76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Drills

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Re: Philly: 76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Dril 

Post#61 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:48 pm

When the 6ers weren't able to land the number 1 pick they should have tried the pick for a more established player. Instead now they have a bunch of mediocre young players slash d-leaguers. MCW probably has reached his ceiling and is better fit coming off the bench with his broken J. I think Noel will be solid. His defensive instincts are very impressive. Him and Embiid are not a good combination because Noel is better served as a center not a PF.
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Re: Philly: 76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Dril 

Post#62 » by goodboy » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:56 pm

He's just on dat der dream bulk.
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Post#63 » by Mik317 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:00 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:When the 6ers weren't able to land the number 1 pick they should have tried the pick for a more established player. Instead now they have a bunch of mediocre young players slash d-leaguers. MCW probably has reached his ceiling and is better fit coming off the bench with his broken J. I think Noel will be solid. His defensive instincts are very impressive. Him and Embiid are not a good combination because Noel is better served as a center not a PF.


That is super short sighted. The rebuild isn't over.

Unless someone was giving up a Star for that pick, trading it for some random starter would be silly. You drafted the best prospect possible and hope to get a star, or a collection of talent to trade for a star...you worry about fit and whatnot after you have that. We don't and we are still looking for him. We tried the band of brothers approach and it didn't work. That would just be repeating history.

Do you know what the definition of insanity is?
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Re: Philly: 76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Dril 

Post#64 » by Laimbeer » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:08 pm

MRxBLACK wrote:Bogus trade rumors.
Toxic locker room.
Embiid weight/work ethic issues.
Screwing AK47 over.

All BS written by the unprofessional Philly media.


So they made this up or you just don't want it reported?
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Post#65 » by MRxBLACK » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:21 pm

Laimbeer wrote:
MRxBLACK wrote:Bogus trade rumors.
Toxic locker room.
Embiid weight/work ethic issues.
Screwing AK47 over.

All BS written by the unprofessional Philly media.


So they made this up or you just don't want it reported?

The writer has proven in the past he has zero credibility. Believe what you want. His job is to feed gullible readers.
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Re: Philly: 76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Dril 

Post#66 » by MartinToVaught » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:24 pm

lakerhater wrote:Sounds like he'll look kind of like Stanley Roberts if he doesn't get his act together

Damn, that's a name I haven't heard in a while. I remember one game when Fat Stanley managed to sprain an ankle while jumping for the opening tip. :lol:
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Post#67 » by Sprewell4Three » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:27 pm

Mik317 wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:When the 6ers weren't able to land the number 1 pick they should have tried the pick for a more established player. Instead now they have a bunch of mediocre young players slash d-leaguers. MCW probably has reached his ceiling and is better fit coming off the bench with his broken J. I think Noel will be solid. His defensive instincts are very impressive. Him and Embiid are not a good combination because Noel is better served as a center not a PF.


That is super short sighted. The rebuild isn't over.

Unless someone was giving up a Star for that pick, trading it for some random starter would be silly. You drafted the best prospect possible and hope to get a star, or a collection of talent to trade for a star...you worry about fit and whatnot after you have that. We don't and we are still looking for him. We tried the band of brothers approach and it didn't work. That would just be repeating history.

Do you know what the definition of insanity is?


Where did I say random starter? 6ers should have done their due diligence and tried to trade the pick for an all-star caliber player or close. This trying to fit young peaces and see which one sticks is stupid. It makes the rebuild even longer.
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Post#68 » by Mik317 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 9:45 pm

Sprewell4Three wrote:
Mik317 wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:When the 6ers weren't able to land the number 1 pick they should have tried the pick for a more established player. Instead now they have a bunch of mediocre young players slash d-leaguers. MCW probably has reached his ceiling and is better fit coming off the bench with his broken J. I think Noel will be solid. His defensive instincts are very impressive. Him and Embiid are not a good combination because Noel is better served as a center not a PF.


That is super short sighted. The rebuild isn't over.

Unless someone was giving up a Star for that pick, trading it for some random starter would be silly. You drafted the best prospect possible and hope to get a star, or a collection of talent to trade for a star...you worry about fit and whatnot after you have that. We don't and we are still looking for him. We tried the band of brothers approach and it didn't work. That would just be repeating history.

Do you know what the definition of insanity is?


Where did I say random starter? 6ers should have done their due diligence and tried to trade the pick for an all-star caliber player or close. This trying to fit young peaces and see which one sticks is stupid. It makes the rebuild even longer.


You make it sound so easy.

Like Hinkie can just call up a team and be like "yo give me this guy for our pick now"..it takes two to tango. I don't think many all star caliber players were on the market and those that were probably wouldn't have been pleased to come here.

and who cares if the rebuild takes longer? That is better than handicapping yourself because you are impatitient. You don't pass on a better player because of fit...especially when your team sucks balls. If all of our prospects are as bad as people seemingly think they are, then who cares about fit..you take the best guy. At 3 Embiid was the best guy (IMO), who cares about Noel...we cross that bridge when we get there..and if wherever we end up in this draft if Mudiday or some big is the best prospect...we deal with the logjam later. Unless you have two players on the same tier but one is a better fit with your current roster...you always go for the better prospect. Every time.

I ,for the record, wasn't super pleased with the draft we just had but I'd be rather upset if Hinkie traded it for some guy who wasn't a star or took a lesser prospect because of fit. Since he's gotten here, he has talked about long term thinking...I don't always agree with it (digging through dleague talent, not bringing in shooters when we need them, stashing errbody, and such) but I respect that he has a plan rather than this reactionary process our past regimes used. I am willing to wait and see how it turns out for better or for worse. I realized that this was going to take a while, there will be bumps, there will be questionable moves and all that...none of that will matter if it works. If we finally get a young star to build around, that will be a mini championship for me. Be it Embiid, Noel, Saric, the guy we draft this year, or the guy we draft in 2016...who knows...until we get that guy I don't care about the process. Just do it.
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Re: Philly: 76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Dril 

Post#69 » by SichtingLives » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:17 pm

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Post#70 » by Illmatic12 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 10:44 pm

OrlandO wrote:titties
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Doesn't look like he's 'ballooned' or anything. Just looks like a guy who hasn't been able to work out.




Sixers fans just ignore the idiotic comments in this thread. When John Wall injured his patella and missed the first half of the 2012-2013 season, he wasn't able to work out and this exact same thread was made on Realgm:

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John Wall Has Gotten FAT



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People saying he lacked work ethic because he had damn near broke his knee cap and couldn't work out.. classic :lol:

The feuding with coaches doesn't sound good if true, he needs to mature in that regard. But I saw him on the sidelines of a game not too long ago, he didn't look anywhere near 300+. He'll lose that wight quickly once he starts moving around and practicing consistently.
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Re: Philly: 76ers Questioning Embiid's Work Ethic & Maturity, Weighs 300 Pounds Now, Feuding With Coaches, Skipping Dril 

Post#72 » by old rem » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:35 pm

majortom71 wrote:Didn't he have to bulk anyway? I'm not sure about 300 pounds but definitely he needed to be come stronger and add muscle which would mean he'd gain weight.
Maybe not a puffy 50 extra pounds?
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Post#73 » by laika » Sun Jan 18, 2015 11:49 pm

It's starting to turn into a worst case scenario for Philly.

MCW sucks. Noel has been truly horrible. Embiid has a lousy work ethic and could still be injury prone. No one else has stepped up at all.
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Post#74 » by Greek » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:01 am

Weight on his age and NBA activity given that he wasnt fat as a teen is not an issue. He can lose it very easily. Heck even me on my 36 with slipped disk i can lose without any real effort easily some pounds given that i used to be an athlete on my teens (not good one but still practicing a lot).

I think that is more mental than anything else. You feel limited, you can't do what you want. As soon as he feels healthy again i bet that it will be a non story
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Post#76 » by Buckeye-NBAFan » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:09 am

laika wrote:It's starting to turn into a worst case scenario for Philly.

MCW sucks. Noel has been truly horrible. Embiid has a lousy work ethic and could still be injury prone. No one else has stepped up at all.


The 76ers have cap space and the 3rd worst record in the league. According to RealGM, that means they're in a better position than most of the playoff teams in the league (playoff team is really just code for treadmill team, aka team with no shot at the #1 pick, aka team that's doing nothing but getting older and worse).
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Post#77 » by Mik317 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 12:10 am

laika wrote:It's starting to turn into a worst case scenario for Philly.

MCW sucks. Noel has been truly horrible. Embiid has a lousy work ethic and could still be injury prone. No one else has stepped up at all.


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Post#78 » by Johnlac1 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:08 am

Johnny Firpo wrote:Well, that does not sound good if true.

I'm a Bucks fan.....we have Larry Sanders. I guess it's only fair some other team has a talented but hardheaded center to deal with.
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Post#79 » by Bubstubbler » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:21 am

Blake Griffin put up 22/12 as a rookie, and Embiid is significantly better. As rookies: Duncan put up 21/12, Hakeem put up 21/12, Robinson put up 24/12, Mourning put up 21/10, and Shaq put up 23/14.

Philly is lacking in stud offensive talent, so Embiid should have plenty of touches next year. He'll probably be (and should be) their #1 option, and be very efficient at it.

He's an all-time-great prospect. He put up historic numbers as a freshman center (only matched by Robinson/Mourning/Hakeem/Ewing/Oden), and yet he's a guy who is actually a far better prospect than his numbers show (since he only started playing organized basketball about 3 years ago and is improving at an astounding rate).

The foul trouble was a non story, since his freshman year was a bizarro year in college basketball due to the change in how fouls were called that year: half the fouls called on him probably wouldn't have been called in previous years, and certainly wouldn't have been called in the NBA.

I remain of the thinking that many of the posters here will poop themselves when they realize how good Embiid actually is. If he's healthy, he's going to take the league by storm: he's got inside moves, good mid-range touch, and a sweet perimeter stroke; good ball handling, good passing, good court vision, and quick thinking ability, plus he's highly coordinated, athletic, long, able to anticipate, has a strong desire to win/dominate, is an extremely fast learner, and has great intuition on defense. The guy's potential is surreal.
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Post#80 » by Mr Loggins » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:38 am

300 lbs should be good for a guy getting stress fractures in his foot

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