2015 Offseason Thread - Datone Suspended For First game

Post #1 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:27 am

Have to try to move on. We have some key free agent decisions. Have to rework Peppers contract. Maybe (hopefully?) a coaching change or two.

We have a tough (on paper) schedule. At least Seattle comes to Lambeau.

We'll be good. Most likely a playoff team.

steger_3434 · Post #2 » by **steger_3434** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:30 am

What's the cap hit on bostik? Get his dumb ass off the team tonight. Delta flies coach back to milwaukee if he wants to try kyak.com

Newz · Post #3 » by **Newz** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:41 am

Get an upgrade at ILB. Hopefully we can retain Peppers, Bulaga, Cobb and Tramon/House. Try to add depth all around the roster and then hope to have another run where we stay healthy most of the year.

I think this team proved tonight that they have the talent to beat anyone... they just completely melted down.

The thing I worry about most is that the team may have a emotional hangover from this and it may impact their play next year.

steger_3434 · Post #4 » by **steger_3434** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:44 am

The problem is we, for the most part, were healthier than we've ever been. I can't see that repeating itself. We blew a huge chance. I'd say Bulaga and Cobb are the priorities and then focus on ilb, d line and wr in the draft.

Dick Dastardly · Post #5 » by **Dick Dastardly** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:08 am

Two concerns are mental hangover and injuries as stated above.

Remove:
-Bostick
-Hawk
-B Jones
-Slocum
-Maybe Capers
-Maybe Masthay
-Flynn

Add:
-ILB in round 1
-TE in draft
-WR in draft or a lower tier FA like Denarius Moore, Meachem,

Keep:
-Peppers
-Bulaga
-Cobb

BUCKnation · Post #6 » by **BUCKnation** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:19 am

I'm glad you bring up Masthay. He has barely been needed this season, but he hasn't been that great. Especially today, lots of line drives that were bailed out by great coverage. His late punt OOB to the 30 didn't help either when it should have been easily pinned within the 20.

Maybe it's time to bring in serious competition for him this offseason.

Dick Dastardly · Post #7 » by **Dick Dastardly** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:21 am

Just think, we may never have to see AJ Hawk get run over by a running back ever again.

th87 · Post #8 » by **th87** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:25 am

I hope the yoga/gummi bear/Australian injury tracking company was the cause of our good health this year.

Post #9 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:27 am

ILB definitely. Mashtay used to be so good. He was crap this year. I'd give him another shot but bring in some camp competition

Post #10 » by **MickeyDavis** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:27 am

Also draft a QB.

jakecronus8 · Post #11 » by **jakecronus8** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:51 am

I can't even think about football right now. I'll check on in a month or so. I don't even think I'll watch the owl.

RRyder823 · Post #12 » by **RRyder823** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:29 am

Needs

1: ILB(both SSILB n WSILB)- pretty sure we're all in the same boat here

2: DL- Either DT or DE but need some more beef up front. Thinkin Raji can help commin back but still look to add a guy.

3: TE- a dynamic pass catching TE is all this offence is missing.

4: OLB- Peppers resturucturing is paramount but still wanna add more pass rushers.

5: CB- Going to have to replace either Tramon or House or maybe both. Looks like a 3-5 round pick in the draft.

6: T- this is a need if Bulaga goes elsewhere. I like Tretter but right now I like him better as depth across the line. If Bulaga leaves this prolly moves up the list.

6 "needs" right now but could be less depending who we retain. Really if we improve the ILB spots and TE through the draft or current player develpment this team will be right back in the thick of it especially if Raji comes back strong

FAH1223 · Post #13 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:10 am

MickeyDavis wrote:ILB definitely. Mashtay used to be so good. He was crap this year. I'd give him another shot but bring in some camp competition

Mashtay was better in the beginning of the year. Then the offense went all those games without him even having to go on the field to punt :lol:

and he's sucked since.

I agree with you on the competition part, he's been good for the Pack. Hope he bounces back like Crosby.

My wishlist is we keep

Cobb
Bulaga
Tramon
Guion
Tolzien

House if possible, if not let him go since he's been injured a lot
Raji on another 1 year deal, we need beef up front and he looked damn good in preseason

Draft

ILB
NT
OL
CB
WR
QB

Restructure Peppers, sign a LB who can cover TEs/RBs. Maybe take a flyer on a WR to replace Boykin as well.

Cut Hawk and Jones.

I think we're close. Our window is open as long as we have another decent draft and the kids from 2012, 2013 and 2014 get better and better and stay healthy.

th87 · Post #14 » by **th87** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:11 am

I want Lacy to lose a little weight.

FAH1223 · Post #15 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:16 am

th87 wrote:I want Lacy to lose a little weight.

Same here. I'd like to see him a bit leaner like Lynch.

th87 · Post #16 » by **th87** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:33 am

FAH1223 wrote:
th87 wrote:I want Lacy to lose a little weight.

Same here. I'd like to see him a bit leaner like Lynch.

I think it'd do wonders. For a big guy, he still goes down easier than expected when he doesn't get going. Lynch doesn't need a lot of space to generate power, and Lacy working on his explosiveness would certainly help that. Plus becoming leaner would give him more of a home run threat.

BUCKSFORLIFE · Post #17 » by **BUCKSFORLIFE** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:34 am

I am not sure why so many people want to give Mike McCarthy a break over and over. He always blows big games for us with his coaching decisions and he did it again on Sunday. You are on the road, a 7 point underdog by the odds makers and you settle for two field goals after getting to gift turnovers in a row? Settling for fg's gave Seattle a moral victory and changed the complexion of the game. If you go for on 4th down and don't make it, you got a anemic offense pinned at the 1/2 yard line. You are likely to get the ball back in great field position anyway. The packers defense was playing great the last few weeks so why not gamble there? Because Mike McCarthy coaches to not lose instead of coaching to win. That strategy will never win you big playoff games.

We have seen this same stuff from him before. He always get out coached in big games. Yeah it is nice to make playoffs each year, but Green Bay is Titletown USA or at least it was.

Here some food for thought. Mike McCarthy has had arguably the best QB in football every year he has coached here (not counting Rodgers first season as a starter). What have we won? One Superbowl in 9 years. People forget, the year we won the Superbowl we were 10-6 during the regular season and if the NY Giants idiot punter does not punt the ball to Leshon Jackson on the last play of the game, the Giants win and we are out of the playoffs. Fortunately for Packers fans, we got in and Aaron Rodgers carried us to a Superbowl victory.

What would be this teams record over the past 9 years with McCarthy coaching if we had an average QB like Matt Ryan or Mathew Stafford, or Jay Cutler. We would for surely be a below .500 team and people would be in up in arms. Mcarthy has a nice regular season winning percentage only because he has been blessed with talented receivers and elite QB's. Without those he is just a bum period. Quite frankly we be better of if Aaron Rodgers did all the of play calling.

Mike McCarthy's playoff record is 7-6. This is awful by anyone's standards. How is it going to change next year? Remember how many times his terrible clock management and terrible challenges costed us big games? How many times have we seen him try to sit on a lead only to have a heart breaking loss afterward? How many times do we have to listen to his ridiculous press conferences where never takes responsibility as a coach? How would you like to Aaron Rodgers knowing he should have had at least two more Superbowl appearances by now? What about the fact he was the first coach to not make it to the Superbowl after a 15-1 season?

Friends it's time for a change. We can't waste the rest of Aaron Rodger's career with this idiot as the coach no matter how nice his demeanor is. It's very unlikely our next young QB will as good as our last two were. It's time for a change so Green Bay can now be title town again. God Bless you all and the Packers.

FAH1223 · Post #18 » by **FAH1223** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:42 am

BUCKSFORLIFE wrote:I am not sure why so many people want to give Mike McCarthy a break over and over. He always blows big games for us with his coaching decisions and he did it again on Sunday. You are on the road, a 7 point underdog by the odds makers and you settle for two field goals after getting to gift turnovers in a row? Settling for fg's gave Seattle a moral victory and changed the complexion of the game. If you go for on 4th down and don't make it, you got a anemic offense pinned at the 1/2 yard line. You are likely to get the ball back in great field position anyway. The packers defense was playing great the last few weeks so why not gamble there? Because Mike McCarthy coaches to not lose instead of coaching to win. That strategy will never win you big playoff games.

We have seen this same stuff from him before. He always get out coached in big games. Yeah it is nice to make playoffs each year, but Green Bay is Titletown USA or at least it was.

Here some food for thought. Mike McCarthy has had arguably the best QB in football every year he has coached here (not counting Rodgers rookie campaign). What have we won? One Superbowl in 9 years. People forget, the year we won the Superbowl we were 9-7 during the regular season and if the NY Giants idiot punter does not punt the ball to Leshon Jackson on the last play of the game, the Giants win and we are out of the playoffs. Fortunately for Packers fans, we got in and Aaron Rodgers carried us to a Superbowl victory.

What would be this teams record over the past 9 years with McCarthy coaching if we had an average QB like Matt Ryan or Mathew Stafford, or Jay Cutler. We would for surely be a below .500 team and people would be in up in arms. Mcarthy has a nice regular season winning percentage only because he has been blessed with talented receivers and elite QB's. Without those he is just a bum period. Quite frankly we be better of if Aaron Rodgers did all the of play calling.

Mike McCarthy's playoff record is 7-6. This is awful by anyone's standards. How is it going to change next year? Remember how many times his terrible clock management and terrible challenges costed us big games? How many times have we seen him try to sit on a lead only to have a heart breaking loss afterward? How many times do we have to listen to his ridiculous press conferences where never takes responsibility as a coach? How would you like to Aaron Rodgers knowing he should have had at least two more Superbowl appearances by now? What about the fact he was the first coach to not make it to the Superbowl after a 15-1 season?

Friends it's time for a change. We can't waste the rest of Aaron Rodger's career with this idiot as the coach no matter how nice his demeanor is. It's very unlikely our next young QB will as good as our last two were. It's time for a change so Green Bay can now be title town again. God Bless you all and the Packers.

McCarthy wasn't in GB for Rodgers rookie season. He came in 2006.

And The Super Bowl 45 Packers were 10-6 to finish the regular season. Yeah, they needed Desean Jackson but the Packers still had to beat the same Giants in Week 16 and then the Bears in Week 17 just to get in.

And MM won't be fired. The Packers don't operate that way.

I think MM needs to re-invent himself and swallow his pride. Let someone else call the plays or be consistently aggressive. He was aggressive playcalling last week. He was aggressive in the Lions game.

th87 · Post #19 » by **th87** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:53 am

BUCKSFORLIFE wrote:I am not sure why so many people want to give Mike McCarthy a break over and over. He always blows big games for us with his coaching decisions and he did it again on Sunday. You are on the road, a 7 point underdog by the odds makers and you settle for two field goals after getting to gift turnovers in a row? Settling for fg's gave Seattle a moral victory and changed the complexion of the game. If you go for on 4th down and don't make it, you got a anemic offense pinned at the 1/2 yard line. You are likely to get the ball back in great field position anyway. The packers defense was playing great the last few weeks so why not gamble there? Because Mike McCarthy coaches to not lose instead of coaching to win. That strategy will never win you big playoff games.

We have seen this same stuff from him before. He always get out coached in big games. Yeah it is nice to make playoffs each year, but Green Bay is Titletown USA or at least it was.

Here some food for thought. Mike McCarthy has had arguably the best QB in football every year he has coached here (not counting Rodgers rookie campaign). What have we won? One Superbowl in 9 years. People forget, the year we won the Superbowl we were 9-7 during the regular season and if the NY Giants idiot punter does not punt the ball to Leshon Jackson on the last play of the game, the Giants win and we are out of the playoffs. Fortunately for Packers fans, we got in and Aaron Rodgers carried us to a Superbowl victory.

What would be this teams record over the past 9 years with McCarthy coaching if we had an average QB like Matt Ryan or Mathew Stafford, or Jay Cutler. We would for surely be a below .500 team and people would be in up in arms. Mcarthy has a nice regular season winning percentage only because he has been blessed with talented receivers and elite QB's. Without those he is just a bum period. Quite frankly we be better of if Aaron Rodgers did all the of play calling.

Mike McCarthy's playoff record is 7-6. This is awful by anyone's standards. How is it going to change next year? Remember how many times his terrible clock management and terrible challenges costed us big games? How many times have we seen him try to sit on a lead only to have a heart breaking loss afterward? How many times do we have to listen to his ridiculous press conferences where never takes responsibility as a coach? How would you like to Aaron Rodgers knowing he should have had at least two more Superbowl appearances by now? What about the fact he was the first coach to not make it to the Superbowl after a 15-1 season?

Friends it's time for a change. We can't waste the rest of Aaron Rodger's career with this idiot as the coach no matter how nice his demeanor is. It's very unlikely our next young QB will as good as our last two were. It's time for a change so Green Bay can now be title town again. God Bless you all and the Packers.

Rodgers has the ability to check out of plays too. It's on him as well.

HKPackFan · Post #20 » by **HKPackFan** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:14 am

FAH1223 wrote:
BUCKSFORLIFE wrote:I am not sure why so many people want to give Mike McCarthy a break over and over. He always blows big games for us with his coaching decisions and he did it again on Sunday. You are on the road, a 7 point underdog by the odds makers and you settle for two field goals after getting to gift turnovers in a row? Settling for fg's gave Seattle a moral victory and changed the complexion of the game. If you go for on 4th down and don't make it, you got a anemic offense pinned at the 1/2 yard line. You are likely to get the ball back in great field position anyway. The packers defense was playing great the last few weeks so why not gamble there? Because Mike McCarthy coaches to not lose instead of coaching to win. That strategy will never win you big playoff games.

We have seen this same stuff from him before. He always get out coached in big games. Yeah it is nice to make playoffs each year, but Green Bay is Titletown USA or at least it was.

Here some food for thought. Mike McCarthy has had arguably the best QB in football every year he has coached here (not counting Rodgers rookie campaign). What have we won? One Superbowl in 9 years. People forget, the year we won the Superbowl we were 9-7 during the regular season and if the NY Giants idiot punter does not punt the ball to Leshon Jackson on the last play of the game, the Giants win and we are out of the playoffs. Fortunately for Packers fans, we got in and Aaron Rodgers carried us to a Superbowl victory.

What would be this teams record over the past 9 years with McCarthy coaching if we had an average QB like Matt Ryan or Mathew Stafford, or Jay Cutler. We would for surely be a below .500 team and people would be in up in arms. Mcarthy has a nice regular season winning percentage only because he has been blessed with talented receivers and elite QB's. Without those he is just a bum period. Quite frankly we be better of if Aaron Rodgers did all the of play calling.

Mike McCarthy's playoff record is 7-6. This is awful by anyone's standards. How is it going to change next year? Remember how many times his terrible clock management and terrible challenges costed us big games? How many times have we seen him try to sit on a lead only to have a heart breaking loss afterward? How many times do we have to listen to his ridiculous press conferences where never takes responsibility as a coach? How would you like to Aaron Rodgers knowing he should have had at least two more Superbowl appearances by now? What about the fact he was the first coach to not make it to the Superbowl after a 15-1 season?

Friends it's time for a change. We can't waste the rest of Aaron Rodger's career with this idiot as the coach no matter how nice his demeanor is. It's very unlikely our next young QB will as good as our last two were. It's time for a change so Green Bay can now be title town again. God Bless you all and the Packers.

McCarthy wasn't in GB for Rodgers rookie season. He came in 2006.

And The Super Bowl 45 Packers were 10-6 to finish the regular season. Yeah, they needed Desean Jackson but the Packers still had to beat the same Giants in Week 16 and then the Bears in Week 17 just to get in.

And MM won't be fired. The Packers don't operate that way.

I think MM needs to re-invent himself and swallow his pride. Let someone else call the plays or be consistently aggressive. He was aggressive playcalling last week. He was aggressive in the Lions game.

Yes he was and that's why it surprised me when his playing not to lose ways showed up again, because he sure as heck didn't call the games that way in the last couple of weeks.

If they fire any coach I'm guessing it could be Slocum. He did not have his team ready for a fake FG, they were caught with their pants down. I'm not sure who to blame on the Onsides kick besides the individual player.. Is that Bostick trying to be a hero and ignoring his coach? Is that a sign the coach couldn't reach the team and they are not disciplined?

Besides those two gaffes we had a zillion blocks this year. I could see him getting being the fall guy, but I don't see Capers getting fired for having his team destroy Seattle for most of the game. The D finally picked up their game, and was basically winning the game for the Packers. They gifted them 4 TO's and didn't give up a TD until the last 2 minutes of the 4th quarter. You'd think one of the best offenses in the league with the MVP could do a better job with that kind of defensive performance. Capers D was trending upwards since the bye, and played almost their most dominant game. I don't think that justifies firing.

I don't see MM getting fired and starting all over again with a new coach and then all new staff and new system and spending a few years to put it in place. The Packers just extended MM and TT, they don't make knee jerk reactions.