Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[KqWIN]

Can Kanter play in the role Zaza is playing right now (elbow, high post facilitator)? Can he space the floor at all?

Kanter is truly a bully in the paint. He's a big body with pretty good footwork. Amazing footwork when you consider the fact that he's only been playing since he was 15 or 16. What makes him such an intriguing young player, however, is his ability to shoot the ball. He's got great touch for a big and is a very good standstill jump shooter. He's been encouraged to shoot 3 pointers this season, which he has done with moderate success. So yes, he can space the floor. As far as facilitating, almost non existent.

[ChuckBros4Life]

Definitely would enjoy Kanter on this Bucks team. Still very young with many good years ahead of him. Not only is he a young asset, but he helps us win games this year. It's nice when a win now move still qualifies for the building for the future mantra.

[ampd]

Can Kanter play in the role Zaza is playing right now (elbow, high post facilitator)? Can he space the floor at all?

Kanter is truly a bully in the paint. He's a big body with pretty good footwork. Amazing footwork when you consider the fact that he's only been playing since he was 15 or 16. What makes him such an intriguing young player, however, is his ability to shoot the ball. He's got great touch for a big and is a very good standstill jump shooter. He's been encouraged to shoot 3 pointers this season, which he has done with moderate success. So yes, he can space the floor. As far as facilitating, almost non existent.

Thats pretty much what I thought, but I haven't had a chance to watch many Jazz games this season.

I'd be ok with bringing him on, although paying him in the off season scares me. If we can play decent D with Zaza at C, we can do it with anyone. Whether we can win at an elite level playing our gimmicky defense, or if it works in the playoffs is a different question though.

Considering the alternative is probably Greg Monroe as far as free agents or trades go, its not like we have an array of future all stars. Maybe Monroe fits a little better with us, but with Kanter we'd be able to match. It's a tough call.

[Baddy Chuck]

I'd just wait on either and offer what we think they're worth if we wanted them.

[Giannis Parker]

Right. Which explains the Nate for Kenyon swap.

You're blind if you don't think our goal is to win now.

Would have preferred to keep Nate but neither of them are assets. Moot point.

But it was definitely a 'win now' move. Not sure how he can say winning now isn't our goal.

The move was to help with injuries short term, use the open roster space long term, that is not a win now move....

[Giannis Parker]

What board insiders? I think you are being taken for a ride sir.

Well, this is from one of your forum "members".....guess credibility isn't an issues here, perhaps you are correct though. It has been a prevalent topic here, so gues I'm not alone.

Based on our board insiders

I wouldn't take too much stock in that. We had one very legit board insider but has soon moved on with new ownership. There are a few posters who claim to have some insider information but nothing credible has come from it yet. Not saying they aren't connected, but some of them are new here and need to establish themselves in my eyes a bit more.

Me and Wich told you the Bucks, Kings, and Nuggets were having discussions, showed you the pieces being tossed around, and Kyler confirmed the Bucks were sniffing. Not sure what was inaccurate about anything we shared. The pieces to trades change in seconds, what we heard appears to be the Bucks hanging tight making sure they got extra value than being sent out, it is still a month from the deadline, no reason to give in so early.

[Giannis Parker]

Kyler is clearly pulling things out of his hat in those tweets, getting the #8 pick for Ersan would be a deal the Bucks take, but the Kings would force the Bucks to eat Thompson/Landry as well.

[paulpressey25]

Kyler is clearly pulling things out of his hat in those tweets, getting the #8 pick for Ersan would be a deal the Bucks take, but the Kings would force the Bucks to eat Thompson/Landry as well.

Both Landry and Thompson are owed $12 million additional after this year. I think everyone on this board would easily take back one of those guys for Stauskas.

Remember, Ersan is owed another $8 million next year as well that we shed.

The deal becomes losing Ersan for Stauskas and $4mm of additional salary for a PF who likely contributes about as much as Ersan would in that time period.

No brainer.

[Wisky4life]

I think we just need to do 1 trade. I think getting rid of Ersan because he hasn't played a lot recently would be great for us,wouldn't hurt chemistry too much and especially if we can actually get something for him.

It is a stretch but if you could package Ersan and Larry and actually receive some positive value, I would take that deal instantly. I like Larry but it just isn't worth our time and money with him.

[mlloyd10]

Kyler is clearly pulling things out of his hat in those tweets, getting the #8 pick for Ersan would be a deal the Bucks take, but the Kings would force the Bucks to eat Thompson/Landry as well.

Both Landry and Thompson are owed $12 million additional after this year. I think everyone on this board would easily take back one of those guys for Stauskas.

Remember, Ersan is owed another $8 million next year as well that we shed.

The deal becomes losing Ersan for Stauskas and $4mm of additional salary for a PF who likely contributes about as much as Ersan would in that time period.

No brainer.

Pretty sure I saw that the 2016-2017 season for Thompson is only guaranteed for 2.5 mil

[Giannis Parker]

I think we just need to do 1 trade. I think getting rid of Ersan because he hasn't played a lot recently would be great for us,wouldn't hurt chemistry too much and especially if we can actually get something for him.

It is a stretch but if you could package Ersan and Larry and actually receive some positive value, I would take that deal instantly. I like Larry but it just isn't worth our time and money with him.

Personal opinion here,

If we could trade Ersan and Larry for an 11th man, I would be all over it. Time to move on....

[Giannis Parker]

Pretty sure I saw that the 2016-2017 season for Thompson is only guaranteed for 2.5 mil

Believe 2.6m, but you are correct, it is not a full guarantee.

Thompson is the type of player I would be targeting right now, someone who can hold the fort down at Center and PF off the bench, and when he plays, Thompson is a pure junkyard type, something we lack.

[mlloyd10]

Pretty sure I saw that the 2016-2017 season for Thompson is only guaranteed for 2.5 mil

Believe 2.6m, but you are correct, it is not a full guarantee.

Thompson is the type of player I would be targeting right now, someone who can hold the fort down at Center and PF off the bench, and when he plays, Thompson is a pure junkyard type, something we lack.

The 22/23 game he had on Saturday was nice

[Ron Swanson]

Clearing salary should be our primary goal at the deadline. Whether it results in more or less "wins" is irrelevant. If we can pick up a young prospect in the process then all the better.

My issue has always been that too many people are advocating "tank moves" as opposed to "smart financial" moves.

[Swan Vox]

Clearing salary should be our primary goal at the deadline. Whether it results in more or less "wins" is irrelevant. If we can pick up a young prospect in the process then all the better.

My issue has always been that too many people are advocating "tank moves" as opposed to "smart financial" moves.

I like this line of thinking. The fact of the matter is: we have some decisions to make on folks like Knight, Henson & Middleton. We need to determine whether they are part of our future or not. These "assets" can become dead weight very quickly if the wrong choice is made. I like the idea of resetting the clock in a few cases. (Hence a move like Stauskas)

[Matches Malone]

Me and Wich told you the Bucks, Kings, and Nuggets were having discussions, showed you the pieces being tossed around, and Kyler confirmed the Bucks were sniffing. Not sure what was inaccurate about anything we shared. The pieces to trades change in seconds, what we heard appears to be the Bucks hanging tight making sure they got extra value than being sent out, it is still a month from the deadline, no reason to give in so early.

Like I said, it has nothing to do with you guys per say. I'm sure you are connected. I'm just going to wait and see what happens before I get my hopes up about trades. I guess we were spoiled with the last insider because he gave us some good info before it happened. You very well could be doing the same, but since you are new here, I choose to wait and see how it plays out before I get too excited. Nothing personal.

[mcfromage]

Seems possible that teams are waiting to see if Ersan will round back into form after being out awhile and putting up a stinker in London. If he comes out playing well the next few games, knock wood he does, then hopefully we can get something done.

[Giannis Parker]

Me and Wich told you the Bucks, Kings, and Nuggets were having discussions, showed you the pieces being tossed around, and Kyler confirmed the Bucks were sniffing. Not sure what was inaccurate about anything we shared. The pieces to trades change in seconds, what we heard appears to be the Bucks hanging tight making sure they got extra value than being sent out, it is still a month from the deadline, no reason to give in so early.

Like I said, it has nothing to do with you guys per say. I'm sure you are connected. I'm just going to wait and see what happens before I get my hopes up about trades. I guess we were spoiled with the last insider because he gave us some good info before it happened. You very well could be doing the same, but since you are new here, I choose to wait and see how it plays out before I get too excited. Nothing personal.

Yeah, BP was a good guy, I had conversation with him here and there and his posts on here over the last 3 years were very insightful. I do not have anywhere near the connections he has, maybe someday though

[Giannis Parker]

Seems possible that teams are waiting to see if Ersan will round back into form after being out awhile and putting up a stinker in London. If he comes out playing well the next few games, knock wood he does, then hopefully we can get something done.

Yeah, I get the feeling personally that teams just want to wait, see what unfolds as the deadline approaches. Unlike Boston, most teams are only looking to make one or two moves, waiting is an option, Boston had to act now and take less because of it, but Danny has a vision, and that is all that matters.

[skywalker33]

I wonder if there's any package enticing enough for Bulls to consider trading us Nikola Mirotic for. Another team would probably have to be in the mix.

We would have to give up waay more than anyone here would want.

Just for kicks, think this would get it done.

Bucks get: Mirotic, E'Twaun Moore, Cameron Bairstow
Bulls get: Aaron Afflalo, Wilson Chandler, John Henson, Bucks 1st (2015)
Nuggets get: Mike Dunleavy, Tony Snell, Johnny O'Bryant, Bulls first (2015)

Could easily see MIL being kicked out of this trade if Mirotic was available. Denver could easily match or beat what MIL's putting in and get the best player in this trade.