#BringBacktheBiz - The Bismack Biyombo Thread

[Braggins]

I posted this in the game thread but felt it probably should be put here as well:




[tweet]https://twitter.com/ZachLowe_NBA/status/489864687543390208[/tweet]
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Again, he is just repeating a rumor. He didn't give any evidence or reason why people don't believe his age. If Lowe had cited a source claiming this and gave some sort of explanation or reasoning it would maybe mean something. Like I said before, he was given a bone age test that confirmed his age within one year while in Spain. It also wasn't like he was some jungle dwelling tribesman from Africa. I don't deny that many people believe that he is older, but until someone gives any kind of reason or evidence other than people thinking he is older because he is from Africa and was stronger and more athletic than most kids his age (true for the majority of players) when he came to the US then this means nothing.

Good point. I am going to take Lowe's approach from now on and just go with Lebron is 35. There is no way he could have been that big at 18 he must have been 23. They doctored his birth certificate and hid him in the basement for a few years when he was little. It was all part of the grand plan to make an unstoppable force in the NBA. Such a load that just because a kid is from Africa or somewhere else we have to doubt everything they say.

And look at his hairline. It was receding noticeably already when he was allegedly 21-22. Check out the edit for my last post. Greg Oden is obviously in his 40's by now.

[BeesWax]

Again, he is just repeating a rumor. He didn't give any evidence or reason why people don't believe his age. If Lowe had cited a source claiming this and gave some sort of explanation or reasoning it would maybe mean something. Like I said before, he was given a bone age test that confirmed his age within one year while in Spain. It also wasn't like he was some jungle dwelling tribesman from Africa. I don't deny that many people believe that he is older, but until someone gives any kind of reason or evidence other than people thinking he is older because he is from Africa and was stronger and more athletic than most kids his age (true for the majority of players) when he came to the US then this means nothing.

Good point. I am going to take Lowe's approach from now on and just go with Lebron is 35. There is no way he could have been that big at 18 he must have been 23. They doctored his birth certificate and hid him in the basement for a few years when he was little. It was all part of the grand plan to make an unstoppable force in the NBA. Such a load that just because a kid is from Africa or somewhere else we have to doubt everything they say.

And look at his hairline. It was receding noticeably already when he was allegedly 21-22. Check out the edit for my last post. Greg Oden is obviously in his 40's by now.

Shoot Oden looked mid 40's in high school.

[Braggins]

Good point. I am going to take Lowe's approach from now on and just go with Lebron is 35. There is no way he could have been that big at 18 he must have been 23. They doctored his birth certificate and hid him in the basement for a few years when he was little. It was all part of the grand plan to make an unstoppable force in the NBA. Such a load that just because a kid is from Africa or somewhere else we have to doubt everything they say.

And look at his hairline. It was receding noticeably already when he was allegedly 21-22. Check out the edit for my last post. Greg Oden is obviously in his 40's by now.

Shoot Oden looked mid 40's in high school.

I seriously forgot how freakishly old he looked even in high school til I looked up that picture. He seriously looks like hes at least in his late 20s or early 30s in that Ohio State picture when he was 18/19.

[BeesWax]

And look at his hairline. It was receding noticeably already when he was allegedly 21-22. Check out the edit for my last post. Greg Oden is obviously in his 40's by now.

Shoot Oden looked mid 40's in high school.

I seriously forgot how freakishly old he looked even in high school til I looked up that picture. He seriously looks like hes at least in his late 20s or early 30s in that Ohio State picture when he was 18/19.

Mid 20s



18

I mean come on now.

[Braggins]

Grantland: Because of your size, your maturity, and your leadership abilities, there’s been some argument about your actual age. Some people have suggested that you might be as old as 23 to 26, which could potentially have an effect on where you’d be picked in the draft. How old are you?

Biyombo: This is a question I have faced from when I first came to Spain. Nobody knows about me, so people are quickly like, “Who is Bismack? Who is this guy? Where did he come from?” Now, some people ask me if I can look them in the eye and say I’m really 18. I can look anyone in the eye and tell them that. If they want to believe me, they can believe me, and if they don’t want to believe me, they don’t have to. I’m not President Obama, I’m not gonna hold up my birth certificate in public to show to the world. But we show it to the teams who are looking at me, and we show them X-rays and passports and other documents that prove to them my age.


This was from an article about the draft the year he came out.

"Many NBA scouts and executives believe Bismack Biyombo is older than his listed age of 18.

Coaches who have worked with Biyombo earlier in his career while he was still in Congo think he's “no older than 20 at most,” while Biyombo's agent, Igor Crespo, has evidence that proves Biyombo is even younger.

Crespo claims he took Biyombo to a specialist to conduct a bone age study immediately upon his arrival in Spain. The study involves taking x-rays of an adolescent's wrist and hand to see if his growth plates are still open. Because the cartilage in Biyombo's hand hadn't fused at that point, the specialist came to the conclusion that he could be 16 or 17 at most, but not 18, when growth plates are expected to be closed.

This obviously rules out the possibility of Biyombo being five to eight years older than he's listed, as the wild speculation we've seen recently on the Internet indicates. Crespo says he will willingly share these x-rays with any NBA team that requests them."

[Hornet Mania]

So the wild speculation suggests Biz was 25 at the draft cuz Africa, but the scientific evidence suggested he was between 16-18 at draft time because of growth plate x-rays. Not sure which of those two claims are more valid. I mean, they seem equally reasonable, right guys? Cho is a moron for picking a guy based on potential who's already 30. Perhaps Biz can't catch a basketball because of arthritis?

It's a well-known fact that not a single African person has ever been honest about their age. Glad NBA executives aren't fooled by the truthiness of x-rays and/or official documents.

[JDR720]

Biz is at least 50 in dog years i mean look at him

[tweet]https://twitter.com/bismackbiyombo0/status/507303582119780352[/tweet]

[JDR720]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=769KAITG6Fo[/youtube]

[Hornet Mania]

The fact Biz does Crossfit is proof enough for me he's in his early 20s, isn't that what all the hip young kids are doing these days?

If he were an old man he'd be grumbling about how he doesn't need any fancy shmancy mumbo jumbo to be in shape. All the whipper snappers should knock over trees with their bare hands or run up and down a steep hill carrying 50lb bags of sand like back in his day. Afterwards you'd take your best gal out to the malt shop for a few sliders, just a nickel apiece! Times were simpler then, but they got by just fine.

[thruthefire]

I appreciate Lowe pointing out what NBA people think, but if you're going to claim someone is "almost certainly older than his listed age," you need to be able to back it up with some real evidence.

[HornetJail]

Biz is at least 50 in dog years i mean look at him

That would make Biz about 7 in human year. That's a built 2nd grader

[TheKingofSting]

Everyone knows Biz is 55.

[Olajuwon34]

Biz is now averaging 10.8 points, 11.8 rebounds (6.2 offensive!) and 2.2 blocks over his last 5 games. All of this in only 26.8 minutes per game. This seems to me by far the best stretch of his career! Even I didn't think he would turn the corner this hard! Our defense has the potential to be pretty special going forward if we can keep our young core intact!

[Kabookalu]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1zPi_arxIY[/youtube]

[LamarMatic7]

random fact of the day:

Biz and Maxiell have played together for 39 minutes and have a net rating of 84.5 - 120.6 in them.

not saying that this is representative of anything and not concluding anything by it, but an interesting fact concerning this board's popular wish of playing Biz besides Al.

[Eoghan]

Again I'm not saying BDave is wrong cause I don't know. But in Biz's four year career he's never had a game where he's had more than 2 steals, and from eyeballing game logs he's only had like seven or eight games where he's had that many.

He hasn't had a game with two steals since March of 2013. I was a little shocked to learn that.

Hes wrong.

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooope. Biz has always been a vocal leader and a terror on defense.

When he's not rotating to block or alter shots around the rim, Biyombo does a good job in man-to-man settings as well. He shows surprisingly strong fundamentals and is active in talking to his teammates. His wingspan is extremely bothersome here too. He can contest shots from great distances and he makes it difficult to get good looks, He's a real nuisance with his ability to reach out and poke balls away from behind as well.

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz3PbrF7kPb
http://www.draftexpress.com

* Vocal leader; very mature for his age

http://www.nba.com/draft/2011/prospects/bismack-biyombo/

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wm0rf9c7PQ[/youtube]
Watch the very first play on this clip (watch it all actually, it reminds you why he was such an intriguing prospect), he used to do this quite a bit his first two seasons. I'm not saying he was like Noel or anything but he definitely used to be a lot peskier before he got dog-housed for being foul-prone.

[TheKingofSting]

http://www.nba.com/hornets/bismack-biyo ... w-01/21/15

Enjoy!

[Braggins]

Obviously his leadership and maturity prove that he was 26 when he was drafted. I love how when an American prospect is shows these traits they are praised for having them at such a young age, whereas with Biz it apparently just means hes really an old man. In the Grantland interview I posted an excerpt from they specifically cite his maturity and leadership qualities as reasons why people doubt his age.

[JDR720]

need a new thread title to reflect Bismacks old age

[Radu_Hornets]

Otto Von Bismack - The Biyombo Thread.

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_von_Bismarck