Terrence Ross has been leaving practice first

[alevirfe]

Everyone who is saying Ross was a bad pick.. should we have picked Rivers or Lamb instead then? SMH

Not sure if serious..............

Is this your first time on the Raps board?

Not being serious at all.. Wasn't a great draft after the 8th pick

Still not sure if you're trolling but I'll bite... Drummond?

[Matty]

Lol... Witch hunt continues... Derozan just shot 0-9. Just goes to show all his hard work paying off.

LOL the site would have shut-downed if Ross had a 0-9 night. But because DeRozan spends more time in the gym like a good boy and plays on 2k less we should excuse him for having a crap night. Keep in mind DD is paid to score.

So one bad game is the same as weeks of bad games?

That was not the first night DeRozan went 0 for something this season. Prior to his injury he barely had any good games.

[whysoserious]

That was not the first night DeRozan went 0 for something this season. Prior to his injury he barely had any good games.

Actually it was the first game he's gone 0 for something this season. The Dallas game doesn't really count since he got hurt in that game and he's had two other bad games prior to injury against Milwaukee and Chicago.

And barely had any good games? LMAO. Clearly you're not watching.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... ar-derozan

He's had plenty of good and great performances, mixed in with his usual average. Whereas Ross was playing like crap for the better part of a month almost now. Not even close to comparable and there was no reason to bring DD in to the conversation here.

[PT416]

T Ross is a beta male and he's probably going through the money phase due to not having a strong enough mind. He'll grow from this but it's gonna take long. Athletes don't have that kind of time, they need to keep putting the work in consistently.

[Death Knight]

I listened to the same radio conversation, and it was noted that Lowry is also one of those who leaves early. Any wonder why his shot has been so awful since the new year? Sid excused it as Lowry being allowed to do so because he's freakin Kyle Lowry, whereas Ross is just Terrence Ross and needs to work harder on his game. Obviously I disagree with that. Lowry should be working even harder to maintain his all start status that he established earlier in the season. He has played like a scrub the entire January.

[Matty]

That was not the first night DeRozan went 0 for something this season. Prior to his injury he barely had any good games.

Actually it was the first game he's gone 0 for something this season. The Dallas game doesn't really count since he got hurt in that game and he's had two other bad games prior to injury against Milwaukee and Chicago.

And barely had any good games? LMAO. Clearly you're not watching.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... ar-derozan

He's had plenty of good and great performances, mixed in with his usual average. Whereas Ross was playing like crap for the better part of a month almost now. Not even close to comparable and there was no reason to bring DD in to the conversation here.

Ross is not suppose to be as good as DeRozan, that's the point. You're equating the 2 players as if their in the same tier. We brought up Derozan because he's the star on the team that should perform every night, not Ross. Blaming our recent losses on a role player is looking to deflect the blame off our main scorer.

[whysoserious]

Ross is not suppose to be as good as DeRozan, that's the point. You're equating the 2 players as if their in the same tier. We brought up Derozan because he's the star on the team that should perform every night, not Ross. Blaming our recent losses on a role player is looking to deflect the blame off our main scorer.

Our main scorer has been back for four games coming off injury and prior to that was contributing well enough on the whole to the winning.

This is actually hilarious, the losing started before DD came back and Ross had an opportunity to step up and failed. Now that he's being called out for poor performance, which even for a role player has been horrible of late (minus the last game he finally stepped up) and you're blaming DD. LMAO. Keep shifting attention away from your boy.

[wow09]

I listened to the same radio conversation, and it was noted that Lowry is also one of those who leaves early. Any wonder why his shot has been so awful since the new year? Sid excused it as Lowry being allowed to do so because he's freakin Kyle Lowry, whereas Ross is just Terrence Ross and needs to work harder on his game. Obviously I disagree with that. Lowry should be working even harder to maintain his all start status that he established earlier in the season. He has played like a scrub the entire January.

Lowry has played like a scrub? What? A scrub really?

Come on dude.

[Matty]

Ross is not suppose to be as good as DeRozan, that's the point. You're equating the 2 players as if their in the same tier. We brought up Derozan because he's the star on the team that should perform every night, not Ross. Blaming our recent losses on a role player is looking to deflect the blame off our main scorer.

Our main scorer has been back for four games coming off injury and prior to that was contributing well enough on the whole to the winning.

This is actually hilarious, the losing started before DD came back and Ross had an opportunity to step up and failed. Now that he's being called out for poor performance, which even for a role player has been horrible of late (minus the last game he finally stepped up) and you're blaming DD. LMAO. Keep shifting attention away from your boy.

Averaged 14 and 5 in the 15 game stretch before the losing streak started in GS, afterwards everyone including Lowry struggled. But we only seem to highlight Ross' struggles because in typical RealGM fashion we need someone to be the Bargnani symbol on this team.

[whysoserious]

Averaged 14 and 5 in the 15 game stretch before the losing streak started in GS, afterwards everyone including Lowry struggled. But we only seem to highlight Ross' struggles because in typical RealGM fashion we need someone to be the Bargnani symbol on this team.

So I ask again, why was DD even brought in to the conversation?

And there's been several people that questioned Lowry but while he's struggled, he's also still contributed at different areas of the game. Ross has been atrocious. No offense and all season his defense has been average to bad even early on with better offensive numbers. Just because others have struggled at various times, doesn't excuse Ross' performance or the ability to discuss him.

[kirkwood]

Maybe he is leaving early for treatment


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[Matty]

Averaged 14 and 5 in the 15 game stretch before the losing streak started in GS, afterwards everyone including Lowry struggled. But we only seem to highlight Ross' struggles because in typical RealGM fashion we need someone to be the Bargnani symbol on this team.

So I ask again, why was DD even brought in to the conversation?

And there's been several people that questioned Lowry but while he's struggled, he's also still contributed at different areas of the game. Ross has been atrocious. No offense and all season his defense has been average to bad even early on with better offensive numbers. Just because others have struggled at various times, doesn't excuse Ross' performance or the ability to discuss him.

DeRozan went 0-9 last night and was benched in the last part of the game, what is their not to discuss? He's been sub-par all season. 40.6% shooting is no where near efficient for an all-star. My expectations of him are much greater than Ross who is where he should be in his current stage of development, unless you think Ross is going to be an All-star on this team, in which case you need to reevaluate your expectations of him.

[Da1RealRapsFan]

I love that the same posters whining for tross playing time saying he just needs minutes/opportunities/be the go to scorer/he's a natural scorer (despite not driving at all) are the same ones who turned on him and are bashing him now saying we should have picked Drummond. As usual the most vocal are usually the ones with the stupidest opinions. Look at religious fundamentalists.... Vocal minority.


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[GreatWhiteStiff]

I heard Tross aint even stretch doe....doeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

[whysoserious]

DeRozan went 0-9 last night and was benched in the last part of the game, what is their not to discuss? He's been sub-par all season. 40.6% shooting is no where near efficient for an all-star. My expectations of him are much greater than Ross who is where he should be in his current stage of development, unless you think Ross is going to be an All-star on this team, in which case you need to reevaluate your expectations of him.

Derozan has had a few bad games, last night being one of them. But to call him out coming back from injury while defending Ross seems a bit ridiculous. This thread was about Ross and his struggles and his poor play. What the heck does DD's performance have to do with Ross.

Ross has been worse for a longer an consecutive stretch. I'm not here defending DD, just the fact that you brought him up to justify and defend Ross. It has no bearing on the discussion about Ross.

And while DD's shooting has been down, he's also had great games for us during our winning, he also does other things like get to the line and his defense has been better this season. What does Ross provide cause his D has been pretty bad all year and then the recent longer stretch of poor offensive performances.

I never said Ross was an AS or had expectations of him to be that. I said he'd top out at a MoPete like contribution (despite different tools a bit). But that doesn't mean because he's in a lesser role that he's excused from being called out for poor play.

And what does current stage of development mean? He's a third year player now and only a year younger than DD.

[SciencePiggy]

That was not the first night DeRozan went 0 for something this season. Prior to his injury he barely had any good games.

Actually it was the first game he's gone 0 for something this season. The Dallas game doesn't really count since he got hurt in that game and he's had two other bad games prior to injury against Milwaukee and Chicago.

And barely had any good games? LMAO. Clearly you're not watching.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... ar-derozan

He's had plenty of good and great performances, mixed in with his usual average. Whereas Ross was playing like crap for the better part of a month almost now. Not even close to comparable and there was no reason to bring DD in to the conversation here.

I fully agree there's no reason to bring DD into the thread but to counter your defense, the guy is shooting abysmally low percentages for the season. And sure he didn't finish the Dallas game but he still went 0-8 in 20 minutes.

I do, however, appreciate his extra focus on the boards and defense in general this year.

[SciencePiggy]

double post

[HeartBreaking]

I would actually rest lowry for 3 games

[Dukenukem23]

Leave ross alone!

[Matty]

DeRozan went 0-9 last night and was benched in the last part of the game, what is their not to discuss? He's been sub-par all season. 40.6% shooting is no where near efficient for an all-star. My expectations of him are much greater than Ross who is where he should be in his current stage of development, unless you think Ross is going to be an All-star on this team, in which case you need to reevaluate your expectations of him.

Derozan has had a few bad games, last night being one of them. But to call him out coming back from injury while defending Ross seems a bit ridiculous. This thread was about Ross and his struggles and his poor play. What the heck does DD's performance have to do with Ross.

Ross has been worse for a longer an consecutive stretch. I'm not here defending DD, just the fact that you brought him up to justify and defend Ross. It has no bearing on the discussion about Ross.

And while DD's shooting has been down, he's also had great games for us during our winning, he also does other things like get to the line and his defense has been better this season. What does Ross provide cause his D has been pretty bad all year and then the recent longer stretch of poor offensive performances.

I never said Ross was an AS or had expectations of him to be that. I said he'd top out at a MoPete like contribution (despite different tools a bit). But that doesn't mean because he's in a lesser role that he's excused from being called out for poor play.

And what does current stage of development mean? He's a third year player now and only a year younger than DD.

At what point would you like others to call out DD? 5 games in? 10 games? 20? Every thread seems to be about Ross and his struggles. If I was an outsider lurking on the Raptors board for the first time I would think Ross is a major player on the team who is mightily struggling. Just like everyone has the right to bash Ross, I have the right to criticize DeRozan's poor season which was covered up by his injury.

I still don't understand why you're comparing DeRozan and Ross as if they had the same opportunities in the NBA. Just before the Bucks game TR just surpassed DD's minute totals after his 2nd year, and we're half way through Ross' 3rd season, on a team that's been winning games since his inclusion on the starting lineup.