Cowboys tender Beasley

[Manster7588]

Like I said , I just brought up Gordon's name. I don't know his history very well. I just read that 5 teams would likely be interested- Raiders, 49ers, Colts, Pats, Eagles. Obviously he isn't in our plans.

Going to sound like an ass here, but of you can read "The Cat in the Hat" you should be able to read about Gordons history.

I don't think it's IF he'll be suspended, but WHEN is more like it.

[Romotodez]

He must have done something in college as well. He didn't do very much as far as numbers and the Browns took him in the supplementary draft

[PDay8810]

Baylor University...kicked off the team.
can't stop smoking the bud

[PDay8810]

now think Romo, use your baseball coach instincts.

The culture in Dallas has done a 180....would you really want to add this guy

[Romotodez]

We added McClain didn't we????? I have already said it- Gordon was just an intriguing name to me. I want speed. Pot surely isn't the only thing that guy has done.

[Romotodez]

I could be wrong but I just don't think we resign Murray. That's a huge loss. Some think we can just plug anybody in. I don't think so. Even if we do add an Ingram or Peterson- neither is the threat in the passing game that Murray is. I know I value Murray to high likely, but if we are speaking of chemistry?????

[PDay8810]

McClain was a low risk one year deal that cost you a 6th
No....and I mean no comparison here.

Murray will most likely be history and a guy like Ingram could be the lead horse by committee. Who knows? It's kinda seems like a non-panic situation to me. Peterson is not on the open market and if he was....he's more money than Murray. That makes no, zero football sense to sign him to replace Murray....and this year more than any other year before this one, Jerry ain't stepping backwards in his thinking....which seems to be listening to the "Football Guys". NOW....a #2 or #3 round pick with an Ingram, Randle, Dunbar type mix? It is a bulls eye position, as Wild Bill said.

Best option remains 3 years with 8 to 10 guaranteed for Murray. If he wants to play the business side, then God Bless you and Good Luck!

[Manster7588]

McClain and many other NFL Players are not Choir Boys, but they aren't a high risk at a suspension either. Gordon is a suspension waiting to happen. Oh his next suspension is likely 16 games.

[Romotodez]

Forgive me for believing in Garrett. I don't know much about Gordon at all but I would hope he has done more than just pot to get all that suspension. I think back to the days we had a healthy Miles and Dez. I don't think we are that potent as far as wideouts. Maybe I'm underestimating Williams. One thing I do know is Witten looks slower and slower. He caught a pass on third and 8 vs GB. When he first caught it, there was a hole and It looked like he might score. The next thing I knew he was being tackled for a 12 yard gain. I love Witten and he is still a good player, but we need another option. They did use him more at the end of the year. As far as McClain- he is a good football player for those 3 hours on Sunday, but I'm just not sure he can be counted on. The guy is one odd dude. The defense needs to be fixed first, I agree but I wouldn't want to sacrifice offense for defense.

[Manster7588]

Forgive me for believing in Garrett. I don't know much about Gordon at all but I would hope he has done more than just pot to get all that suspension. I think back to the days we had a healthy Miles and Dez. I don't think we are that potent as far as wideouts. Maybe I'm underestimating Williams. One thing I do know is Witten looks slower and slower. He caught a pass on third and 8 vs GB. When he first caught it, there was a hole and It looked like he might score. The next thing I knew he was being tackled for a 12 yard gain. I love Witten and he is still a good player, but we need another option. They did use him more at the end of the year. As far as McClain- he is a good football player for those 3 hours on Sunday, but I'm just not sure he can be counted on. The guy is one odd dude. The defense needs to be fixed first, I agree but I wouldn't want to sacrifice offense for defense.

What does believing in Garrett have to do with it? Has he stated he wants Gordon?

Let's address your whole post. Miles is not the talent Gordon is, nor is he an alpha. Miles never publicly claimed he should be #1 Gordon will. Williams is more than fine as the #2 and he isn't causing waves.

Not quite sure what a aging TE has to do with Gordon, unless you think Gordon can play TE. If this is the case the pass rush will ends. Romo's season quickly.

As for McClain he cost us a 6rd pick which = low risk high reward.

There is absolutely nothing you can say that would get me to see the bright side to trading for Gordon. Odds are many will agree with me.

[Schmoopy1000]

RTD give up on Gordon. There are plenty of reasons not to go after Gordon, but all this should be a moot point for you, because you assume he will come cheap, & if he goes anywhere cheap his agent will need to be fired. Quit using McClain as an example. We basically got him for nothing & if he didn't work out, he would have easily been cut. Gordon isn't coming her (or anywhere) for free. Where ever Gordon goes I am willing to bet he is looking for commitment from the team. Which means he wouldn't be easily cut.

[Romotodez]

First off I never said to get rid of WItten. I said he was an aging , slowing number two option. As far as Miles, I disagree. When was right he was our number 1. Don't forget he had 2 really good years and went to 2 Pro Bowls I think. So that gave us Miles, DEz , WItten. Now we have a better DEz, a worse WItten , and T WIlliams. What we didn't have back then was the OLine we have now. I did throw Gordon out there because I thought he would be cheap. Maybe not. 4 get I brought him up. I thought he might sign a 1 yr deal for something like MCClain did. To me, I thought they were similar- meaning they were on their last chance. Now I hear Gordon smokes too much pot. I will just say he must be dumber than 60 percent of the league because he gets caught. I just threw 60 out there. It's probably higher. Back to our team , I'm trying to beat GB. To beat them we are gonna have to outscore. The game plan we had was ball control and limit possessions. Unfortunately that hurt us as well because we couldn't stop them the second half.

[Schmoopy1000]

First off I never said to get rid of WItten. I said he was an aging , slowing number two option. As far as Miles, I disagree. When was right he was our number 1. Don't forget he had 2 really good years and went to 2 Pro Bowls I think. So that gave us Miles, DEz , WItten. Now we have a better DEz, a worse WItten , and T WIlliams. What we didn't have back then was the OLine we have now. I did throw Gordon out there because I thought he would be cheap. Maybe not. 4 get I brought him up. I thought he might sign a 1 yr deal for something like MCClain did. To me, I thought they were similar- meaning they were on their last chance. Now I hear Gordon smokes too much pot. I will just say he must be dumber than 60 percent of the league because he gets caught. I just threw 60 out there. It's probably higher. Back to our team , I'm trying to beat GB. To beat them we are gonna have to outscore. The game plan we had was ball control and limit possessions. Unfortunately that hurt us as well because we couldn't stop them the second half.

better defense & we beat GB all day long.
To me highest priority is DL, 2nd would be DBs 3rd would be whatever best falls in our lap, whether through draft or otherwise. We will never have all pros at every position in the salary cap era, so to me to hit on a killer one two duo at WR, would mean finding a diamond in the mid to late rounds of the draft. Don't see why we would pay a good amount of money to a vet FA to be the #2.

As far as the Cowboys trying to find Wittens replacement. they keep trying (no matter how annoying those picks are)

[Romotodez]

I agree totally. Defense first.

[Jarntt]

First off I never said to get rid of WItten. I said he was an aging , slowing number two option. As far as Miles, I disagree. When was right he was our number 1. Don't forget he had 2 really good years and went to 2 Pro Bowls I think. So that gave us Miles, DEz , WItten. Now we have a better DEz, a worse WItten , and T WIlliams. What we didn't have back then was the OLine we have now. I did throw Gordon out there because I thought he would be cheap. Maybe not. 4 get I brought him up. I thought he might sign a 1 yr deal for something like MCClain did. To me, I thought they were similar- meaning they were on their last chance. Now I hear Gordon smokes too much pot. I will just say he must be dumber than 60 percent of the league because he gets caught. I just threw 60 out there. It's probably higher. Back to our team , I'm trying to beat GB. To beat them we are gonna have to outscore. The game plan we had was ball control and limit possessions. Unfortunately that hurt us as well because we couldn't stop them the second half.

better defense & we beat GB all day long.
To me highest priority is DL, 2nd would be DBs 3rd would be whatever best falls in our lap, whether through draft or otherwise. We will never have all pros at every position in the salary cap era, so to me to hit on a killer one two duo at WR, would mean finding a diamond in the mid to late rounds of the draft. Don't see why we would pay a good amount of money to a vet FA to be the #2.

As far as the Cowboys trying to find Wittens replacement. they keep trying (no matter how annoying those picks are)

I don't know about beating them all day long. I think our defenses are about even. Injured or not GB has an elite QB. You can't just match them at other positions and think you are going to beat them when they have Rodgers. We need a better pass rush and while we do need better cover guys CBs and Safeties) the pass rush and the coverage were actually good down the stretch.

We don't need a FA WR. If we keep our guys we have a true #1 in Dez, a guy in TWill that had 8 TDs in the regular season and followed it up with 3 more in 2 playoff games, Then we have Beasley who just got better and better throughout the year. Don't forget Harris if he comes back and our draft pick from last year (Street) who I read recently we really like even though he didn't play much. No room or need for big $'s at WR IMO.

I know you guys hate hearing this and have these visions of us going pass rushing DE at all costs in the draft, but it isn't going to just happen like that. We are going to go BPA with a lean towards need just like we have every draft lately. If there is a DE we like on the board we will take them over another position or maybe even trade up, but we have proven lately that we are prioritizing talent over need and it has been working. We are a lot better than we were, but we still have a lot of needs.

[Schmoopy1000]

First off I never said to get rid of WItten. I said he was an aging , slowing number two option. As far as Miles, I disagree. When was right he was our number 1. Don't forget he had 2 really good years and went to 2 Pro Bowls I think. So that gave us Miles, DEz , WItten. Now we have a better DEz, a worse WItten , and T WIlliams. What we didn't have back then was the OLine we have now. I did throw Gordon out there because I thought he would be cheap. Maybe not. 4 get I brought him up. I thought he might sign a 1 yr deal for something like MCClain did. To me, I thought they were similar- meaning they were on their last chance. Now I hear Gordon smokes too much pot. I will just say he must be dumber than 60 percent of the league because he gets caught. I just threw 60 out there. It's probably higher. Back to our team , I'm trying to beat GB. To beat them we are gonna have to outscore. The game plan we had was ball control and limit possessions. Unfortunately that hurt us as well because we couldn't stop them the second half.

better defense & we beat GB all day long.
To me highest priority is DL, 2nd would be DBs 3rd would be whatever best falls in our lap, whether through draft or otherwise. We will never have all pros at every position in the salary cap era, so to me to hit on a killer one two duo at WR, would mean finding a diamond in the mid to late rounds of the draft. Don't see why we would pay a good amount of money to a vet FA to be the #2.

As far as the Cowboys trying to find Wittens replacement. they keep trying (no matter how annoying those picks are)

I don't know about beating them all day long. I think our defenses are about even. Injured or not GB has an elite QB. You can't just match them at other positions and think you are going to beat them when they have Rodgers. We need a better pass rush and while we do need better cover guys CBs and Safeties) the pass rush and the coverage were actually good down the stretch.

We don't need a FA WR. If we keep our guys we have a true #1 in Dez, a guy in TWill that had 8 TDs in the regular season and followed it up with 3 more in 2 playoff games, Then we have Beasley who just got better and better throughout the year. Don't forget Harris if he comes back and our draft pick from last year (Street) who I read recently we really like even though he didn't play much. No room or need for big $'s at WR IMO.

I know you guys hate hearing this and have these visions of us going pass rushing DE at all costs in the draft, but it isn't going to just happen like that. We are going to go BPA with a lean towards need just like we have every draft lately. If there is a DE we like on the board we will take them over another position or maybe even trade up, but we have proven lately that we are prioritizing talent over need and it has been working. We are a lot better than we were, but we still have a lot of needs.

well I disagree with us having a good pass rush. Being better pass rush for us, doesn't mean we have a good pass rush.
Totally agree on the WR subject.
I by no means think we should reach for any position in the draft, but DL is still (to me) highest priority. Also I don't want a DE if things went perfect in the draft. I would want a disruptive DT.

[Manster7588]

First off I never said to get rid of WItten. I said he was an aging , slowing number two option. As far as Miles, I disagree. When was right he was our number 1. Don't forget he had 2 really good years and went to 2 Pro Bowls I think. So that gave us Miles, DEz , WItten. Now we have a better DEz, a worse WItten , and T WIlliams. What we didn't have back then was the OLine we have now. I did throw Gordon out there because I thought he would be cheap. Maybe not. 4 get I brought him up. I thought he might sign a 1 yr deal for something like MCClain did. To me, I thought they were similar- meaning they were on their last chance. Now I hear Gordon smokes too much pot. I will just say he must be dumber than 60 percent of the league because he gets caught. I just threw 60 out there. It's probably higher. Back to our team , I'm trying to beat GB. To beat them we are gonna have to outscore. The game plan we had was ball control and limit possessions. Unfortunately that hurt us as well because we couldn't stop them the second half.

Hey your the one who brought Witten up in a conversation about a WR.
As for Miles one year getting #1 production it was Dez' rookie year. You remember that year right. Do you rber Dez couldn't run to routes he right way. Romo DIDN'T trust Dez for two years. Miles got those numbers by default and teams were more still more concerned with Dez and Witten over Miles.

Tell you what. I'm done here. If you can get two other here to think Gordon in Dallas is a good idea I'll try never to question you again.

[Manster7588]

First off I never said to get rid of WItten. I said he was an aging , slowing number two option. As far as Miles, I disagree. When was right he was our number 1. Don't forget he had 2 really good years and went to 2 Pro Bowls I think. So that gave us Miles, DEz , WItten. Now we have a better DEz, a worse WItten , and T WIlliams. What we didn't have back then was the OLine we have now. I did throw Gordon out there because I thought he would be cheap. Maybe not. 4 get I brought him up. I thought he might sign a 1 yr deal for something like MCClain did. To me, I thought they were similar- meaning they were on their last chance. Now I hear Gordon smokes too much pot. I will just say he must be dumber than 60 percent of the league because he gets caught. I just threw 60 out there. It's probably higher. Back to our team , I'm trying to beat GB. To beat them we are gonna have to outscore. The game plan we had was ball control and limit possessions. Unfortunately that hurt us as well because we couldn't stop them the second half.

better defense & we beat GB all day long.
To me highest priority is DL, 2nd would be DBs 3rd would be whatever best falls in our lap, whether through draft or otherwise. We will never have all pros at every position in the salary cap era, so to me to hit on a killer one two duo at WR, would mean finding a diamond in the mid to late rounds of the draft. Don't see why we would pay a good amount of money to a vet FA to be the #2.

As far as the Cowboys trying to find Wittens replacement. they keep trying (no matter how annoying those picks are)

I don't know about beating them all day long. I think our defenses are about even. Injured or not GB has an elite QB. You can't just match them at other positions and think you are going to beat them when they have Rodgers. We need a better pass rush and while we do need better cover guys CBs and Safeties) the pass rush and the coverage were actually good down the stretch.

We don't need a FA WR. If we keep our guys we have a true #1 in Dez, a guy in TWill that had 8 TDs in the regular season and followed it up with 3 more in 2 playoff games, Then we have Beasley who just got better and better throughout the year. Don't forget Harris if he comes back and our draft pick from last year (Street) who I read recently we really like even though he didn't play much. No room or need for big $'s at WR IMO.

I know you guys hate hearing this and have these visions of us going pass rushing DE at all costs in the draft, but it isn't going to just happen like that. We are going to go BPA with a lean towards need just like we have every draft lately. If there is a DE we like on the board we will take them over another position or maybe even trade up, but we have proven lately that we are prioritizing talent over need and it has been working. We are a lot better than we were, but we still have a lot of needs.

Agree with the BPA approach. IMO DT is the #1 need but if there's better value at DE, CB, LB or S we shouldn't be reaching.

[Romotodez]

Again I never said get rid of Witten. Witten is our starting TE but he is our 2nd option in the passing game. I guess I made a mistake bringing up Gordon. I had heard the Browns were thinking about releasing him. I don't think we resign Harris. Street never looked the part this whole yr. I know he was just a rookie. Hopefully he gets better. I can't remember if we still have Boyd on the practice squad or not.

[PDay8810]

Gee, I like Williams

Guess we could get Gordon, Dez and trade for Bennett and become the bears.

You remain all over the place but I must tell you...Green Bay is not the target