Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

[Paradise]

It is kind of baffling that Mozgov can fetch two 1st rders and we can't get the Thunder to give us Jackson along with their other guys.

I won't go as far as to say Mozgov is better, but Lopez plays like a pussy and I'm tired of his ****. He does not give this team max effort each night.

I am praying the thunder come back to the table offering Perkins, Jackson, Lamb, and Jones.

Mozgov fetched two 1st round draft picks because the Cavs were desperate. Brook's injury history is the only thing keeping him from fetching us 1st round picks.

[Prokorov]

It is kind of baffling that Mozgov can fetch two 1st rders and we can't get the Thunder to give us Jackson along with their other guys.

I won't go as far as to say Mozgov is better, but Lopez plays like a pussy and I'm tired of his ****. He does not give this team max effort each night.

I am praying the thunder come back to the table offering Perkins, Jackson, Lamb, and Jones.

Mozgov fetched two 1st round draft picks because the Cavs were desperate. Brook's injury history is the only thing keeping him from fetching us 1st round picks.

i think his contract is a major factor as well

[MGrand15]

I really want the original proposed trade to happen of

Brook to OKC
Lamb/Jack to CHA
Stephenson/Perk to BKN

just would love to get another PG in the deal somewhere, especially Reggie, since we're losing Jack potentially

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

If OKC gets Lopez, there's no chance they keep Reggie this off-season.

Even though Reggie's going to be looking for a contract next year, he's a restricted FA and he's a young piece. I think he'd fit really nicely here - although I'd worry about pairing him and Lance together.

I just have no idea what his value around the league is. As a backup PG who's getting squeezed out by Waiters a bit AND has made it clear, he wants to leave OKC - I can't see his value being high.

[Prokorov]

I really want the original proposed trade to happen of

Brook to OKC
Lamb/Jack to CHA
Stephenson/Perk to BKN

just would love to get another PG in the deal somewhere, especially Reggie, since we're losing Jack potentially

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

If OKC gets Lopez, there's no chance they keep Reggie this off-season.

Even though Reggie's going to be looking for a contract next year, he's a restricted FA and he's a young piece. I think he'd fit really nicely here - although I'd worry about pairing him and Lance together.

I just have no idea what his value around the league is. As a backup PG who's getting squeezed out by Waiters a bit AND has made it clear, he wants to leave OKC - I can't see his value being high.

his value is high for them.... if only because he would help them this year. every year now with durant they have to maximize, which is why they are desperate for someone like brook in the first place. even if jackson walks, having him the rest of this year might be worth it....

maybe waiters cuts into his minutes, but dont forget they lost russ in the playoffs, if htat happened again and jackson wasnt there they'd be sunk. so the depth is big, especially in this window before KD hits free agency.

Also, just because they are better off trading him, doesnt mean they have to thorw him in a deal for us... they could trade him to one of the several teams hot on him instead and got alot more

[Luca Brasi]

I really want the original proposed trade to happen of

Brook to OKC
Lamb/Jack to CHA
Stephenson/Perk to BKN

just would love to get another PG in the deal somewhere, especially Reggie, since we're losing Jack potentially

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

If OKC gets Lopez, there's no chance they keep Reggie this off-season.

Even though Reggie's going to be looking for a contract next year, he's a restricted FA and he's a young piece. I think he'd fit really nicely here - although I'd worry about pairing him and Lance together.

I just have no idea what his value around the league is. As a backup PG who's getting squeezed out by Waiters a bit AND has made it clear, he wants to leave OKC - I can't see his value being high.

his value is high for them.... if only because he would help them this year. every year now with durant they have to maximize, which is why they are desperate for someone like brook in the first place. even if jackson walks, having him the rest of this year might be worth it....

maybe waiters cuts into his minutes, but dont forget they lost russ in the playoffs, if htat happened again and jackson wasnt there they'd be sunk. so the depth is big, especially in this window before KD hits free agency.

Also, just because they are better off trading him, doesnt mean they have to thorw him in a deal for us... they could trade him to one of the several teams hot on him instead and got alot more

You nailed it with those two quotes in bold. As an OKC fan, I can tell you those two statements are absolutely correct.

I think the deal will still happen. I think we are playing a game of chicken. The Nets want to move Brook, and OKC wants Brook. The Nets want more, the Thunder don't wanna give up more. But obviously, nobody else is putting in a better offer cause you almost pulled the trigger with us twice.

We might sweeten the pot a little bit with Perry Jones, but I can't imagine that we'd go from almost dealing Perk/Lamb to all of a sudden including a great piece like Reggie Jackson.

It all depends on if you guys get a better offer. It just doesn't seem like that will happen. That's why I think the Brooklyn/OKC/Charlotte three way deal makes the most sense for all three teams.

[JoseRizal]

Saw a write-up about the proposed Lopez trade (though not sure if factual):

"One league source says the three-way deal that was to send Brook Lopez to Oklahoma City and Lance Stephenson to Brooklyn was never that close. "They didn't want [Kendrick] Perkins or Lance," the source said of the Nets. That doesn't mean a deal still couldn't be rekindled with other parts and trade partners. One wrinkle is that the Nets are still in contention for a playoff spot, which has GM Billy King reluctant to simply hold a fire sale. If that changes in coming weeks, it's far more likely King wouldn't hold out for talent and would accept future assets instead.

The other problem, one Western Conference GM said, is when reports make it painfully clear a player is on the market. "When these things become public, it lowers the player's value," he said. "Everyone is like, 'Oh, they want to move him, let's make a (lousy) offer.'"

So Billy is expecting this core to still make the playoffs?

[bondom34]

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

If OKC gets Lopez, there's no chance they keep Reggie this off-season.

Even though Reggie's going to be looking for a contract next year, he's a restricted FA and he's a young piece. I think he'd fit really nicely here - although I'd worry about pairing him and Lance together.

I just have no idea what his value around the league is. As a backup PG who's getting squeezed out by Waiters a bit AND has made it clear, he wants to leave OKC - I can't see his value being high.

his value is high for them.... if only because he would help them this year. every year now with durant they have to maximize, which is why they are desperate for someone like brook in the first place. even if jackson walks, having him the rest of this year might be worth it....

maybe waiters cuts into his minutes, but dont forget they lost russ in the playoffs, if htat happened again and jackson wasnt there they'd be sunk. so the depth is big, especially in this window before KD hits free agency.

Also, just because they are better off trading him, doesnt mean they have to thorw him in a deal for us... they could trade him to one of the several teams hot on him instead and got alot more

You nailed it with those two quotes in bold. As an OKC fan, I can tell you those two statements are absolutely correct.

I think the deal will still happen. I think we are playing a game of chicken. The Nets want to move Brook, and OKC wants Brook. The Nets want more, the Thunder don't wanna give up more. But obviously, nobody else is putting in a better offer cause you almost pulled the trigger with us twice.

We might sweeten the pot a little bit with Perry Jones, but I can't imagine that we'd go from almost dealing Perk/Lamb to all of a sudden including a great piece like Reggie Jackson.

It all depends on if you guys get a better offer. It just doesn't seem like that will happen. That's why I think the Brooklyn/OKC/Charlotte three way deal makes the most sense for all three teams.

Pretty much how I feel too from OKC's side. Dude, drop by the team board sometime, we don't get a ton of traffic, mostly a small group of regulars, but everyone's welcome .

[NyCeEvO]

So Billy is expecting this core to still make the playoffs?

Not to say I told you so but....

[Keith Van Horn]

and now I don't think this trade is ever going to happen. Taking too long, Lopez is playing OK, and King is probably thinking still this core is going to lead him to the NBA championship when will it end....

[Prokorov]

You nailed it with those two quotes in bold. As an OKC fan, I can tell you those two statements are absolutely correct.

I think the deal will still happen. I think we are playing a game of chicken. The Nets want to move Brook, and OKC wants Brook. The Nets want more, the Thunder don't wanna give up more. But obviously, nobody else is putting in a better offer cause you almost pulled the trigger with us twice.

We might sweeten the pot a little bit with Perry Jones, but I can't imagine that we'd go from almost dealing Perk/Lamb to all of a sudden including a great piece like Reggie Jackson.

It all depends on if you guys get a better offer. It just doesn't seem like that will happen. That's why I think the Brooklyn/OKC/Charlotte three way deal makes the most sense for all three teams.

i just dont see a deal with the thunder or hornets happening. According to bucher the talks never even really got as close as originally reported. King doesnt want perkins or lance. so this deal is really contingent on the nets flipping perkins for something that helps now.

Honestly, i think i see a deal with the heat as most likely... they themselves need to make a move to stay in the playoffs and Deng is someone king was high on and has twice tried to aquire. He would also allow JJ not to play 40 minutes a night. I think a Deng/Cole + filler deal is whats most likely to happen unless the FO forces king's hand on lance or another team comes into the fray.

i just dont think OKC/Nets are good partners... thunder dont give us a win now player, so as mentioned unless Perkins could be flippe dfor like thad young, i cant see that deal going down... not unless nets really slide and are 3+ games out of the 8 seed by the deadline

[MrDollarBills]

We can make a trade and still make the playoffs if the right pieces come back. That's why either the trade needs to be expanded or OKC needs to cough up more.

Either way, this team is going to drop into the lottery because Detroit is on fire right now and we have a lot of dead weight on this roster playing heavy minutes.

[Prokorov]

and now I don't think this trade is ever going to happen. Taking too long, Lopez is playing OK, and King is probably thinking still this core is going to lead him to the NBA championship when will it end....

I dont think king thinks this team is a lock for the playoffs... i think he is just in a spot where he doesnt want lance or perkins and the FO wants those guys. he is in a game of chicken, but not with OKC, with the executives

[HeartSouloma]

Saw a write-up about the proposed Lopez trade (though not sure if factual):

"One league source says the three-way deal that was to send Brook Lopez to Oklahoma City and Lance Stephenson to Brooklyn was never that close. "They didn't want [Kendrick] Perkins or Lance," the source said of the Nets. That doesn't mean a deal still couldn't be rekindled with other parts and trade partners. One wrinkle is that the Nets are still in contention for a playoff spot, which has GM Billy King reluctant to simply hold a fire sale. If that changes in coming weeks, it's far more likely King wouldn't hold out for talent and would accept future assets instead.

The other problem, one Western Conference GM said, is when reports make it painfully clear a player is on the market. "When these things become public, it lowers the player's value," he said. "Everyone is like, 'Oh, they want to move him, let's make a (lousy) offer.'"

So Billy is expecting this core to still make the playoffs?

Scott Brooks and Billy King would make a perfect couple.

Yeah, that's what I was thinking

If OKC gets Lopez, there's no chance they keep Reggie this off-season.

Even though Reggie's going to be looking for a contract next year, he's a restricted FA and he's a young piece. I think he'd fit really nicely here - although I'd worry about pairing him and Lance together.

I just have no idea what his value around the league is. As a backup PG who's getting squeezed out by Waiters a bit AND has made it clear, he wants to leave OKC - I can't see his value being high.

his value is high for them.... if only because he would help them this year. every year now with durant they have to maximize, which is why they are desperate for someone like brook in the first place. even if jackson walks, having him the rest of this year might be worth it....

maybe waiters cuts into his minutes, but dont forget they lost russ in the playoffs, if htat happened again and jackson wasnt there they'd be sunk. so the depth is big, especially in this window before KD hits free agency.

Also, just because they are better off trading him, doesnt mean they have to thorw him in a deal for us... they could trade him to one of the several teams hot on him instead and got alot more

You nailed it with those two quotes in bold. As an OKC fan, I can tell you those two statements are absolutely correct.

I think the deal will still happen. I think we are playing a game of chicken. The Nets want to move Brook, and OKC wants Brook. The Nets want more, the Thunder don't wanna give up more. But obviously, nobody else is putting in a better offer cause you almost pulled the trigger with us twice.

We might sweeten the pot a little bit with Perry Jones, but I can't imagine that we'd go from almost dealing Perk/Lamb to all of a sudden including a great piece like Reggie Jackson.

It all depends on if you guys get a better offer. It just doesn't seem like that will happen. That's why I think the Brooklyn/OKC/Charlotte three way deal makes the most sense for all three teams.

I agree

[MrDollarBills]

and now I don't think this trade is ever going to happen. Taking too long, Lopez is playing OK, and King is probably thinking still this core is going to lead him to the NBA championship when will it end....

I dont think king thinks this team is a lock for the playoffs... i think he is just in a spot where he doesnt want lance or perkins and the FO wants those guys. he is in a game of chicken, but not with OKC, with the executives

King won't have a job once a group puts together a suitable offer for the team, so I don't know why he's worried. His days are numbered slowly but surely.

[Luca Brasi]

Knowing that it's going to take your team being out of the playoffs for you to go ahead with the trade has made it a lot of fun rooting against you guys.

That said, I hate the Clippers so much that I hate you for forcing me to root for them tonight.

[Paradise]

Denver expected to make another pitch for Lopez.

But when those wheels get back turning again — and they will — there will be no shortage of suitors, and the Nuggets are expected to be among them. They’ve already made one run at it, but were rebuffed along with everyone else by the Nets in favor of negotiations with Oklahoma City, and those talks got intense before breaking down.

For the Nuggets it could be an opportunity to unload center JaVale McGee’s contract, which is an expiring one next season. That’s also part of the problem. It’s not expiring this season. And for any team to take that on right now for a player the caliber of Lopez, there’s probably going to have to be a first-round pick involved and or/young player with sizeable upside included as well.

The offers Brooklyn receives as the trade deadline nears will be interesting. The Nuggets must decide how badly they want to be part of the Lopez sweepstakes and how much is too much to offer.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/201 ... ade/12453/

[Luca Brasi]

Denver expected to make another pitch for Lopez.

But when those wheels get back turning again — and they will — there will be no shortage of suitors, and the Nuggets are expected to be among them. They’ve already made one run at it, but were rebuffed along with everyone else by the Nets in favor of negotiations with Oklahoma City, and those talks got intense before breaking down.

For the Nuggets it could be an opportunity to unload center JaVale McGee’s contract, which is an expiring one next season. That’s also part of the problem. It’s not expiring this season. And for any team to take that on right now for a player the caliber of Lopez, there’s probably going to have to be a first-round pick involved and or/young player with sizeable upside included as well.

The offers Brooklyn receives as the trade deadline nears will be interesting. The Nuggets must decide how badly they want to be part of the Lopez sweepstakes and how much is too much to offer.

http://blogs.denverpost.com/nuggets/201 ... ade/12453/

The Nets trading for McGee seems to be the exact opposite of what they are trying to accomplish. The first round draft pick is nice, but it will be a mid rounder. That's really not worth taking on McGee's contract next season.

[F3LON]

Aldridge is out for 6-8 Weeks and they are going to need a frontcourt scorer. I can see them trading for Lopez since he can carry the load until Aldridge comes back and fits next to him.

Something with Meyer Leonard and T-Rob would work

[Paradise]

Aldridge is out for 6-8 Weeks and they are going to need a frontcourt scorer. I can see them trading for Lopez since he can carry the load until Aldridge comes back and fits next to him.

Something with Meyer Leonard and T-Rob would work

No, It wouldn't. That's terrible.

[F3LON]

Aldridge is out for 6-8 Weeks and they are going to need a frontcourt scorer. I can see them trading for Lopez since he can carry the load until Aldridge comes back and fits next to him.

Something with Meyer Leonard and T-Rob would work

No, It wouldn't. That's terrible.

Better yet CJ McCallum