Struggle Street - The Gary Neal Thread

[mrknowitall215]

I don't think it would hurt to give more minutes depending on matchups to any one of the players between the SG to PF positions. All, Henderson, MKG, and Zeller could use more minutes. Also, factor in the fact that Stephenson is a 6th man now, it probably wouldn't (or could) hurt to bolster his playing time up to between 25-27 minutes since he's only been playing 21 minutes per game upon return from injury.

You want to give Lance more minutes AND to play Hendo and MKG more? How does that work?

Allow MKG to play some sporadic minutes PF against stretch 4 opponents. Allow Henderson/Stephenson to play some minutes together as dual wings (SG/SF). Allow Zeller to play some minutes at C against smaller centers. It'll all balance out

It's already bad enough that MKG is one of our very few biggest difference makers via net ratings (specifically defensive net ratings) and he doesn't even play at or above 30 minutes per game. I feel like that need to change. I'm aware that MKG's minutes have increased over the month of January up to 29 minutes per game. During that span we are 8-2

[yosemiteben]

Can see that, just seems like you're not going to be able to increase minutes of two of Hendo, MKG and Lance without cutting back on minutes of the third one, especially if you want to potentially increase minutes of both Cody and Biz. Sticking MKG at a stretch PF would be a way to do it based on matchups and I do agree that he really needs more time, but I'm already nervous about the wear and tear he puts on his body with the way he plays so adding minutes at the PF spot makes me even more nervous.

If we could magically turn Neal, Hendo and Taylor into a starting level SG that can shoot and play solid defense that would be amazing.

[BlackOutBuzz]

"I EARNED My Money, so **** you all" - The Gary Neal Thread

[mrknowitall215]

Can see that, just seems like you're not going to be able to increase minutes of two of Hendo, MKG and Lance without cutting back on minutes of the third one, especially if you want to potentially increase minutes of both Cody and Biz. Sticking MKG at a stretch PF would be a way to do it based on matchups and I do agree that he really needs more time, but I'm already nervous about the wear and tear he puts on his body with the way he plays so adding minutes at the PF spot makes me even more nervous.

If we could magically turn Neal, Hendo and Taylor into a starting level SG that can shoot and play solid defense that would be amazing.

See, you're seeing it like Clifford as a preset rotation. My point of view is to allocate the minutes based on which matchup and momentum best suit the team on a particular night. It doesn't have to be a nightly or set minutes type of thing. One game MKG may play more minutes from his usual, the next Henderson may play more minutes from his usual, and trice versa. Minutes on this team should vary, and the only staples on this team that should be guaranteed over 30 minutes on a nightly basis are Kemba & MKG. MKG & Stephenson can both play three different positions. Henderson & Zeller can both play two different positions. We have versatility on our roster that we need to use more often

[TheKingofSting]

Just decrease the minutes of Neal, it's simple.

[catch20two]

Can see that, just seems like you're not going to be able to increase minutes of two of Hendo, MKG and Lance without cutting back on minutes of the third one, especially if you want to potentially increase minutes of both Cody and Biz. Sticking MKG at a stretch PF would be a way to do it based on matchups and I do agree that he really needs more time, but I'm already nervous about the wear and tear he puts on his body with the way he plays so adding minutes at the PF spot makes me even more nervous.

If we could magically turn Neal, Hendo and Taylor into a starting level SG that can shoot and play solid defense that would be amazing.

See, you're seeing it like Clifford as a preset rotation. My point of view is to allocate the minutes based on which matchup and momentum best suit the team on a particular night. It doesn't have to be a nightly or set minutes type of thing. One game MKG may play more minutes from his usual, the next Henderson may play more minutes from his usual, and trice versa. Minutes on this team should vary, and the only staples on this team that should be guaranteed over 30 minutes on a nightly basis are Kemba & MKG. MKG & Stephenson can both play three different positions. Henderson & Zeller can both play two different positions. We have versatility on our roster that we need to use more often

Amen.

[BeesWax]

I Earn My Money Once Every Five Games - The Gary Neal Thread

[Braggins]

Is Neal going to even make an NBA roster after this season? I ask because whenever someone brings up that we should have resigned CDR or Tolliver someone always points out CDR being cut. However, I kind of feel like Neal, Roberts, Marvin, and Maxiell are either going to be out of the NBA or a 15th man that never plays once their contracts are up here. When nearly half of your rotation aren't players that should definitively be in the league there is a problem, especially when that team has playoff aspirations. How in the world did this happen?

[catch20two]

Is Neal going to even make an NBA roster after this season? I ask because whenever someone brings up that we should have resigned CDR or Tolliver someone always points out CDR being cut. However, I kind of feel like Neal, Roberts, Marvin, and Maxiell are either going to be out of the NBA or a 15th man that never plays once their contracts are up here. When nearly half of your rotation aren't players that should definitively be in the league there is a problem, especially when that team has playoff aspirations. How in the world did this happen?

Cho aka The D-League Whisperer (Mcbob, Sessions, Adrien, CDR, Neal, Roberts)

[catch20two]

I don't have no idea how Neal continue to get playing time or how he creeped his bum ass back into the rotation when PJ was starting to play his best ball but Clifford need to be questioned. Neal got the worst value above replacement on the team and I don't get me started on his shooting numbers.

[HornetJail]

Is Neal going to even make an NBA roster after this season? I ask because whenever someone brings up that we should have resigned CDR or Tolliver someone always points out CDR being cut. However, I kind of feel like Neal, Roberts, Marvin, and Maxiell are either going to be out of the NBA or a 15th man that never plays once their contracts are up here. When nearly half of your rotation aren't players that should definitively be in the league there is a problem, especially when that team has playoff aspirations. How in the world did this happen?

He will stick around like Ben Gordon until half the teams in the league are fed up with him. Maxiell and Taylor probably won't get on another NBA team though. Marvin will sign for the minimum or the room exception for someone for the next couple years. Roberts will be a third point guard somewhere. I don't wish Neal on anybody (except Miami or Cleveland)

[catch20two]

I doubt Neal stick around like Gordon after this contract. Gordon was a borderline all-star averaging 20 points on a Baby Bulls team that were consistently in the playoffs. The most Neal ever did was average 10 points off the bench for the Spurs and that's pretty much his calling card.

Neal will sign on with some team after this year to a unguaranteed contract and get waived like CDR and Adrien once that team want to fill his spot with a more serviceable player.

[catch20two]

This super bum Neal was 0-6 (0-3 on 3pters) tonight with 0 points in 15 minutes.

[Liver_Pooty]

Neal over the past 5 games is shooting 31 percent from the field and 15% from 3. I was once a fan of Neal in November when he was a solid player off the bench, but hes been doing this for 2 months now. Ridiculous, pathetic, and idiotic.

[catch20two]

Neal over the past 5 games is shooting 31 percent from the field and 15% from 3. I was once a fan of Neal in November when he was a solid player off the bench, but hes been doing this for 2 months now. Ridiculous, pathetic, and idiotic.

Poor man's Ben Gordon that's unhumbled as long as he get his consistent 15-20 minutes and sometimes more if he actually make a shot.

[Braggins]

This guy...

[Liver_Pooty]

To Neals credit he is at least trying. Granted that doesn't cut it, but Gordon didn't even try when he was here.

[catch20two]

To Neals credit he is at least trying. Granted that doesn't cut it, but Gordon didn't even try when he was here.

Gordon was still better without trying. That says a lot to me.

[Al Kidd-Walker]

Safe to say we lost that trade last year.. not that the Bucks won either but still

[catch20two]

Safe to say we lost that trade last year.. not that the Bucks won either but still

Yup. The Bucks got out of Neal's contract for expirings. Readjusted in the offseason and now they went from worst team in the league to better than us.