Best young Center Poll

[Coxy]

Gobert is showing some nice stuff, but I doubt he reaches anything spectacular. He's pretty slow and doesn't seem like a type to want to dominate opponents.

LOL. I know YOU are kidding.

Amish, I don't question your cred whatsoever, especially all things Utah, but when we played Utah, his size and coordination was evident, but his demeanor and aggressive nature was average. Looked like a guy with solid mechanics, but not a dominant type character at all. Whiteside caused us more headaches when we played Miami as he was really active and hustled. Your boy, didn't have much fire.

I haven't watched all that much of him though, so maybe I'm horribly off and he just drank too much Shiraz the night before the Warrior game.

[Illmatic12]

If Nerlens Noel could stay healthy I see him as frontrunner... He has the best skill set imo

He is the most limited player on that list. I'm not even sure what position he could play fulltime in the NBA.

I like a lot of aspects about Noel's game (specifically his quick hands which are rare for a big man), but he's never going to be more than a 20-25mpg defensive specialist big ala Larry Sanders. You can't play him at center for 30-35+ minutes and expect to be successful, he's an offensive liability. And physically would get snapped in half like a twig, I'm surprised he hasn't been injured playing C for the Sixers this season.. must be taking a beating.

The guy to watch on that Sixers team is Embiid once he takes the court.

[GallagherArt]

Len is getting slightly overrated here, he's shown flashes on offense, however while his calling card seems to be his defense and while he has shown that he can block shots, he does so too often by throwing caution to the wind. He fouls 7.8 times per 100 possessions, 19th highest in the league (>100 mins), he needs to get that in check before he can be a reliable rim protector and that will likely be at the expense of some of his blocks.

[Amish Mafioso]

Gobert is showing some nice stuff, but I doubt he reaches anything spectacular. He's pretty slow and doesn't seem like a type to want to dominate opponents.

LOL. I know YOU are kidding.

Amish, I don't question your cred whatsoever, especially all things Utah, but when we played Utah, his size and coordination was evident, but his demeanor and aggressive nature was average.
I haven't watched all that much of him though, so maybe I'm horribly off and he just drank too much Shiraz the night before the Warrior game.

Fair enough, my friend. Believe it or not, you and I go back a few years. Remember the tank when GS kept the pick Utah might have grabbed? I used to show up in your tank thread blowing up tanks, Remember me, Coxy? I used to argue with my fellow jazz fans that GS would be on top some day. You should remember me, because I supported your tank maneuvers.

[Coxy]

LOL. I know YOU are kidding.

Amish, I don't question your cred whatsoever, especially all things Utah, but when we played Utah, his size and coordination was evident, but his demeanor and aggressive nature was average.
I haven't watched all that much of him though, so maybe I'm horribly off and he just drank too much Shiraz the night before the Warrior game.

Fair enough, my friend. Believe it or not, you and I go back a few years. Remember the tank when GS kept the pick Utah might have grabbed? I used to show up in your tank thread blowing up tanks, Remember me, Coxy? I used to argue with my fellow jazz fans that GS would be on top some day. You should remember me, because I supported your tank maneuvers.

Yeah I remember that. Seems as though the tank worked for us.

[Amish Mafioso]

Yeah I remember that. Seems as thought he tank worked for us.

Fine. I look out for both our teams.

[Amish Mafioso]

Yeah I remember that. Seems as thought he tank worked for us.

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[floppymoose]

Not sure why Anthony Davis isn't on the list. He's really a center in my book, regardless of what NOH calls him.

1) Davis
2) Noel
3) Drummond
4) Gobert

This is not based on where they are now, but is my projection of where they end up when we look back and rate their careers.

[Vinsanity_GOAT]

I'll go with gobert. Biyombo's my second pick, if he's really only 22yo.

I'd like to give a mention to meyers leonard as well since he's been having a good season and obviously he's huge, athletic and now he's even taking and making threes. So i'm interested to see how he's going to turn out.

[Tomazan]

Vucevic
Drummond
Valanciunas
Gobert
Adams
Nurkic
......
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Len

[jgosche]

AGE 25-AND-YOUNGER

AGE 20 SEASON
Nurkic
Noel

AGE 21 SEASON
Len
Drummond
Adams

AGE 22 SEASON
Gobert
Leonard
Valanciunas
Biyombo

AGE 24 SEASON
Cousins
Henson
Plumlee
Vucevic

AGE 25 SEASON
Whiteside
T. Zeller
Dieng

MY LIST
1. Cousins
2. Whiteside
3. Gobert
4. Valanciunas
5. Drummond
6. Len
7. T. Zeller
8. Vucevic
9. Plumlee
10. Nurkic
11. Henson
12. Leonard
13. Biyombo
14. Dieng
15. Adams

No offense man, but you're riding Whiteside a little too hard off of 17 games.

I'm not even going to go into the fact that you have Tyler Zeller over Vucevic.

[cyclix]

AGE 25-AND-YOUNGER

AGE 20 SEASON
Nurkic
Noel

AGE 21 SEASON
Len
Drummond
Adams

AGE 22 SEASON
Gobert
Leonard
Valanciunas
Biyombo

AGE 24 SEASON
Cousins
Henson
Plumlee
Vucevic

AGE 25 SEASON
Whiteside
T. Zeller
Dieng

MY LIST
1. Cousins
2. Whiteside
3. Gobert
4. Valanciunas
5. Drummond
6. Len
7. T. Zeller
8. Vucevic
9. Plumlee
10. Nurkic
11. Henson
12. Leonard
13. Biyombo
14. Dieng
15. Adams

No offense man, but you're riding Whiteside a little too hard off of 17 games.

I'm not even going to go into the fact that you have Tyler Zeller over Vucevic.

Whiteside (among current C)
1st in PER
1st in BLK%
2nd in DRTG (Bogut)
2nd in WS/48 (Tyson Chandler)
2nd in TRB% (Drummond)
4th in TS% (T. Chandler, D. Jordan, J. Jordan) |
4th in opp FG% at rim (Gobert, Hibbert, Bogut)

He has a good chance to be the best C in the league.

[tmorgan]

He has a good chance to be the best C in the league.

Less than a quarter of a season's worth of games... wait until the scouting catches up a little.

Also, even discounting things before January, he's playing less than 20 minutes a game on average.

You're going to kill the poor guy with expectations.

[Tomazan]

yes, whiteside might be the best C of all time.

lmao

[jgosche]

AGE 25-AND-YOUNGER

AGE 20 SEASON
Nurkic
Noel

AGE 21 SEASON
Len
Drummond
Adams

AGE 22 SEASON
Gobert
Leonard
Valanciunas
Biyombo

AGE 24 SEASON
Cousins
Henson
Plumlee
Vucevic

AGE 25 SEASON
Whiteside
T. Zeller
Dieng

MY LIST
1. Cousins
2. Whiteside
3. Gobert
4. Valanciunas
5. Drummond
6. Len
7. T. Zeller
8. Vucevic
9. Plumlee
10. Nurkic
11. Henson
12. Leonard
13. Biyombo
14. Dieng
15. Adams

No offense man, but you're riding Whiteside a little too hard off of 17 games.

I'm not even going to go into the fact that you have Tyler Zeller over Vucevic.

Whiteside (among current C)
1st in PER
1st in BLK%
2nd in DRTG (Bogut)
2nd in WS/48 (Tyson Chandler)
2nd in TRB% (Drummond)
4th in TS% (T. Chandler, D. Jordan, J. Jordan) |
4th in opp FG% at rim (Gobert, Hibbert, Bogut)

He has a good chance to be the best C in the league.

The key I was pointing out was that it's been 17 games (12 if you take out the games where he played <10 minutes). He's been very good during that time I won't disagree with that, but you can't honestly expect that a 25 year old 2nd round pick is likely to become the best center in the league off of a sixth of a season.

Decent-good NBA center is a reasonable expectation.

[cyclix]

He has a good chance to be the best C in the league.

Less than a quarter of a season's worth of games... wait until the scouting catches up a little.

Also, even discounting things before January, he's playing less than 20 minutes a game on average.

You're going to kill the poor guy with expectations.

I've heard his detractors use the scouting BS against him multiple times. There is absolutely nothing to scout. You can't scout length, great hands and anticipation, feel, and defensive tenacity.

I do admit, he has to learn to keep out of foul trouble. That's his main flaw.

[cyclix]

yes, whiteside might be the best C of all time.

lmao

Don't know where you got the bolded & underined from in my post.

[cyclix]

No offense man, but you're riding Whiteside a little too hard off of 17 games.

I'm not even going to go into the fact that you have Tyler Zeller over Vucevic.

Whiteside (among current C)
1st in PER
1st in BLK%
2nd in DRTG (Bogut)
2nd in WS/48 (Tyson Chandler)
2nd in TRB% (Drummond)
4th in TS% (T. Chandler, D. Jordan, J. Jordan) |
4th in opp FG% at rim (Gobert, Hibbert, Bogut)

He has a good chance to be the best C in the league.

The key I was pointing out was that it's been 17 games. He's been very good during that time I won't disagree with that, but you can't honestly expect that a 25 year old 2nd round pick is likely to become the best center in the league off of a fifth of a season.

Decent-good NBA center is a reasonable expectation.

Why not? He's putting up great numbers, and has held his own against one of the better C in the league (D. Howard, Cousins, D. Jordan, Bogut to name a few). He needs to be more disciplined with the fouls though.

[jgosche]

Whiteside (among current C)
1st in PER
1st in BLK%
2nd in DRTG (Bogut)
2nd in WS/48 (Tyson Chandler)
2nd in TRB% (Drummond)
4th in TS% (T. Chandler, D. Jordan, J. Jordan) |
4th in opp FG% at rim (Gobert, Hibbert, Bogut)

He has a good chance to be the best C in the league.

The key I was pointing out was that it's been 17 games. He's been very good during that time I won't disagree with that, but you can't honestly expect that a 25 year old 2nd round pick is likely to become the best center in the league off of a fifth of a season.

Decent-good NBA center is a reasonable expectation.

Why not? He's putting up great numbers, and has held his own against one of the better C in the league (D. Howard, Cousins, D. Jordan, Bogut to name a few). He needs to be more disciplined with the fouls though.

Because that's projecting someone's entire career off of a very small sample size. It's the same reason I thought it was ridiculous when people were saying that Jeremy Lin has a good chance of being the best PG in the NBA when he was dropping 20 PPG in his first 17 games starting for the Knicks.

[cyclix]

The key I was pointing out was that it's been 17 games. He's been very good during that time I won't disagree with that, but you can't honestly expect that a 25 year old 2nd round pick is likely to become the best center in the league off of a fifth of a season.

Decent-good NBA center is a reasonable expectation.

Why not? He's putting up great numbers, and has held his own against one of the better C in the league (D. Howard, Cousins, D. Jordan, Bogut to name a few). He needs to be more disciplined with the fouls though.

Because that's projecting someone's entire career off of a very small sample size. It's the same reason I thought it was ridiculous when people were saying that Jeremy Lin has a good chance of being the best PG in the NBA when he was dropping 20 PPG in his first 17 games starting for the Knicks.

I think Hassans impact on the court goes beyond the boxscore. He raises the play of every player on the court on his team by his presence alone. I don't think Lin had that type of impact on the Knicks. Plus, Lin had flaws in his handles that needed to be corrected, and was eventually exposed by the Heat.