All-Star 2015 weekend

keynote · Post #1 » by **keynote** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 12:59 am

We might as well put the chatter leading up to the ASG in a single thread. Mods: feel free to move around.

I'm watching TNT's NBA Tip-Off show. Shaq picked *both* Gortat and Beal as All-Star reserves. Kenny and Chuck didn't pick any (Kenny picked three Hawks to come off the bench; Chuck picked *four* Hawks). EJ picked Gortat.

So, does Gortat actually have a chance to get in as a reserve -- in a conference with Noah, Horford, and Bosh?

Illmatic12 · Post #2 » by **Illmatic12** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:30 am

Surprisingly Gortat was just 70k votes behind Carmelo Anthony for a starting spot, and received more total votes than Chris Paul did.

keynote · Post #3 » by **keynote** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 1:47 am

Higga · Post #4 » by **Higga** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:16 pm

Would love to see Gortat get in. I don't know about deserve but hell, we've sucked for so long, I'll take every All-Star we can get. Plus, Gortat is at worst a pretty damn good C.

I wanted to see Wall in the dunk contest, but looks like he's not participating this year. He said he might do the skills contest though. Would like to see Beal in the 3 point contest again, since he had a strong showing last year.

Gotta rep D.C. as much as possible. We went through some loooong ass stretches in the late 90s/early 00s with no representation at all(I do remember Tracy Murray in the 3 point contest one year), now is the time to be greedy.

Post #5 » by **nate33** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:27 pm

Nobody else on the Wizards deserves it, except perhaps Nene. And Nene doesn't play enough minutes to produce the gaudy numbers you need to attract attention.

I really hope at least 3 Atlanta Hawks players make it, if not 4. They're remarkable.

The starters are Wall, Lowry, Lebron, Melo and Gasol. Just add the 4 Hawks plus Butler, Wade and Bosh.

MarcoPolo · Post #6 » by **MarcoPolo** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:55 pm

Polish and Wizards fans voted hard for Gortat, It was so close. Marcin Gortat #NBABallot

Post #7 » by **Ruzious** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:01 pm

nate33 wrote:Nobody else on the Wizards deserves it, except perhaps Nene. And Nene doesn't play enough minutes to produce the gaudy numbers you need to attract attention.

I really hope at least 3 Atlanta Hawks players make it, if not 4. They're remarkable.

The starters are Wall, Lowry, Lebron, Melo and Gasol. Just add the 4 Hawks plus Butler, Wade and Bosh.

Kyle Korver deserves it - just keeps getting better every year - at 33 years old. Whatever he's doing to improve, people should be copying. 74% TS% is sick.

Post #8 » by **miller31time** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:54 pm

Beal should definitely be in the 3pt shooting contest. Maybe even Rasual Butler.

And I'm with Nate re: Gortat. No way in hell does he deserve to be an All-Star. Love the guy but c'mon, he isn't having an All-Star season.

Nes k · Post #9 » by **Nes k** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 6:50 pm

Gortat before Vucevic, best big guy in the East? Those two are not even close!
Give me one guy with a better numbers that Vucevic!

GhostsOfGil · Post #10 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:20 pm

As much as Lowry deserves it, I was excited to see a Dwade/Wall backcourt.

Post #11 » by **miller31time** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:37 pm

Nes k wrote:Gortat before Vucevic, best big guy in the East? Those two are not even close!
Give me one guy with a better numbers that Vucevic!

Gortat per-36

14.9pts
9.9rebs
1.3asts
PER: 17.4

Vucevic per-36

19.9pts
11.6rebs
2.2asts
PER: 21.5

Nes k · Post #12 » by **Nes k** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:39 pm

Gortat vs Vucevic? like I said, not even close.

keynote · Post #13 » by **keynote** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:42 pm

nate33 wrote:Nobody else on the Wizards deserves it, except perhaps Nene. And Nene doesn't play enough minutes to produce the gaudy numbers you need to attract attention.

I really hope at least 3 Atlanta Hawks players make it, if not 4. They're remarkable.

The starters are Wall, Lowry, Lebron, Melo and Gasol. Just add the 4 Hawks plus Butler, Wade and Bosh.

The Hawks are dope, but 4 all-stars would be a bit hard to stomach. I could see the coaches leaving one off so that another team could get represented (not sure who, admittedly). But I don't see the coaches leaving one off so that the Wizards can get two.

keynote · Post #14 » by **keynote** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 8:48 pm

miller31time wrote:
Nes k wrote:Gortat before Vucevic, best big guy in the East? Those two are not even close!
Give me one guy with a better numbers that Vucevic!

Gortat per-36

14.9pts
9.9rebs
1.3asts
PER: 17.4

Vucevic per-36

19.9pts
11.6rebs
2.2asts
PER: 21.5

Vucevic has gaudier stats, but that 15-30 record won't win him any favors. The East is already stuck with Melo; I don't see them rewarding Vucevic over a fourth Hawk.

Moose Monroe, OTOH...
per-36:
18.5pts
12.1rbs
2.5asts
PER: 20.5

I could see Moose getting a surprise nod, in acknowledgment of how hot DET has been since they got rid of Josh Smith.

Post #15 » by **TheSecretWeapon** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 9:11 pm

The PPA All-Stars (using per game production with a minimum of 30 games played):

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EAST    PLAYER
G       Butler
G       Teague
FC      Lebron
FC      P.Gasol
FC      Horford
G       Wall
G       Lowry
FC      Millsap
FC      Love
FC      Bosh
O       Korver
O       Irving

Four Hawks deserve to be on the team. Vucevic and Irving were essentially tied. Someone deserving has to be bumped if Carmelo Anthony plays.

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WEST    PLAYER
G       Curry
G       Harden
FC      Davis
FC      Jordan
FC      Chandler
G       Paul
G       Lillard
FC      Aldridge
FC      Cousins
FC      M.Gasol
O       Thompson
O       Duncan

Frontcourt replacements for Aldridge would logically be Zach Randolph or Blake Griffin.

Backcourt replacement for Kobe should be Mike Conley.

daSwami · Post #16 » by **daSwami** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 10:35 pm

keynote wrote:We might as well put the chatter leading up to the ASG in a single thread. Mods: feel free to move around.

I'm watching TNT's NBA Tip-Off show. Shaq picked *both* Gortat and Beal as All-Star reserves. Kenny and Chuck didn't pick any (Kenny picked three Hawks to come off the bench; Chuck picked *four* Hawks). EJ picked Gortat.

So, does Gortat actually have a chance to get in as a reserve -- in a conference with Noah, Horford, and Bosh?

Probably not. You also have to think about the two "V" european guys - Vucevik and that dude in Toronto. Millsap, too.

keynote · Post #17 » by **keynote** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 4:34 pm

Looks like Beal and Butler won't be participating in the 3-point shootout.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--w ... 28712.html

Butler was a long shot -- especially now that he's cooled off. I thought Beal might have had a chance, given his strong performance last year and his name recognition as an "up and coming star". But I suppose if a player drastically reduces his 3PTA, he can't expect to maintain a reputation as a 3-point shooter.

MJG · Post #18 » by **MJG** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:14 pm

They're probably just saving Beal for the long-2-point shootout.

Dat2U · Post #19 » by **Dat2U** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:31 pm

Nes k wrote:Gortat before Vucevic, best big guy in the East? Those two are not even close!
Give me one guy with a better numbers that Vucevic!

If were going the empty stats guy route then I'd pick Drummond ahead of Vucevic.

Post #20 » by **pineappleheadindc** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 6:32 pm

MJG wrote:They're probably just saving Beal for the long-2-point shootout.

Win!!!!!