The Andrew Wiggins Thread

Killboard · Post #301 » by **Killboard** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:16 am

A really good question as pointed early is what position wiggins will be better at, specially the next 3-4 years. It seems like he is a SG all day. Personally I think if he gets better handling the ball then he will can dribble against bigger but slower players, develop euro steps with his long strides and more muscle will help him too.

Anyway if you want to establishing like a SG you has to have other wing that can punish the opposite team for defend andrew with their SF. Bazz fits the description exactly. Now he must get better spacing the floor and defending.
Im all for big, Towns or Okafor would be amazing. Towns can spread the floor, dish the ball, block shots, he is a perfect fit. Okafor is a dominant player who will atract double teams and wiggins can exploit to the rack.

Now if they are out of the table, my question is we should get

a defensive anchor to make team D better?
Mix of deandre jordan & nerlens noel

A athletic wing that can spread the floor?
Mix of joe johnson & klay thompson

A stretch four with blocking ability?
Mix of 3 pt range dirk and pau defense

A 3-4 tweener with big defensive potential?
Mix of artest with jimmy Butler

Im trying to figure which of the options would be better for the team and the long haul, but the rookie outputs are only in my mind, so... dont be hard on me.

ardee · Post #302 » by **ardee** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:06 am

21-5-3 on 51/45/78 in his last 13. This kid gon be real good.

shangrila · Post #303 » by **shangrila** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:28 am

guest81 wrote:The bigger question hasn't been if Wiggins will be good or not, to me at least. The bigger question is if the Wolves can actually put enough around Wiggins to where they can actually do something. So far, the Wolves are 0-2 based on their history

This is true, but there's hope. I've got far more faith in this scouting department than I ever had in the ones under Kahn and McHale, for example.

Post #304 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:58 am

guest81 wrote:
Klomp wrote:
guest81 wrote:The bigger question hasn't been if Wiggins will be good or not, to me at least. The bigger question is if the Wolves can actually put enough around Wiggins to where they can actually do something. So far, the Wolves are 0-2 based on their history

I seriously think Marbury/Garnett could've been special. Had the salary cap/max salaries been like they are today, I don't think Marbury would've demanded out. Or at least I like to think not.

And we already have Rubio locked in for the duration of Wiggins' rookie-scale deal. Plus a likely top-5 pick coming this summer. And a lot of other young pieces to build around that we just didn't have built up before drafting Garnett or Love.
. Unlike KG and to a lesser extant Love, just having a superstar with some good players around you, still isn't good enough to make the PO in the west. Hell NO probably have the best player in the league and they won't come close to making it. You have to be absolutely stacked these days. So Flip has to hit on a ton more going forward.

Oh and the Wolves have to find a way to keep players healthy. By now we have to stop saying what if when it comes to guys getting injured. That's going to be HUGE going forward

I may receive some sarcasm for this statement, but I truly believe - as you touched upon on your second paragraph - that the health of Ricky is the key to creating and maintaining a minor dynasty. He is the ultimate complimentary player.

We have young talent on this team, so we definitely are in a better place than post-Marbury Garnett era and all of the Khan and Love era. Health is the most important key.

Post #305 » by **Basti** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 11:25 am

Nitroglycerin wrote:Whats Im impressed about him is his durability. He's playing almost 40 minutes a game, guarding the best player on the opponent team and drops 20 points easily. And he's healthy

I really wonder when he'll hit the rookie wall. I mean, he's an athletic freak and all but it still has to happen at some point.

First Step · Post #306 » by **First Step** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:18 pm

Basti wrote:
Nitroglycerin wrote:Whats Im impressed about him is his durability. He's playing almost 40 minutes a game, guarding the best player on the opponent team and drops 20 points easily. And he's healthy

I really wonder when he'll hit the rookie wall. I mean, he's an athletic freak and all but it still has to happen at some point.

He already hit it... November and start of December. It's all buckets from here on out. :wink:

guest81 · Post #307 » by **guest81** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 4:58 pm

Domejandro wrote:
guest81 wrote:
Klomp wrote:I seriously think Marbury/Garnett could've been special. Had the salary cap/max salaries been like they are today, I don't think Marbury would've demanded out. Or at least I like to think not.

And we already have Rubio locked in for the duration of Wiggins' rookie-scale deal. Plus a likely top-5 pick coming this summer. And a lot of other young pieces to build around that we just didn't have built up before drafting Garnett or Love.
. Unlike KG and to a lesser extant Love, just having a superstar with some good players around you, still isn't good enough to make the PO in the west. Hell NO probably have the best player in the league and they won't come close to making it. You have to be absolutely stacked these days. So Flip has to hit on a ton more going forward.

Oh and the Wolves have to find a way to keep players healthy. By now we have to stop saying what if when it comes to guys getting injured. That's going to be HUGE going forward

I may receive some sarcasm for this statement, but I truly believe - as you touched upon on your second paragraph - that the health of Ricky is the key to creating and maintaining a minor dynasty. He is the ultimate complimentary player.

We have young talent on this team, so we definitely are in a better place than post-Marbury Garnett era and all of the Khan and Love era. Health is the most important key.

Mini dynasty? Ugh. Just for the record, Rubio did play all last season on a team that underachieved, you can't claim he wasn't at least partially responsible. Even a healthy Rubio is still behind most point guards in the west. Rubio should be like your 4th best player at most if your a playoff team in the west

guest81 · Post #308 » by **guest81** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:00 pm

Basti wrote:
Nitroglycerin wrote:Whats Im impressed about him is his durability. He's playing almost 40 minutes a game, guarding the best player on the opponent team and drops 20 points easily. And he's healthy

I really wonder when he'll hit the rookie wall. I mean, he's an athletic freak and all but it still has to happen at some point.

by rookie wall do you mean automatic injury from playing on the Wolves? Because a torn ACL for Wiggins is pretty overdue by now

Post #309 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:04 pm

Andrew Wiggins: 14 20+ point games in 39 games as a rookie
Kevin Garnett: 6 20+ point games in 80 games as a rookie

Post #310 » by **Domejandro** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 5:19 pm

guest81 wrote:Mini dynasty? Ugh. Just for the record, Rubio did play all last season on a team that underachieved, you can't claim he wasn't at least partially responsible. Even a healthy Rubio is still behind most point guards in the west. Rubio should be like your 4th best player at most if your a playoff team in the west

I still feel that we would have made the playoffs if it was not for J.J..

That aside, Rubio can develop into a better player, but his main value is increasing everyone else's value. I feel having a dynamic of Rubio and Dieng will really allow for Wiggins to thrive.

I am flaunting a lot of false optimism, but I do believe that we are lined up well.

Post #311 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:37 pm

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Killboard · Post #313 » by **Killboard** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 9:20 am

http://youtu.be/YmyWimQeU90?t=1m44s
This step back remeber me other guy who was dominating 30 years ago. Just saying...

Sothron · Post #314 » by **Sothron** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:09 pm

I just pray Wiggins is the one superstar we can keep on this team.

Post #315 » by **Klomp** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:41 pm

Sothron wrote:I just pray Wiggins is the one superstar we can keep on this team.

You realize we had Garnett for 12 seasons, right? Sure he didn't play his entire career for just us, but how often does that even happen any more?

Post #316 » by **C.lupus** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 5:52 pm

And the FO had to practically push him out the door. He would have played out his career here if it were up to him. The failure was building a team around Garnett, not Garnett wanting to stay. That will be Flip's responsibility with Wiggins, too.

Sothron · Post #317 » by **Sothron** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 7:48 pm

Klomp wrote:
Sothron wrote:I just pray Wiggins is the one superstar we can keep on this team.

You realize we had Garnett for 12 seasons, right? Sure he didn't play his entire career for just us, but how often does that even happen any more?

Hey, a rabbit can dream right? I want to keep a superstar player their entire career with us. It isn't as often as is used to be but it still happens.

Flight33 · Post #318 » by **Flight33** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:21 pm

Kirk Goldsberry from Grantland article on Wiggins:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/andrew-wiggins-kevin-love-timberwolves-rookies/

theGreatRC · Post #319 » by **theGreatRC** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:09 pm

Flight33 wrote:Kirk Goldsberry from Grantland article on Wiggins:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/andrew-wiggins-kevin-love-timberwolves-rookies/

I love Andrew so much.

Esohny · Post #320 » by **Esohny** » Tue Jan 27, 2015 5:57 pm

A very...interesting...thread about Wiggins from the Raptors board.

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