Do any of you ever question if your Packers love is irrational?

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Yes I've tormented over this loss more than one of my best friends jumping off the Hoen on July 4th weekend after talking to me about how depressed he was at my BBQ for hours 2 days prior, I am truly an awful human being.

This feeling is not so uncommon - there are people absolutely devastated over this. The fact that we were this close to elation, and that being taken away by a series of anti-miraculous events, is so foundationally confusing.

That 2-point conversion was pretty miraculous IMO.

Of all of the things which happened in the collapse, even more than the botched onside kick, that two point conversion by Seattle is the most hard to believe and stomach. Clinton Dix goes from making great plays all game, then somehow can't knock down a wounded duck pass in the end zone which was floating in the air for what felt like about 10 seconds and that would have left us with a win after the Crosby FG instead of a tie game. Wilson runs and spins about 15 yards backwards as Peppers is hitting him. He somehow manages to throw this high arching pass all the way across the field with Dix not far behind the receiver. Dix then moves around with a mix of looking drunk and as if he was staring into a bright sun which in reality didn't exist, so the ball ends up being caught.

After that play happened i remember rewinding it a bunch of times and still couldn't fathom how the conversion managed to be completed? You could hypothetically put Russell Wilson on that spot of the field 100 times running backwards, with Peppers closing in on him, then hitting Wilson, him being way off balance, throwing a lob all the way across the field just in the general direction of a Seattle jersey, Dix being right by the Seattle TE, and they might not complete it more than that one time. Had that been a game winning TD instead, it would go down in NFL infamy.

So for all of the attention Bostick rightly got for inexplicably deciding on the most important onside kick of the season to pass on blocking as he'd done on other onside kicks and instead trying on that day to catch the ball, had the ridiculously crazy two point conversion not been completed, the Crosby FG wins the game in exciting fashion.

Agreed - there were a few miraculous events, but I called them "anti", because they were inflicted against us.

On that conversion (I could only stomach watching it once), it initially looked like Wilson was just forced to throw it away, which caused me to let up on my viewing scrutiny. Then, just as I realized that the ball was slowly making its way to a Seahawk, it looks like HHCD realized it too and got there too late - it was as though he thought there was no chance it gets completed either.

Just one testicle kick after another.

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I fear that the Packers treat this as an unavoidable "Act of God" type situation and decide not to change anything in their approach.

It's funny you mention this because the first few days after the game I thought that this loss would almost certainly either haunt the Packers and have a hangover effect,or it would kind of wake them up to change their mentality and be a springboard to do some special things moving forward.

But now that the emotion of the loss is starting to wear off and the fog is lifting I was thinking the same thing you said here.

If there was ever a team that could choke this bad in such a big game and it would have no effect on them either negatively or positively it would be this Packer team.I guess it's good in that this loss probably won't be a cloud over their head that will have a negative effect,but it also probably means we'll go 12-4 again or maybe 11-5 and see the same old **** in the playoffs.

The hangover fear is certainly there. Just like Sherman started to lose his team after 4th and 26, the very real possibility exists that the players' buy-in may not be as 100% as it has been. A little dissent here and there is the difference between success and failure.

Or it could be that the "dumb luck" rationalization is used and nothing changes. The x factor for improvement is Rodgers - if he starts to vocalize opposition to MM's conservative strategy, then we may see things change. And he's probably the only one good enough to go off-script and be successful.

It's still a surreal thing to be having this conversation.