Playoff Race (with updated Hollinger odds)

Mr Puddles · Post #61 » by **Mr Puddles** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:15 am

SF88 wrote:Clippers have such a big lead already, I doubt it.

Clippers lead is roughly the same as the Suns' lead over OKC and NO. Plus the Suns have two home games remaining against the Clippers so shrinking down that lead to 1 1/2 games is in their own hands. I don't think the Clippers' lead is too large to overcome at all.

I'm not saying that the Suns will definitely overtake the Clippers, I'm just saying that the conversation about the Western Conference playoffs seems to be largely a discussion about three teams competing for the 8th spot and that I think the LAC should be included in that conversation.

Just like this current homestand will be defining for the Suns moving forward, that 8 game road trip the Clippers have coming up will be instrumental for them as well, they could very well lose 5-6 games on that trip.

Revived · Post #62 » by **Revived** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:44 am

Lol you guys need to see this

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Flying Colors · Post #63 » by **Flying Colors** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:56 am

SF88 wrote:Lol you guys need to see this

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1368051

makes me wonder if Suns ends up wining a number of the next 8 games, will they even get any credit for it

spanishninja · Post #64 » by **spanishninja** » Wed Jan 21, 2015 11:28 pm

tanking to the suns would really only benefit the Warriors, whom I see beating out either Suns or OKC anyway.

JTrain · Post #65 » by **JTrain** » Thu Jan 22, 2015 6:48 am

Hate to be that guy, but if the league office has any subtle influence down the stretch, they will want OKC-GSW 1000x more than PHX-GSW. Thunders-Warriors would probably be the highest rated 1v8 series ever.

spanishninja · Post #66 » by **spanishninja** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:17 am

huge news: LMA is out 6-8 weeks apparently.

https://twitter.com/jadande/status/5584 ... 56/photo/1

will this be enough to open up an extra spot for both us and OKC?

Revived · Post #67 » by **Revived** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:39 am

I think if our schedule was easier, I'd say definitely.

Even still, it's a possibility. We need to keep winning while hopefully POR loses a lot.

Post #68 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:42 am

spanishninja wrote:huge news: LMA is out 6-8 weeks apparently.

https://twitter.com/jadande/status/5584 ... 56/photo/1

will this be enough to open up an extra spot for both us and OKC?

So that is probably about 20 games, which means they probably go from about 14 wins to maybe 10 or 11 over that span, so they should move down maybe 3-4 games...so they may be the team we have a crack at catching.

Post #69 » by **bwgood77** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:47 am

SF88 wrote:I think if our schedule was easier, I'd say definitely.

Even still, it's a possibility. We need to keep winning while hopefully POR loses a lot.

I like your last sentence. You think?

The thing about our schedule is that we have I believe the 4th toughest schedule but anyone outside of the top 9-10 other than us are the ones that likely have the tough schedules (except maybe the Lakers because I think theirs has been pretty tough which could help our chances at their pick, though I'm certain they will win the lottery and get Okafor) because the top of the west is so stacked that you are going to have a very tough schedule if you are not one of the top 7 of the west because they have such phenomenal records. I bet the top 7 in the west have NEVER had this good of records at this point in the season.

Aside from that, I think we bring it against the good teams and relax against the bad ones so I don't think a tough schedule is any more scary for our team than an easy one.

I was going to say something else I thought was pretty relevant but forgot so I may edit so check back in case I do if you read quickly.

Revived · Post #70 » by **Revived** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 2:50 am

bwgood77 wrote:
SF88 wrote:I think if our schedule was easier, I'd say definitely.

Even still, it's a possibility. We need to keep winning while hopefully POR loses a lot.

I like your last sentence. You think?

The thing about our schedule is that we have I believe the 4th toughest schedule but anyone outside of the top 9-10 other than us are the ones that likely have the tough schedules (except maybe the Lakers because I think theirs has been pretty tough which could help our chances at their pick, though I'm certain they will win the lottery and get Okafor) because the top of the west is so stacked that you are going to have a very tough schedule if you are not one of the top 7 of the west because they have such phenomenal records. I bet the top 7 in the west have NEVER had this good of records at this point in the season.

Aside from that, I think we bring it against the good teams and relax against the bad ones so I don't think a tough schedule is any more scary for our team than an easy one.

I was going to say something else I thought was pretty relevant but forgot so I may edit so check back in case I do if you read quickly.

I'm gonna hold you to that.

JTrain · Post #71 » by **JTrain** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 3:46 am

Looking at Portland's next 21 games (which would put him at a March 15 comeback at Toronto) it would not surprise me at all to see them go 9-12. They have a lot of tough west teams along with Cleveland and Atlanta. If we can go up by 25 against them playing decently on offense, other teams will do the same (but not let them back in like we did).

But that would still put them at 40-24, which would likely be better than us, unless we really play lights out the next three weeks.

I think a better chance is for SA, Dallas or Houston to fall apart from injury or Josh Smith.

spanishninja · Post #72 » by **spanishninja** » Fri Jan 23, 2015 4:10 am

we're just a game behing SA after their loss.

JTrain · Post #73 » by **JTrain** » Sat Jan 24, 2015 7:38 pm

LMA playing tonight.

:cry:

Revived · Post #74 » by **Revived** » Sun Jan 25, 2015 6:29 am

So much for the Suns possibly catching Portland.

LMA is back and had a better game than all our bigs usually do when their completely healthy.

NavLDO · Post #75 » by **NavLDO** » Sun Jan 25, 2015 8:43 pm

JTrain wrote:Hate to be that guy, but if the league office has any subtle influence down the stretch, they will want OKC-GSW 1000x more than PHX-GSW. Thunders-Warriors would probably be the highest rated 1v8 series ever.

That's fine; we'll be happy to take the 7th seed then! 8-)

SunsRback4Good · Post #76 » by **SunsRback4Good** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:21 am

What is our percentage of making the playoffs?

Never mind, I see it on the first page.

JTrain · Post #77 » by **JTrain** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 3:40 pm

AtheJ415 · Post #78 » by **AtheJ415** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:44 pm

I find the Hollinger odds somewhat hilarious. Suns were 60% last week. Lose 2 games, one they were not favored in and another they were barely favored in, while OKC loses to 2 inferior opponents, and our odds drop in half while NO in particular skyrockets despite not taking advantage of their easy schedule, dropping to NYC and Philly? LMFAO.

JTrain · Post #79 » by **JTrain** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:35 pm

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-fWDrZSiZs[/youtube]

Post #80 » by **bwgood77** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 6:53 pm

AtheJ415 wrote:I find the Hollinger odds somewhat hilarious. Suns were 60% last week. Lose 2 games, one they were not favored in and another they were barely favored in, while OKC loses to 2 inferior opponents, and our odds drop in half while NO in particular skyrockets despite not taking advantage of their easy schedule, dropping to NYC and Philly? LMFAO.

Part of those odds are based on the teams ahead of us, as some of our chances (as well as the team's below us) include some percentage of chance a team above us drops out. My guess is they all won, dropping those odds.