Ohm: Sliding Nets evaluating Lionel Hollins

[Paradise]

This team is currently shooting 36.5% on wide open shots 10 feet and beyond and 29% on open looks from 4-6 feet. Last season? The Nets shot 39.5% on wide open looks 10 feet out and 36% in 4-6 feet shots. So, Is Hollins forcing them to purposely miss wide open looks?

Here is our shot distribution over the last three seasons.

2012 Season:

1-5 ft: 57% (2,264 attempts)
5-9 ft: 41% (844 attempts)
10-14 ft: 39% (529 attempts)
15-19 ft: 41% (882 attempts)
20-24 ft: 37% (1,340 attempts)

Assisted: 1,668 FGA
Unassisted: 1,274 FGA

LAST SEASON:

1-5 ft: 59% (2,017 attempts)
5-9 ft: 42% (715 attempts)
10-14 ft: 42% (573 attempts)
15-19 ft: 40% (889 attempts)
20-24 ft: 39% (1,289 attempts)

Assisted: 1,714 FGA
Unassisted: 1,217 FGA

THIS SEASON:

1-5 ft: 58% (1,126 attempts)
5-9 ft: 45% (490 attempts)
10-14 ft: 40% (314 attempts)
15-19 ft: 38% (547 attempts)
20-24 ft: 34% (708 attempts)

Assisted: 900 FGA
Unassisted: 683 FGA

Final Verdict? Three seasons in and the offensive shot attempts are on pace to be nearly identical with three to four different coaches.

The funny part is everyone keeps claiming we are running a 'Grizzlies style' offense but we're not. The entire offensive concepts are supposed to be based off the flex offense which he installed for Deron to thrive in. Deron was gloating in training camp about how well he was familiar to the offensive concepts Hollins installed and how much he liked him. Yet, Deron has been so pathetic he is forced to come off the bench along with Lopez. Last time I checked this is the SECOND season in a row that our 100 million dollar man has been coming off the bench due to either an injury or poor play due the emergence of another PG in his absence.

Are you seriously pinning this teams problems on Deron? You know the team is 2-9 since he went out, right? You do know the offense is average to above average when he's on the court, right? He is the least to blame on the offensive end even with his crummy shooting. And Jack has been the worst PG to recieve 25+ minutes a night, has the worst plus minus of any PG to recieve regular minutes and it isn't even close. Do you honestly think Jack is starting because he's been better than Deron? And if Hollins thinks Jack is the better option despite all the evidence saying otherwise then maybe his ass should get fired.

I'm not pinning our recent issues on Deron but he wasn't good before the rib injury either. Jack sucks but he still has more 20/8/50% games than Deron does all season. What else needs to be said?

[Paradise]

http://patternofbasketball.blogspot.com/2014/12/jason-kidd-player-coach.html

Once again, Kidd was one step ahead of everyone else, getting out of town before everything went south. If he had stayed in Brooklyn, he would have had the thankless job looming ahead for Lionel Hollins, who will have to keep the team competitive as they try to rebuild on the fly. It's the type of situation that ends up getting a coach fired, something Kidd well understood. Instead, he gets to coach one of the most up-and-coming young teams in the Eastern Conference. It's almost as if he wanted to be fired by the Nets so that he could coach the Bucks!

Like Pierce and Livingston, Kidd could see the writing on the wall. The New York media had it completely backwards. It wasn't that Kidd needed a job from the Bucks because he was fired by the Nets - Kidd was fired from the Nets because he wanted a job from the Bucks. In essence, he had a better offer waiting him, but first he needed to get fired from his existing job. If that sounds familiar, it's because it was ripped directly off a plot from Seinfeld, when George Costanza is trying to get fired from the New York Yankees.

Billy King wanted to be able to blame Jason Kidd for whatever happened to the Nets this season and Kidd wasn't going to sit there and take the fall for someone else's mistakes.

Kidd may be a snake, but let's see anyone now even remotely find fault in his actions this summer.

Any one of us would have done the same damn thing. Hollins is now being thrown under the bus in public for the mistakes of ownership and their meely mouthed GM

Livingston left because he was looking to get his first NBA pay day which we could not offer and Pierce was looking for 10+ million to stay here.

[MrDollarBills]

Watching the first 5 mins of Chicago vs. Golden State has been more exciting than any Nets game i've seen in the last 5 years. I'm talking Kidd and Carter vs. the Phoenix suns from a few years ago level, pure skill and scoring being displayed. Haven't seen that kind of pride and competency in YEARS. I miss those days, seriously. I'd gladly take a line up of Krstic/Collins/Jefferson/Carter/Kidd from 2005 over this.

**** this **** man. we are wasting our time with the Nets.

[Shook Jones]

On the Nets roster who gets steals at 1/2 court? Who rebounds the ball and pushes for a fast break?

Who's the fastest player on the Nets???

Evaluate this trash team!

[jeff1624]

This team is currently shooting 36.5% on wide open shots 10 feet and beyond and 29% on open looks from 4-6 feet. Last season? The Nets shot 39.5% on wide open looks 10 feet out and 36% in 4-6 feet shots. So, Is Hollins forcing them to purposely miss wide open looks?

Here is our shot distribution over the last three seasons.

2012 Season:

1-5 ft: 57% (2,264 attempts)
5-9 ft: 41% (844 attempts)
10-14 ft: 39% (529 attempts)
15-19 ft: 41% (882 attempts)
20-24 ft: 37% (1,340 attempts)

Assisted: 1,668 FGA
Unassisted: 1,274 FGA

LAST SEASON:

1-5 ft: 59% (2,017 attempts)
5-9 ft: 42% (715 attempts)
10-14 ft: 42% (573 attempts)
15-19 ft: 40% (889 attempts)
20-24 ft: 39% (1,289 attempts)

Assisted: 1,714 FGA
Unassisted: 1,217 FGA

THIS SEASON:

1-5 ft: 58% (1,126 attempts)
5-9 ft: 45% (490 attempts)
10-14 ft: 40% (314 attempts)
15-19 ft: 38% (547 attempts)
20-24 ft: 34% (708 attempts)

Assisted: 900 FGA
Unassisted: 683 FGA

Final Verdict? Three seasons in and the offensive shot attempts are on pace to be nearly identical with three to four different coaches.

The funny part is everyone keeps claiming we are running a 'Grizzlies style' offense but we're not. The entire offensive concepts are supposed to be based off the flex offense which he installed for Deron to thrive in. Deron was gloating in training camp about how well he was familiar to the offensive concepts Hollins installed and how much he liked him. Yet, Deron has been so pathetic he is forced to come off the bench along with Lopez. Last time I checked this is the SECOND season in a row that our 100 million dollar man has been coming off the bench due to either an injury or poor play due the emergence of another PG in his absence.

Are you seriously pinning this teams problems on Deron? You know the team is 2-9 since he went out, right? You do know the offense is average to above average when he's on the court, right? He is the least to blame on the offensive end even with his crummy shooting. And Jack has been the worst PG to receive 25+ minutes a night, has the worst plus minus of any PG to recieve regular minutes and it isn't even close. Do you honestly think Jack is starting because he's been better than Deron? And if Hollins thinks Jack is the better option despite all the evidence saying otherwise then maybe his ass should get fired.

I'm not pinning our recent issues on Deron but he wasn't good before the rib injury either. Jack sucks but he still has more 20/8/50% games than Deron does all season. What else needs to be said?

So? The team is 15 point worse when Jack plays. It isn't all about raw box score numbers. The team is so much better with Deron on the floor and that isn't even arguable.

I know Deron has been a failure for this team, but because he isn't superstar people want to equate him as a bad player. He's far from it.

[jeff1624]

This team is currently shooting 36.5% on wide open shots 10 feet and beyond and 29% on open looks from 4-6 feet. Last season? The Nets shot 39.5% on wide open looks 10 feet out and 36% in 4-6 feet shots. So, Is Hollins forcing them to purposely miss wide open looks?

Here is our shot distribution over the last three seasons.

2012 Season:

1-5 ft: 57% (2,264 attempts)
5-9 ft: 41% (844 attempts)
10-14 ft: 39% (529 attempts)
15-19 ft: 41% (882 attempts)
20-24 ft: 37% (1,340 attempts)

Assisted: 1,668 FGA
Unassisted: 1,274 FGA

LAST SEASON:

1-5 ft: 59% (2,017 attempts)
5-9 ft: 42% (715 attempts)
10-14 ft: 42% (573 attempts)
15-19 ft: 40% (889 attempts)
20-24 ft: 39% (1,289 attempts)

Assisted: 1,714 FGA
Unassisted: 1,217 FGA

THIS SEASON:

1-5 ft: 58% (1,126 attempts)
5-9 ft: 45% (490 attempts)
10-14 ft: 40% (314 attempts)
15-19 ft: 38% (547 attempts)
20-24 ft: 34% (708 attempts)

Assisted: 900 FGA
Unassisted: 683 FGA

Final Verdict? Three seasons in and the offensive shot attempts are on pace to be nearly identical with three to four different coaches.

The funny part is everyone keeps claiming we are running a 'Grizzlies style' offense but we're not. The entire offensive concepts are supposed to be based off the flex offense which he installed for Deron to thrive in. Deron was gloating in training camp about how well he was familiar to the offensive concepts Hollins installed and how much he liked him. Yet, Deron has been so pathetic he is forced to come off the bench along with Lopez. Last time I checked this is the SECOND season in a row that our 100 million dollar man has been coming off the bench due to either an injury or poor play due the emergence of another PG in his absence.

Are you seriously pinning this teams problems on Deron? You know the team is 2-9 since he went out, right? You do know the offense is average to above average when he's on the court, right? He is the least to blame on the offensive end even with his crummy shooting. And Jack has been the worst PG to recieve 25+ minutes a night, has the worst plus minus of any PG to recieve regular minutes and it isn't even close. Do you honestly think Jack is starting because he's been better than Deron? And if Hollins thinks Jack is the better option despite all the evidence saying otherwise then maybe his ass should get fired.

It is will documented that we are better with Deron.

The question is, did Deron outplay Jack when he WAS healthy to gain his starting spot back?

NO.

Deron is the definition of a "DOG IT" player.

Deron kept coming off the bench because our second quarter issues were essentially resolved because he can actually lead/run an offense. Not because Jack was having a better effect on the team.

[Prokorov]

It is will documented that we are better with Deron.

The question is, did Deron outplay Jack when he WAS healthy to gain his starting spot back?

NO.

Deron is the definition of a "DOG IT" player.

Deron might not be the problem... but he certainly hasnt been part of the solution either. And whether we are better with him or not is irrelevant since he cant get on the court right now. either way, he should be one of if not this teams best player and capable of leading us to a playoff spot. whether he is off the court hurt or on it and not outplaying opposing PGs either way he isnt getting the job done

[Prokorov]

On the Nets roster who gets steals at 1/2 court? Who rebounds the ball and pushes for a fast break?

Who's the fastest player on the Nets???

Evaluate this trash team!

plumlee? not much after that

[Prokorov]

Are you seriously pinning this teams problems on Deron? You know the team is 2-9 since he went out, right? You do know the offense is average to above average when he's on the court, right? He is the least to blame on the offensive end even with his crummy shooting. And Jack has been the worst PG to recieve 25+ minutes a night, has the worst plus minus of any PG to recieve regular minutes and it isn't even close. Do you honestly think Jack is starting because he's been better than Deron? And if Hollins thinks Jack is the better option despite all the evidence saying otherwise then maybe his ass should get fired.

It is will documented that we are better with Deron.

The question is, did Deron outplay Jack when he WAS healthy to gain his starting spot back?

NO.

Deron is the definition of a "DOG IT" player.

Deron kept coming off the bench because our second quarter issues were essentially resolved because he can actually lead/run an offense. Not because Jack was having a better effect on the team.

The problem isnt so much that deron is out... the problem is we had to replace deron with a dleaguer in morris.

if you swapped dwill with jack and had morris backing him up we would be just as bad