JV on pace to do what only 8 centers have done

[WeTheNorth77]

But, But, But

Demar makes a big impact....

What does this have to do with Demar? Like for real u just start up **** when there is nothing there. Turn something good into something bad. Like come on bro

[Hero]

oh, thats why we sit him on the bench in the 4th

I think he is benched in the 4th because he is significantly worse than any of the guys on the list on defense. Casey just doesn't trust JV on defense.

What made the other guys on this list special was that they were bringing it on both sides of the court. JV is playing really well offensively but not defensively.

[Kenyon009]

Casey should be fired. Just cos the team's doing good in a realllly weak East where we've gotten lucky with some key teams getting injured. I feel that Karl or Thibs would make the team even better. His Bargnani hell or high water BS, to Arron Gray setting a pick on his own player for Kobe, etc.

[DemarEvolution]

I love how it turns in to a Casey hate thread...Not even a huge Casey fan but it's so predictable what every JV thread is going to turn in to.

and rightfully so.

[ForeverTFC]

If I'm not mistaken, JV has also had the best DRtg on the team since Demar has come back. Couple his offensive efficiency with his rebounding percentage that puts him amongst the top of the list, and it's hard not to get excited.

[Steelo Green]

But, But, But

Demar makes a big impact....

He does, or have you not noticed the amazing difference in DRTG since he's back.

[dacrusha]

Casey should be thrown out of the team plane while in flight and then his family members should be brought out to Maple Leaf Square for some kind of public shaming.

That's how mad I am that he has worked so hard to keep JV at 27 MPG.

[Snooch]

But, But, But

Demar makes a big impact....

He does, or have you not noticed the amazing difference in DRTG since he's back.

lol

nothing to do with lesser competition and fewer minutes for ROss and GV.

[OakleyDokely]

[Kenyon009]

Casey should be fired. Just cos the team's doing good in a realllly weak East where we've gotten lucky with some key teams getting injured. I feel that Karl or Thibs would make the team even better. His Bargnani hell or high water BS, to Arron Gray setting a pick on his own player for Kobe, etc.

[ForeverTFC]

Casey should be fired. Just cos the team's doing good in a realllly weak East where we've gotten lucky with some key teams getting injured. I feel that Karl or Thibs would make the team even better. His Bargnani hell or high water BS, to Arron Gray setting a pick on his own player for Kobe, etc.

Karl is all O. Thibs has run his players into the ground every year as a coach.

Look at the guys succeeding right now. Kerr, Joerger, Budenholzer. Even Kidd is doing a heck of a job. The coaching world is evolving. No need for the same tired names. I'd rather Casey than Thibs or Karl.

[Steelo Green]

But, But, But

Demar makes a big impact....

He does, or have you not noticed the amazing difference in DRTG since he's back.

lol

nothing to do with lesser competition and fewer minutes for ROss and GV.

Why do Ross an GV have less minutes? Oh, right...

Also lesser competition? Atlanta, Milwaukee and Memphis are all good teams we faced since he's been back, and when he left, we were letting awful teams score at will against us too.

Sample size in terms of facing good teams is an issue, but our D has been that much better with more Demar, and less GV and Ross.

Nice try though.

[Dalek]

The obvious thing I noticed from the data is that JV is well behind in minutes compared to other players, and also rebounds. The rebound concern for me is that even if we increase his minutes I don't think he is anywhere on par with those centres, outside of Brook Lopez.

The other thing to consider before people start the "fire Casey" momentum, is that his efficiency likely takes a hit the more possessions go through him. Right now he is taking care of the small number of touches he gets, but at 22, he might not be able to take more touches and be efficient, while maintaining important defensive focus. It is not like JV just jumps and dunks it over people like Drummond or Howard. He has to use footwork and skill to get his shot off.

[Shwaguy]

But, But, But

Demar makes a big impact....

Why can't both be good? There was no mention of DeMar here as last I checked he is not a centre. we have both (And Lowry).

In short; Shut the **** up ya dumb ass troll.

they both arent good, JV is good and growing to be great, Demar is adequate and striving to be subpar.

you are simply incorrect. I know you'll never see that though so I'm not gonna get into it anymore

[alevirfe]

I swear someone should make a petition to ban Snooch & Danchan. They are obvious trolls and just simply terrible and uninformed posters. I don't mind knocking a player if it's backed up by any sense/stat, but these guys clearly do not understand basketball and simply grasp at straws.

[Clementine9]

The obvious thing I noticed from the data is that JV is well behind in minutes compared to other players, and also rebounds. The rebound concern for me is that even if we increase his minutes I don't think he is anywhere on par with those centres, outside of Brook Lopez.

The other thing to consider before people start the "fire Casey" momentum, is that his efficiency likely takes a hit the more possessions go through him. Right now he is taking care of the small number of touches he gets, but at 22, he might not be able to take more touches and be efficient, while maintaining important defensive focus. It is not like JV just jumps and dunks it over people like Drummond or Howard. He has to use footwork and skill to get his shot off.

His efficiency has stayed the same as his USG has increased, and his turnovers have gone down. So no reason to think that's an issue. The issue will be the adjustment if we focused on him more, meaning defenses would. Needs to learn how to pass out of the post better , which would also involve adjusting how we post him up. Can't just clear out completely after giving him the ball. Also, he has a good rebounding %. Total rebounds doesn't really tell you much if you're not factoring time played.

The only issue with JV on the floor is the defense. It looked better to begin the season but the last month it has been atrocious. Last few games though, good. It's mind boggling to me. I think he basically needs to lose weight because he can't guard anything mid range and beyond. He's allowed to have defensive weaknesses, but they can't be hugely exploitable. Right now dragging him out of the paint is very exploitable. Not too worried about that though because I think once he sheds some weight he'll be fine. He'll be an average defender at his floor.

Issue though is that we have a center who is offensively talented, on a team that doesn't really want to use its bigs too much- or at least consistently- on the offensive end. So his development there has kind of been slowed. While he learns to play better defense, he's basically just taking up space on the floor. Isn't used a heck of a lot where he can be effective, and then is a negative on the defensive end for now. Tough situation.

[Clementine9]

I swear someone should make a petition to ban Snooch & Danchan. They are obvious trolls and just simply terrible and uninformed posters. I don't mind knocking a player if it's backed up by any sense/stat, but these guys clearly do not understand basketball and simply grasp at straws.

Not sure why Demar is even relevant to this. I'd just ignore them.

[ForeverTFC]

The obvious thing I noticed from the data is that JV is well behind in minutes compared to other players, and also rebounds. The rebound concern for me is that even if we increase his minutes I don't think he is anywhere on par with those centres, outside of Brook Lopez.

The other thing to consider before people start the "fire Casey" momentum, is that his efficiency likely takes a hit the more possessions go through him. Right now he is taking care of the small number of touches he gets, but at 22, he might not be able to take more touches and be efficient, while maintaining important defensive focus. It is not like JV just jumps and dunks it over people like Drummond or Howard. He has to use footwork and skill to get his shot off.

He is one of the best rebounders in the league.

Valanciunas is also grabbing the same percent of contested rebounds as Marc Gasol, Kenneth Faried and Dwight Howard, and among the league leaders in rebounding opportunities despite only playing 26 minutes a game.

http://www.raptorsrepublic.com/2015/01/07/big-problem/

[Steelo Green]

The obvious thing I noticed from the data is that JV is well behind in minutes compared to other players, and also rebounds. The rebound concern for me is that even if we increase his minutes I don't think he is anywhere on par with those centres, outside of Brook Lopez.

The other thing to consider before people start the "fire Casey" momentum, is that his efficiency likely takes a hit the more possessions go through him. Right now he is taking care of the small number of touches he gets, but at 22, he might not be able to take more touches and be efficient, while maintaining important defensive focus. It is not like JV just jumps and dunks it over people like Drummond or Howard. He has to use footwork and skill to get his shot off.

The TRB% is 18.6, ORB% 11.2% and DRB% is 26.1, not saying he will ever be at that level but by comparison to the others:

Career TRB%:

Shaq-17.8 (Best 20.6)
Dwight- 20.7 (Best 22)
Hakeem- 17.2 (Best 19.9)
Yao- 16.5 (Best 17.5)
Demarcus-19.2 (Best 21)

Career DRB%:

Shaq-23.6 (Best 27.1)
Dwight- 29.1 (Best 33.1)
Hakeem- 23.8 (Best 28.8)
Yao- 23.3 (Best 25.6)
Demarcus- 27.4 (Best 30.5)

Career ORB%

Shaq- 11.7 (Best 13.5)
Dwight- 11.8 (13.8)
Hakeem - 10.3 (Best 16.9)
Yao- 9.3 (Best 10.2)
Demarcus- 11.4 (Best 14.2)

Now by comparison to those guys he's right in the middle of the TRB%, same with DRB% and same with ORB%. You talk of Brook, but by the numbers he is not even near these guys in terms of grabbing boards.

Brook TRB% 12.9 (Best 15.8), DRB% 16.5 (Best 21), ORB% 9.5 (Best 10.8)

I don't see how more minutes will decrease the %ages.

He by comparison, even if he is at the bottom of all but Brook will still be elite. If he can fix up his defence, it is scary to think what he could be. Given his age we really should see Val as the real key to the future.

[Flight33]

If we ever want to win championships here, it starts with JV.