Possibility of signing Gasol + Dragic

5ertwenty · Post #1 » by **5ertwenty** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 12:11 am

There's literally no way either Gasol or Dragic signs with us next season. I just don't see them leaving a playoff team for a loser.

BUT -- If there were some way we could snag them both, and sell them on the fact that they would be forming a pretty formidable tandem going forward, then I believe their ears would prick up and they would be highly intrigued by joining forces and being the face of a new Laker dream. If we are able to retain our pick and it's top 5, things become even more intriguing for them.

I know we are financially flexible next season. Is it a possibility to sign both Gasol AND Dragic or am I pipe dreaming?

Post #2 » by **dockingsched** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:16 am

Lakers don't have enough cap to afford both, really not much more to it than that

Post #3 » by **Slava** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:52 am

Even if we sign both, unless Randle and whoever we pick turn out to be great from day.1, they'll both be in better situations with their current franchises.

MAMBAEMD · Post #4 » by **MAMBAEMD** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:01 am

An intersting question is if we had the opportunity to sign one or the other, which one would we want to build around.
I'd prefer Gasol to build around.
I think it is much more likely for both to stay with their current team, but of the two, Dragic is slightly more likely to leave

ALL HAIL · Post #5 » by **ALL HAIL** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:05 am

Most players just want to win. If they can win in Memphis or OKC or San Antonio, it doesn't too much matter for most proven players ... they just want win.

The history of the Lakers means nothing if they cannot put out a proven product (team).

Any proven player that comes here with the team in shambles would probably only be coming for "brand marketing" purposes (ie. Amar'e Stoudamire in NY).

Drones · Post #6 » by **Drones** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:15 am

Gasol is much less likely than Dragic. The pitch to Dragic is that he would have free rein of the offense, and not have to share with two other PGs on a team where every guy has the greenlight to shoot all the time.

Gasol on the other hand is on too good of a team in the only American city he's ever lived in. And quite frankly I'm ok with the Lakers not maxing out a 30 year old.

cashflo · Post #7 » by **cashflo** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 2:39 am

Gasol came into the league at an old age... I didn't realize he was that old already.
KLove because of his age would be the way to go this offseason.

dipstick · Post #8 » by **dipstick** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:08 am

FA class seems to be very thin. I agree that landing Dragic would be more possible than Gasol. I doubt we get both. At the end of the day, it depends on who we get in the draft. I wouldn't mind getting Dragic and Asik on a reasonable contract then try to make a splash in 2016 for that final piece.

Laker_Kid · Post #9 » by **Laker_Kid** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:02 am

I think Dragic is definitely within reach... if not Gasol, what about Monroe? Although I think he's already cemented his position with the Pistons, and the way they've been playing, i too doubt he would still leave unless their management low balls him. I would really like to get an experience and proven C though. Who else is there? Randle and top 5 C is just too inexperienced... i wouldnt mind it though if it came to it.

Pointgod · Post #10 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:04 am

I have no idea why people think we have any chance at Gasol. There's literally zero chance he even looks the Lakers way. Second we can't afford to sign both Dragic and Gasol so again pipe dreams.

Laker_Kid · Post #11 » by **Laker_Kid** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:09 am

Pointgod wrote:I have no idea why people think we have any chance at Gasol. There's literally zero chance he even looks the Lakers way. Second we can't afford to sign both Dragic and Gasol so again pipe dreams.

"because we're the Lakers"

SlimShady83 · Post #12 » by **SlimShady83** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:45 am

I don't care how good a player is, we should only be signing players who want to play for US.

And yes I used the word "WE & US" for any smart asses out there lol.

ALL HAIL · Post #13 » by **ALL HAIL** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:00 am

Laker_Kid wrote:I think Dragic is definitely within reach... if not Gasol, what about Monroe? Although I think he's already cemented his position with the Pistons, and the way they've been playing, i too doubt he would still leave unless their management low balls him. I would really like to get an experience and proven C though. Who else is there? Randle and top 5 C is just too inexperienced... i wouldnt mind it though if it came to it.

You draft an inexperienced center and trade for a center with more experience (Lopez).

Much like football when you build teams along the line of scrimmage, it's always most ideal to build teams with your big men. The Lakers did that with Vlade and Elden Campbell in the nineties, and the Hawks are doing it now with Horford/Milsap.

A year of Lopez at center as a youngster (like Towns) backs him up would solidify the center position and allow the Lakers to focus on signing a defensive small forward with toughness who can also shoot and rebound at an above average clip (I'm thinking DeMarre Carroll).

Laker_Kid · Post #14 » by **Laker_Kid** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 5:04 am

ALL HAIL wrote:
Laker_Kid wrote:I think Dragic is definitely within reach... if not Gasol, what about Monroe? Although I think he's already cemented his position with the Pistons, and the way they've been playing, i too doubt he would still leave unless their management low balls him. I would really like to get an experience and proven C though. Who else is there? Randle and top 5 C is just too inexperienced... i wouldnt mind it though if it came to it.

You draft an inexperienced center and trade for a center with more experience (Lopez).

Much like football when you build teams along the line of scrimmage, it's always most ideal to build teams with your big men. The Lakers did that with Vlade and Elden Campbell in the nineties, and the Hawks are doing it now with Horford/Milsap.

A year of Lopez at center as a youngster (like Towns) backs him up would solidify the center position and allow the Lakers to focus on signing a defensive small forward with toughness who can also shoot and rebound at an above average clip (I'm thinking DeMarre Carroll).

i'd steer clear from injury-prone players... i think we've had enough of the injury bug. but yeah, good point drafting and acquiring an experienced C.

Revived · Post #15 » by **Revived** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 10:01 am

Pau recently said that there is zero chance that Marc signs with Lakers unless Lakers ready to be title contenders

Dr Aki · Post #16 » by **Dr Aki** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:52 am

if the grizzlies get bumped early in the playoffs again? memphis is facing the possibility of facing the current 3rd to 7th seeds in the west

what do they say about the definition of insanity?

sometimes you just have to take a step back before you can move forward

the lakers have crazy amounts of capspace over the next two summers, and are hoping to parlay that capspace into 2-3 free agents along with their 2 lottery picks to build a contender and whatever 1sts they can extract from selling hill, davis, whoever...

Pointgod · Post #17 » by **Pointgod** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:06 pm

Dr Aki wrote:if the grizzlies get bumped early in the playoffs again? memphis is facing the possibility of facing the current 3rd to 7th seeds in the west

what do they say about the definition of insanity?

sometimes you just have to take a step back before you can move forward

the lakers have crazy amounts of capspace over the next two summers, and are hoping to parlay that capspace into 2-3 free agents along with their 2 lottery picks to build a contender and whatever 1sts they can extract from selling hill, davis, whoever...

If the Grizzlies get eliminated they'll change everything else about the team except for Gasol. There are about 3-4 teams that Gasol could resign with that would immediately put him in a better position than the Lakers. I think this team is more **** than most people think when we're expecting free agents to sign with us because of "lottery picks". It's looking more and more like a 5 year rebuilding plan versus a 2-3 year plan, only we don't have picks 2 of the 5 years. :banghead:

We have to take a couple chances if we hope to accelerate the rebuilding plan.

Penberthy · Post #18 » by **Penberthy** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 4:30 pm

"If the Grizzlies get eliminated they'll change everything else about the team except for Gasol"

If they do that, wouldn't that team be worse than say:

Jackson Clarkson
Kobe Nick Hou 1st
Wes Johnson Stanley Johnson
Randle Booz Kelly
Marc Black Sacre

And 2016 when kobes money becomes available for another star?

madmaxmedia · Post #19 » by **madmaxmedia** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:06 pm

Do the Grizzlies have other expiring contracts besides Gasol? If not, it seems more likely they work with Gasol to give him a good contract without too much cap penalty going forward.

They've built up a pretty good thing in Memphis, just because you lose a playoff series to another really good team doesn't mean you should blow it up. More likely they stay the course and keep looking for opportunities to improve year over year.

Post #20 » by **crazyeights** » Fri Jan 30, 2015 6:17 pm

Gasol is a long-shot based on how well Memphis has played this year, and how he's a rare star who has actually called Memphis home for much of his life.

Also, the Lakers crapped on his brother, so I'd imagine odds are he's not eager to help us out. And we're frankly not in the position to help him very much.

Dragic is more possible, but that depends on whether the Suns make the playoffs and how well he, IT, and EB are fitting in. The problem is Dragic's not exactly a spring chicken either, so he'll probably be looking to win as much as find a franchise to give him the keys (as a PG).