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Post#1021 » by Maroko » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:19 pm

dancing2thabeet wrote:I think at least we should get an assistant coach who specializes in offense.


I was looking for one for 3 years and they brought us Keith Smart... :nonono: :nonono: :nonono:
And to be honest, i was surprised we didnt get a new assistant coach in defense last summer, we have to reinvent ourself lol
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Post#1022 » by DefenseWins » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:56 pm

Kerr took all the good assistant coaches that's why
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Post#1023 » by Heat_Fan_87 » Sat Jan 31, 2015 5:59 pm

give me rothstein back. keith smart? foh
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Post#1024 » by Tim_Hardawayy » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:08 pm

Hassan should have been back in the game sooner, but this is a terrible team without Wade and Deng. The amount of blame being shifted entirely to the coach is not proportionate to just how awful this team is without those 2 guys on the court.

Its always like this though, read any team's board, every single loss is all the coaches fault. Spurs fans even hate Popovich, if you could believe that, and the entire Bulls board is ready to revolt on Thibs.

Prediction: James Ennis, Shabazz Napier, and Tyler Johnson will not be on an NBA roster in 5 years.
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Post#1025 » by Rock Hardy » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:43 pm

Slot Machine wrote:Do you ever debate with anything other than logical fallacies? You challenge people to name coaches they'd rather have just so you can "tell them how wrong they are." Do you realize how close-minded and ignorant that is?

You try to present yourself as rational and objective, but you're the opposite. You're a Spoelstra fan so of course you'd disagree with any coaching suggestions. The only difference between you and the annoying LeBron stans we used to have is that at least LeBron deserves to have fans. No coach or player is above criticism and definitely not Spo. Get a grip and learn how to actually respond with meaningful points instead of useless rhetoric paired with a condescending attitude.

You're rapidly becoming the worst poster this site has ever seen.

I haven't told anyone how wrong they are. The suggestion of Malone I replied to with follow up questions. I don't believe those have been answered. The Iowa coach I haven't said was wrong either. Don't jump to conclusions.

I'm not a Spo fan so much as I'm not an irrational hater who can't definitively say what he's doing wrong. We got a bunch of coaching experts here with zero credibility. You seem to view lack of derision as some show off support. It's not. I'm just willing to admit lack of knowledge and thus shut my mouth accordingly. I see nothing to gain from pretending to know what I don't. Get me?

I try to present myself as logical and rational because that's what I strive to be. I don't always get it right.

I think of you want to complain about a problem, there should be a solution in mind, otherwise it's just childish whining. In this case, it's uninformed childish whining, which is decidedly worse. People are free to react as they choose. I'm free to question the logic of said reactions. If I said I want Fizdale to replace Spo as coach, I'd expect someone to ask me why. If I can't explain why, I probably didn't think it through.

BTW, that last sentence you wrote is just plain dumb and wrong. You may disagree with me, but worst poster? The guy who tries to explain himself? Yeah, you're not taking this personally. Ha.
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Post#1026 » by BaffLer » Sat Jan 31, 2015 8:55 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Hassan should have been back in the game sooner, but this is a terrible team without Wade and Deng. The amount of blame being shifted entirely to the coach is not proportionate to just how awful this team is without those 2 guys on the court.

Its always like this though, read any team's board, every single loss is all the coaches fault. Spurs fans even hate Popovich, if you could believe that, and the entire Bulls board is ready to revolt on Thibs.

Prediction: James Ennis, Shabazz Napier, and Tyler Johnson will not be on an NBA roster in 5 years.

This.

The grass sure ain't always greener on the other side. Thibs is considered a top 5 coach in this league. And a lot of people would rank him over Spo even with Spo's 2 championships and 4 finals appearances. But just reading the Bulls board after a loss would tell you a whole different story. They want him gone.
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Post#1027 » by cyclix » Sat Jan 31, 2015 9:01 pm

Thibs and Pop are much more respected by NBA circles and general fans than Spo would ever be.
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Post#1028 » by Flash4thewin » Sat Jan 31, 2015 10:01 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:Hassan should have been back in the game sooner, but this is a terrible team without Wade and Deng. The amount of blame being shifted entirely to the coach is not proportionate to just how awful this team is without those 2 guys on the court.

Its always like this though, read any team's board, every single loss is all the coaches fault. Spurs fans even hate Popovich, if you could believe that, and the entire Bulls board is ready to revolt on Thibs.

Prediction: James Ennis, Shabazz Napier, and Tyler Johnson will not be on an NBA roster in 5 years.


Yes fans get mad at coaches but in general coaches know the game and adjust. Spo still cant understand the simple concept of feeding the hot hand. Instead its go by the chart and after x mins bench player y. A 5 year old kid understands the concept yet it eludes Spo? The concept of standing up for your player, taking a tech to force the issue still eludes Spo. Last season Lebron gets his nose broken and Spo just shrugs his shoulders like whatever. We need Pat to make statements about players being too physical with our stars because our head coach cant? Thats why Spo is disliked. These are simple concepts even a 5 year old kid can gets yet Spo cant? Call it arrogance or stupidity but that is Spo being Spo.
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Post#1029 » by Slot Machine » Sun Feb 1, 2015 5:45 am

Rock Hardy wrote:
Slot Machine wrote:Do you ever debate with anything other than logical fallacies? You challenge people to name coaches they'd rather have just so you can "tell them how wrong they are." Do you realize how close-minded and ignorant that is?

You try to present yourself as rational and objective, but you're the opposite. You're a Spoelstra fan so of course you'd disagree with any coaching suggestions. The only difference between you and the annoying LeBron stans we used to have is that at least LeBron deserves to have fans. No coach or player is above criticism and definitely not Spo. Get a grip and learn how to actually respond with meaningful points instead of useless rhetoric paired with a condescending attitude.

You're rapidly becoming the worst poster this site has ever seen.

I haven't told anyone how wrong they are. The suggestion of Malone I replied to with follow up questions. I don't believe those have been answered. The Iowa coach I haven't said was wrong either. Don't jump to conclusions.

I'm not a Spo fan so much as I'm not an irrational hater who can't definitively say what he's doing wrong. We got a bunch of coaching experts here with zero credibility. You seem to view lack of derision as some show off support. It's not. I'm just willing to admit lack of knowledge and thus shut my mouth accordingly. I see nothing to gain from pretending to know what I don't. Get me?

I try to present myself as logical and rational because that's what I strive to be. I don't always get it right.

I think of you want to complain about a problem, there should be a solution in mind, otherwise it's just childish whining. In this case, it's uninformed childish whining, which is decidedly worse. People are free to react as they choose. I'm free to question the logic of said reactions. If I said I want Fizdale to replace Spo as coach, I'd expect someone to ask me why. If I can't explain why, I probably didn't think it through.

BTW, that last sentence you wrote is just plain dumb and wrong. You may disagree with me, but worst poster? The guy who tries to explain himself? Yeah, you're not taking this personally. Ha.

You literally said, word-for-word "Name one [coach] then get ready to be told how wrong you are." I'm not jumping to any conclusions.

No, Pimpwerx, we've been over this many times. Just because I'm not a coach or you're not a coach, doesn't mean we're not able to critique his decisions. That's simply not how the world works. Going by your logic, whenever we criticize a player's actions, we're pretending to be a bunch of playing experts, I suppose. So, I guess since we're not NBA players, we can't criticize the play of an athlete. If we want to keep exploring your illogical world, I suppose Spoelstra shouldn't be able to critique any NBA player because he wasn't an NBA player. You don't have to be in someone's shoes to criticize the work they are doing. You just can't seem to grasp that and I'm not sure why. You didn't grasp it during the Big 3 era under your several other accounts and you don't understand it now either.

There's a difference between being wrong (which everyone is at one time or another) and the way you present yourself as logical or rational. You're not willing to hear new views, let alone accept them. All debates with you are pointless because you bring up your side of the argument and then shout down the other person with long-winded posts saying nothing. Arguing with you is a time-sink, and unfortunately for me, I've gotten caught up in it yet again. The fact that I just had to explain, for the millionth time, why we are able to critique coaches despite not being coaches speaks volumes as to your intelligence.

Again, I have no problem with you supporting Spo but the way you do it is toxic. You're clearly a fanboy (miss me with the objectivity claims, it's the same thing we heard form all the LeBron homers who are now gone). If you disagree with somebody, you present your points, they present theirs and you discuss your differences. Your idea of a discussion is condescension and ignoring the other person. On your old account, Pimpwerx, before you got banned, we had a discussion about the rotation. You asked me to create an alternate rotation instead of criticizing Speolstra's. That's incredibly absurd but I did it anyway, complete with minute allocations. You know what you did? You never responded. This is why arguing with you is pointless. Even if we comply with all your absurd, time-wasting demands, you just disappear to troll another day.

Great last sentence. "LOL UR MAD" I wasn't aware this was 2009 where trying to get someone upset was an endgame. I'm not mad, rather I just feel bad for you in a lot of ways.
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Post#1030 » by RexBoyWonder » Sun Feb 1, 2015 10:14 am

Slot Machine wrote:
Rock Hardy wrote:
Slot Machine wrote:Do you ever debate with anything other than logical fallacies? You challenge people to name coaches they'd rather have just so you can "tell them how wrong they are." Do you realize how close-minded and ignorant that is?

You try to present yourself as rational and objective, but you're the opposite. You're a Spoelstra fan so of course you'd disagree with any coaching suggestions. The only difference between you and the annoying LeBron stans we used to have is that at least LeBron deserves to have fans. No coach or player is above criticism and definitely not Spo. Get a grip and learn how to actually respond with meaningful points instead of useless rhetoric paired with a condescending attitude.

You're rapidly becoming the worst poster this site has ever seen.

I haven't told anyone how wrong they are. The suggestion of Malone I replied to with follow up questions. I don't believe those have been answered. The Iowa coach I haven't said was wrong either. Don't jump to conclusions.

I'm not a Spo fan so much as I'm not an irrational hater who can't definitively say what he's doing wrong. We got a bunch of coaching experts here with zero credibility. You seem to view lack of derision as some show off support. It's not. I'm just willing to admit lack of knowledge and thus shut my mouth accordingly. I see nothing to gain from pretending to know what I don't. Get me?

I try to present myself as logical and rational because that's what I strive to be. I don't always get it right.

I think of you want to complain about a problem, there should be a solution in mind, otherwise it's just childish whining. In this case, it's uninformed childish whining, which is decidedly worse. People are free to react as they choose. I'm free to question the logic of said reactions. If I said I want Fizdale to replace Spo as coach, I'd expect someone to ask me why. If I can't explain why, I probably didn't think it through.

BTW, that last sentence you wrote is just plain dumb and wrong. You may disagree with me, but worst poster? The guy who tries to explain himself? Yeah, you're not taking this personally. Ha.

You literally said, word-for-word "Name one [coach] then get ready to be told how wrong you are." I'm not jumping to any conclusions.

No, Pimpwerx, we've been over this many times. Just because I'm not a coach or you're not a coach, doesn't mean we're not able to critique his decisions. That's simply not how the world works. Going by your logic, whenever we criticize a player's actions, we're pretending to be a bunch of playing experts, I suppose. So, I guess since we're not NBA players, we can't criticize the play of an athlete. If we want to keep exploring your illogical world, I suppose Spoelstra shouldn't be able to critique any NBA player because he wasn't an NBA player. You don't have to be in someone's shoes to criticize the work they are doing. You just can't seem to grasp that and I'm not sure why. You didn't grasp it during the Big 3 era under your several other accounts and you don't understand it now either.

There's a difference between being wrong (which everyone is at one time or another) and the way you present yourself as logical or rational. You're not willing to hear new views, let alone accept them. All debates with you are pointless because you bring up your side of the argument and then shout down the other person with long-winded posts saying nothing. Arguing with you is a time-sink, and unfortunately for me, I've gotten caught up in it yet again. The fact that I just had to explain, for the millionth time, why we are able to critique coaches despite not being coaches speaks volumes as to your intelligence.

Again, I have no problem with you supporting Spo but the way you do it is toxic. You're clearly a fanboy (miss me with the objectivity claims, it's the same thing we heard form all the LeBron homers who are now gone). If you disagree with somebody, you present your points, they present theirs and you discuss your differences. Your idea of a discussion is condescension and ignoring the other person. On your old account, Pimpwerx, before you got banned, we had a discussion about the rotation. You asked me to create an alternate rotation instead of criticizing Speolstra's. That's incredibly absurd but I did it anyway, complete with minute allocations. You know what you did? You never responded. This is why arguing with you is pointless. Even if we comply with all your absurd, time-wasting demands, you just disappear to troll another day.

Great last sentence. "LOL UR MAD" I wasn't aware this was 2009 where trying to get someone upset was an endgame. I'm not mad, rather I just feel bad for you in a lot of ways.


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