Scott brooks hot seat watch

[Podirk]

Who are the Thunder supposedly modeled after? At least front office wise, not so much player wise. San Antonio, you know what they have done...been consistent, not quick to deter their route b/c of a bad stretch.

[Thunderhead]

Who are the Thunder supposedly modeled after? At least front office wise, not so much player wise. San Antonio, you know what they have done...been consistent, not quick to deter their route b/c of a bad stretch.

The huge diff between Spurs and Thunder, is the stars for the Spurs , play for less money.

The secondary diff, is Spurs put veterans around those stars, cause they have the money to do this. Presti is trying to get by on rookie contracts.

And that leads us to the reason for not wanting to go into the tax, to sign Harden. It was the new CBA, that caused the problems with the repeater tax penalty. Its hard enough now, without those repeater tax penalties, to put players around KD/Russ/Serge.

If they had paid Harden, it would have been extremely difficult, and they would not have all these rookie contracts that mostly came from the Harden trade.

This is extremely frustrating for me. I do not understand why the vast majority of NBA fans and media, can not grasp this concept !!! Its infuriating.

I really believe, they DON"T WANT to grasp the concept, they WANT to think a certain way, and don't want any facts to get in the way.

[Thunderhead]

Ya know what , Mark Cuban blew up a championship team, because of the unknown of what the huge changes in the 2011 CBA , would bring. He looked into the future, to the best anyone can see into the future, and made a calculation on what he thought the new CBA would do to the league.

He missed it.

But he gets no flak for this , he gets no hate for it, no one calls him cheap.

[Thunderhead]

Presti's rookie contract plan, is dependent upon his player evaluation, on those players developing as he projects, and thinking that KD/Russ are so great, they can over come the inexperience of the rookie contracts.

But it appears, that he's missed a bit, on all three counts. Not entirely, but enough that the roster has become flawed.

There's reasons why many NBA coaches will not play rookies, they don't want the young guy mistakes, that can neuter any good play you get from them. Young players are inconsistent. Older vets can pick up on schemes much faster, they can learn on the fly, they can adjust during a game on their own. A lot of them may know the game better or as well, as the coach i.e. jason kidd , DFish.

[Thunderhead]

Heck, the Heat just blew up their team due to the 2011 CBA, cause they did not want to pay Mike Miller .... why ??? Cause they knew what the repeater tax penalties would do, not to mention the extreme lux tax that is paid and goes up every year.

[Thunderhead]

Spurs top five player's salaries

Parker .... 12.5
Duncan ..... 10.3
Splitter..... 9.2
Diaw ....... 8
Manu ...... 7

Total 47 million

Thunder top three players

KD .......... 19
Russ .... 16
Serge .... 12

Total 47 million

But what this really points to, is the Perk contract of 9.6 , really hurts adding " others " .

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/san-a ... am-salary/

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/oklah ... am-salary/

[Thunderhead]

And before someone even brings it up, about the amnesty of Perk .........

What's always missed in that discussion, is if Perk were amnestied, Presti would still need a center. He would've had to have gone out on the market and bought one, and when Perk was eligible for amnesty, there was really not much out there to be had and it would've cost nearly as much as Perk .... probably in the 5 to 7 million range.

Over and over , I've heard some media guy flatly state " they should've amnestied Perk " , but that person offers no solution as to who would've played center for the Thunder.

But yeah, the Perk contract was a bad one. Problem was getting out of it, and it was not as easy as just an amnesty.

[babase]

I kind of sadly feel that this is much closer to being realistic than it should be..

[Podirk]

And before someone even brings it up, about the amnesty of Perk .........

What's always missed in that discussion, is if Perk were amnestied, Presti would still need a center. He would've had to have gone out on the market and bought one, and when Perk was eligible for amnesty, there was really not much out there to be had and it would've cost nearly as much as Perk .... probably in the 5 to 7 million range.

Over and over , I've heard some media guy flatly state " they should've amnestied Perk " , but that person offers no solution as to who would've played center for the Thunder.

But yeah, the Perk contract was a bad one. Problem was getting out of it, and it was not as easy as just an amnesty.

Yeah I did some calculations a while back after many quoted Thunder would have been in a better financial situation after amnesty and none of them came out on the positive side. All situations were even or more costly by amnestying Perk, finding a replacement, etc.

[Thunderhead]

And the bare facts of the matter, if Presti had amnestied Perk, and found a replacement ............. the fans would've grown to hate the replacement even more than they hated Perk.

And it could've been some guy, who was hated in the locker room also, that could've been worse.

[Bravenewworld]

The huge diff between Spurs and Thunder, is the stars for the Spurs , play for less money.

I feel the urge to address this little bit, not the whole thing.

1. Our guys did take less money for their extensions.
2. Spurs players got paid nearly the max of what they could get, on their third contracts too.

Its not a different scenario.

[Bravenewworld]

And the bare facts of the matter, if Presti had amnestied Perk, and found a replacement ............. the fans would've grown to hate the replacement even more than they hated Perk.

And it could've been some guy, who was hated in the locker room also, that could've been worse.

Bingo.
This is nothing more than people not understanding what they are using the center position as.
Granted, Perkins could be more consistent offensively, it does not mean he would be any kind of offensive option. A consistent 7pts from this guy is more than adequate.

[elBJ]

Ya know what , Mark Cuban blew up a championship team, because of the unknown of what the huge changes in the 2011 CBA , would bring. He looked into the future, to the best anyone can see into the future, and made a calculation on what he thought the new CBA would do to the league.

He missed it.

But he gets no flak for this , he gets no hate for it, no one calls him cheap.

Because he was not. He would've paid, but nobody took his money.
I mean i call him stupid for trading for that chandler contract he did not offer.

[Thunderhead]

Ya know what , Mark Cuban blew up a championship team, because of the unknown of what the huge changes in the 2011 CBA , would bring. He looked into the future, to the best anyone can see into the future, and made a calculation on what he thought the new CBA would do to the league.

He missed it.

But he gets no flak for this , he gets no hate for it, no one calls him cheap.

Because he was not. He would've paid, but nobody took his money.
I mean i call him stupid for trading for that chandler contract he did not offer.

Sorry man, when he was disassembling that team, a lot of people wondered what he was doing, but there were no critics of what he was doing .......... in hindsight, he tore it down for no reason.

In hindsight, knowing now what the cap levels are under new CBA, Presti could've kept Harden .... but there's no pass for not being able to see into the future.

No one has a crystal ball, and if you rip one GM for not having one, then the rest are off limits too.

[elBJ]

Ya know what , Mark Cuban blew up a championship team, because of the unknown of what the huge changes in the 2011 CBA , would bring. He looked into the future, to the best anyone can see into the future, and made a calculation on what he thought the new CBA would do to the league.

He missed it.

But he gets no flak for this , he gets no hate for it, no one calls him cheap.

Because he was not. He would've paid, but nobody took his money.
I mean i call him stupid for trading for that chandler contract he did not offer.

Sorry man, when he was disassembling that team, a lot of people wondered what he was doing, but there were no critics of what he was doing .......... in hindsight, he tore it down for no reason.

In hindsight, knowing now what the cap levels are under new CBA, Presti could've kept Harden .... but there's no pass for not being able to see into the future.

No one has a crystal ball, and if you rip one GM for not having one, then the rest are off limits too.

He gets criticized for blowing that Championship team for no reason!
but he is not called cheap -> because he wasn't. He speculated on big time free agents and failed.
OKC traded Harden for mainly financial reasons, one year before even (eventually) hitting the lux.
That's cheap! -> so they getting called, you name it ... CHEAP!

[bondom34]

Because he was not. He would've paid, but nobody took his money.
I mean i call him stupid for trading for that chandler contract he did not offer.

Sorry man, when he was disassembling that team, a lot of people wondered what he was doing, but there were no critics of what he was doing .......... in hindsight, he tore it down for no reason.

In hindsight, knowing now what the cap levels are under new CBA, Presti could've kept Harden .... but there's no pass for not being able to see into the future.

No one has a crystal ball, and if you rip one GM for not having one, then the rest are off limits too.

He gets criticized for blowing that Championship team for no reason!
but he is not called cheap -> because he wasn't. He speculated on big time free agents and failed.
OKC traded Harden for mainly financial reasons, one year before even (eventually) hitting the lux.
That's cheap! -> so they getting called, you name it ... CHEAP!

Frankly I think Harden was only partially traded for financial reasons, and he also wouldn't be nearly this player if he were on OKC. You can call it cheap, but if you are, then you better call about 25 other teams cheap too.

[spearsy23]

Dat hot seat though

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/236638/Kevin-Durant-Rants-About-Media-Following-Question-On-Scott-Brooks

[bondom34]

Fine, fire him. And waive bye bye to KD.