Official Trade Thread: The Block Is Hot!!

[Qwigglez]

Suns get-
David West

Pacers get-
IT/PJ Tucker

I really don't want to get rid of IT, but I do want to open up playing time for TJ Warren. This would also open up playing time for Ennis. Have Warren start alongside West for a couple of games, and I bet his confidence shoots thru the roof. Warren has really good scoring instincts and moves off the ball well, this could be easy buckets for him with Dragic and Bledsoe handling the rock. We maintain that spark off the bench with Green and the Morris bros. West can also be that veteran leader to guide the rest of our players.
Doubt the Pacers do it, but this would be nice.

I like it. West is a smart veteran player who doesn't tolerate bull s**t. Just what we need on this team.

I like Tucker's effort for the most part on defense, but he is severely lacking on the offensive end. Sometimes he tries to hard to score, and his defender can normally drift quite a bit away because Tucker is a very inconsistent shooter. Putting in someone like Warren who knows how to play off the ball extremely well will keep his defender honest. This also opens up the floor. We get a lot of toughness on the interior and like you said, West demands a lot of respect around the league.
Let's go sink or swim with Warren in the starting lineup, I can't imagine he would be any worse than Tucker.

[Zelaznyrules]

Suns get-
David West

Pacers get-
IT/PJ Tucker

I really don't want to get rid of IT, but I do want to open up playing time for TJ Warren. This would also open up playing time for Ennis. Have Warren start alongside West for a couple of games, and I bet his confidence shoots thru the roof. Warren has really good scoring instincts and moves off the ball well, this could be easy buckets for him with Dragic and Bledsoe handling the rock. We maintain that spark off the bench with Green and the Morris bros. West can also be that veteran leader to guide the rest of our players.
Doubt the Pacers do it, but this would be nice.

I don't want to get rid of IT either but if I were to pursue West I think I'd offer Thomas, Plumlee and Green instead. The numbers still work and it also opens up playing time for Warren and Ennis.

[Qwigglez]

^If we trade IT and Green we have no explosion off the bench anymore. We need to keep one of the two.

[Revived]

Suns get-
David West

Pacers get-
IT/PJ Tucker

I really don't want to get rid of IT, but I do want to open up playing time for TJ Warren. This would also open up playing time for Ennis. Have Warren start alongside West for a couple of games, and I bet his confidence shoots thru the roof. Warren has really good scoring instincts and moves off the ball well, this could be easy buckets for him with Dragic and Bledsoe handling the rock. We maintain that spark off the bench with Green and the Morris bros. West can also be that veteran leader to guide the rest of our players.
Doubt the Pacers do it, but this would be nice.

I like it. West is a smart veteran player who doesn't tolerate bull s**t. Just what we need on this team.

I like Tucker's effort for the most part on defense, but he is severely lacking on the offensive end. Sometimes he tries to hard to score, and his defender can normally drift quite a bit away because Tucker is a very inconsistent shooter. Putting in someone like Warren who knows how to play off the ball extremely well will keep his defender honest. This also opens up the floor. We get a lot of toughness on the interior and like you said, West demands a lot of respect around the league.
Let's go sink or swim with Warren in the starting lineup, I can't imagine he would be any worse than Tucker.

I'd do it but I doubt the Suns ever consider it. Other than Kieff, the last rookie who got quality minutes for the Suns was probably Amare.

There's something about this team and developing its rookies.

[Zelaznyrules]

^If we trade IT and Green we have no explosion off the bench anymore. We need to keep one of the two.

I like the idea of Ennis, Goodwin, Warren, West and Wright playing as a unit although obviously our two starting guards would often be mixed in there too.

[NBA Fiend]

By reading through the posts and seeing Greens PT reduced one would assume the Suns are looking at Morri/Green for Gibson/McD from their side.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=nfssgrd" target="_blank" target="_blank

Perhaps the Suns really do want to run TBD as their core guards. Goodwin could at least get spot minutes. By turning the Morri into Gibson they could free up time for Warren who looks to be a natural scorer. Which leads me to the question do YOU trade Thomas/Plumlee for Harris if the Magic accept knowing Harris will command a big pay day or develop Warren.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=mrpgq2x

[Jdiddy701]

Gibson is not needed on this team. Good player but not needed.


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[Kerrsed]

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[NBA Fiend]

Just delving into comments made on this board regarding the Suns interest in Gibson. Gibson is 29 and does not fit the McD profile. I am curious as to if the Suns are inquiring about Harris. From what I read the Magic will not pay him what he wants and are open to trading him. Anyone know if the Suns would be interested or are they satisfied going the Warren route? Not Traxee, Kerssed?

[Kerrsed]

Just delving into comments made on this board regarding the Suns interest in Gibson. Gibson is 29 and does not fit the McD profile. I am curious as to if the Suns are inquiring about Harris. From what I read the Magic will not pay him what he wants and are open to trading him. Anyone know if the Suns would be interested or are they satisfied going the Warren route? Not Traxee, Kerssed?

[Grots]

Just delving into comments made on this board regarding the Suns interest in Gibson. Gibson is 29 and does not fit the McD profile.

What's the McD profile?

[NBA Fiend]

The criteria is quite simple a budding superstar 25 or under. Pretty much what every GM wants from life. That is why I wonder about Harris. I do not know much about him other than that he is Fryes cousin. But he is 22 and according to those who have seen him he has some magic, then again I can see Warren putting up 20 ppg easy with minutes. For those of you who remember Cedric Laker style.o

[Mr Puddles]

Yeap i think it s fair for both sides

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Really? Harris reportedly turned down 36 mil for 4 years from ORL. Do we really want to invest 10 mil+ per year on a small forward? I like Harris but he seems to be in the category good but not great, which would just add to an already roster stacked with above average non-superstar players.

Harris is barely 22 years old. He has the potential to be great.

I would love that deal for Harris.

Bledsoe/Dragic/Len/Harris is a good core to build around.

I like Harris as well, I'm just not thrilled about locking up all our cap space on wing players. I'd be surprised if he signs for less than 12 mil. per year this offseason. I would prefer to leave the small forward for what it is, hoping that T.J. Warren will turn into a solid player, and instead pursue a PF/C.

[Kyler Murray]

Really? Harris reportedly turned down 36 mil for 4 years from ORL. Do we really want to invest 10 mil+ per year on a small forward? I like Harris but he seems to be in the category good but not great, which would just add to an already roster stacked with above average non-superstar players.

Harris is barely 22 years old. He has the potential to be great.

I would love that deal for Harris.

Bledsoe/Dragic/Len/Harris is a good core to build around.

I like Harris as well, I'm just not thrilled about locking up all our cap space on wing players. I'd be surprised if he signs for less than 12 mil. per year this offseason. I would prefer to leave the small forward for what it is, hoping that T.J. Warren will turn into a solid player, and instead pursue a PF/C.

For 12m per I'd actually do it. He's only 22 and averaging 17 & 6.5 on 46% shooting, very good defender too and money in the clutch. And Len is our center for the future, wouldn't pursue anyone unless it's for backup minutes.

[NavLDO]

What about
Isaiah Thomas and Gerald Green and Mook
For:
Noah Vonleh and Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

I believe that our problem is depth and if we get rid of it and the log-jam we would become a better "team"

I haven't made my way through the last 4 pages on this thread yet, so excuse me if I repeat anyone else's thought, but wanted to comment on this post.

I think you are 1/2 right---we do have a depth problem, but the problem is too much depth at the 1,2, and 3 spots, but nearly enough depth at the 4/5. Len, Wright, Kieff, Plumlee--Only one of those should be involved in any trade, and I think we all know who that should be. So that's 4 guys for 2 positions, but leaves 11 guys for the other 3--that's quite lopsided, IMO, so if we trade for Gibson, I sure hope that the trade involves pieces from the 1 (IT), 2 (Bullock, Green), or 3 (PJ, Mook, Green). We should trade Plumlee, but only if we are getting 2 pieces at the 4/5, because as it is, he is insurance for us should Len go down.

[RunDogGun]

^If we trade IT and Green we have no explosion off the bench anymore. We need to keep one of the two.

Wouldn't we be in the same position as last season from the bench, if we did your trade? Even if we got rid of Green as well as IT, if we traded for West, and started him with TJ (I highly doubt Jeff would do that), wouldn't we have the Mo Bros doing the same thing they did last year off the bench? And if they had a pass first point like Ennis getting them the ball, I don't see why they wouldn't get the same amount of shots.

[rsavaj]

Just delving into comments made on this board regarding the Suns interest in Gibson. Gibson is 29 and does not fit the McD profile.

What's the McD profile?

Young, with lots of upside.

Helps if they're hyperathletic(Goodwin, Bradley, Rondo) but not a requirement if they're skilled(Warren, Ennis, Len, Sullinger).

Key point is that McD has REPEATEDLY said that he's not going to make "win now moves" if they come at the cost of our future. Trading IT(26, signed to a great contract) or the Morri(young, signed to very fair extensions) for a guy who is almost 30 does not make any sense.

[Frank Lee]

One 'Profile' you neglected to mention was 'good citizenry' (or what ever you want to call it) Those cultural references to 'Suns type' players Babby has made over an over. If that is truly valued, the problematic MoBros, will be the first to go.
Bad eggs smell.

I don't see what the hang up with Gibson is. He has legit size and skill, and a short commitment. He wont be the shot maker Keif is, but he wont hurt a line up either.

The only negative is see is may be we could get more.

[Revived]

One 'Profile' you neglected to mention was 'good citizenry' (or what ever you want to call it) Those cultural references to 'Suns type' players Babby has made over an over. If that is truly valued, the problematic MoBros, will be the first to go.
Bad eggs smell.

I don't see what the hang up with Gibson is. He has legit size and skill, and a short commitment. He wont be the shot maker Keif is, but he wont hurt a line up either.

The only negative is see is may be we could get more.

I don't think the Bulls are looking to ship Gibson off. The trade rumor isn't credible, it sounds like a writer that's completeky speculating.

Bulls have no need for IT, I have talked to their fans, they'd rather have Aaron Brooks with less product at less than 1/4 IT's price than IT at $7M/yr.

[RaisingArizona]

One 'Profile' you neglected to mention was 'good citizenry' (or what ever you want to call it) Those cultural references to 'Suns type' players Babby has made over an over. If that is truly valued, the problematic MoBros, will be the first to go.
Bad eggs smell.

I don't see what the hang up with Gibson is. He has legit size and skill, and a short commitment. He wont be the shot maker Keif is, but he wont hurt a line up either.

The only negative is see is may be we could get more.

Getting technicals hardly relates to being a bad citizen. The witch hunt will continue, though...