Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[Bucks2585]

Ersan Illyasova for Tiago Splitter

Put in the filler to make it work. Ersan naturally would become a star with the Spurs obviously, quite literally a perfect fit for them, and Splitter becomes a Gortat C for the Bucks. If Ersan's value isnt zero, try and make this work.

[raferfenix]

For people willing to trade Henson for Greg Monroe -- how sure are you that he won't leave some salary money on the table in Milwaukee to go make it back with endorsements in NY or LA?

[TroyD92]

Not a big Monroe fan, but if all it costs us in Henson then I can get behind it.

[breakchains]

No way would I give up a legitimate asset for Monroe. It would basically be throwing it away, as he will go to top bidder in the offseason, and there are going to be more attractive markets with lots of money to spend this year. I'd forget about Monroe completely.

[Prez]

I'm really intrigued by Monroe, I know he's a solid post scorer and can pass, but admittedly haven't watched much of Detroit this year. How's his defense? Because if Parker is gonna be a long term option at the 3 or 4, we're gonna need a solid rim protector, is Monroe at least serviceable in that respect?

[emunney]

Do people who are advocating trading for Monroe realize that he has to waive his Bird Rights to be traded?

[Nebula1]

I really like Monroe and Drummond together and wouldn't move Monroe, if I'm SVG.

[Frank Nova]

They still aren't sure if Wade will accept his all-star berth or not. If Wade bows out and Brandon is named as the alternate, there is zero chance he's getting dealt.

I still hope for a 5% chance of a Lawson deal in the event Brandon doesn't make the team.

Is this because you think Knight is part of the deal for Lawson or because you'd rather him get snubbed as Wades replacement to try and keep his price tag more reasonable?

We already have the ammunition to spare in a Lawson trade while keeping Knight so clearly the hold up is on our end. Id be willing to bet if we offered Denver our 2015 1st and the LAC 2017 1st it would be enough to get them to bite right now. It's the perfect move for Milwaukee to send a message to the rest of the league and the fan base; "Hey! We mean business."

If we're offering a boatload of 1st our target needs to be an absolute stud. It needs to be a guy who puts us over the top talent wise. I don't think Lawson is that.

Yikes, id love to hear ur idea of who that player is...? Imo, Ty Lawson becomes the 2nd best PG in the EC behind John Wall and no one else. He moves the needle for us, not sure anyone is selling me otherwise. But Id love to hear the difference in opinion.

I'm a big Dragic fan to, Id throw a bigger offer at Denver for Lawson because he's already under contract, if Dragic could be traded for and locked up long term I make the same offer to Phoenix and take whichever accepts 1st.

I won't say it's Lawson or bust for Milwaukee but I see him as most attainable difference maker likely available for us if we were willing to take a leap of faith and make a realistic offer that no one would be willing to beat. Is 2 1sts for Lawson a slight overpay? Maybe. Is bringing in Ty Lawson gonna help make our team better? Absolutely.

[Frank Nova]

There aren't many players in the league I want less than Faried.

Why's that? Just out of curiousity..

He's got a four year $50 million dollar extension kicking in this summer, he does only one thing well, doesn't effectively play defense, and he's having the worst year of his career. He'd have to play center for the Bucks, a position he'd be smoked at on a nightly basis.

I'm not crazy about Faried either, I hate that contract pretty bad and he certainly doesn't offer much more than energy and defensive rebounding. He does run the floor well but Id be much more interested in acquiring a Reggie Evans for pennies on the dollar to do everything Faried can.

But I'll easily put a lot of blame on Brian Shaw as I see him as a disgustingly terrible coach that should be completely away from the game by now.

Hard to really call it but overall I agree, stay away. We need a rebounding big pretty bad but that's way too steep of a price tag vs production that I could ever be comfortable with.

[ampd]

Is this because you think Knight is part of the deal for Lawson or because you'd rather him get snubbed as Wades replacement to try and keep his price tag more reasonable?

We already have the ammunition to spare in a Lawson trade while keeping Knight so clearly the hold up is on our end. Id be willing to bet if we offered Denver our 2015 1st and the LAC 2017 1st it would be enough to get them to bite right now. It's the perfect move for Milwaukee to send a message to the rest of the league and the fan base; "Hey! We mean business."

If we're offering a boatload of 1st our target needs to be an absolute stud. It needs to be a guy who puts us over the top talent wise. I don't think Lawson is that.

Yikes, id love to hear ur idea of who that player is...? Imo, Ty Lawson becomes the 2nd best PG in the EC behind John Wall and no one else. He moves the needle for us, not sure anyone is selling me otherwise. But Id love to hear the difference in opinion.

I like Ty Lawson a lot and he's a quality player. I don't think he's better than Rose, Wall, Irving, or this year's Lowry. I wasn't trying to say I would be enraged or that those picks aren't fair value for him either, I think that deal probably gets it done if Denver is looking to move him.

As far as what i was talking about, I meant I'd only like to trade multiple 1sts in a package for a guy with superstar top 5 player at his position potential, or a guy who is currently that good. Like if we made an offer for DeMarcus Cousins or something. Something along the lines of what the Rockets did for Harden.

Otherwise multiple 1sts are just too valuable for a team like ours that has to rely at least in party on drafting assets to fill some of our needs. Look at where dealing a bunch of 1sts has gotten the Knicks for example, and that's a team that can sign free agents.

Its a huge risk for a small market team like us to give up multiple 1sts, so I'd rather give up more (2 of our 1sts and the Clippers pick + Henson and Knight for example) to get a top player at their position or a potential top 20 nba player rather than deal less to get a 2nd tier guy.

[Chuck Diesel]

Not a trade target, but this dude is an NBA center we should go after. Big, strong shot blocker. Runs very well for his size. Good around the basket. Remember the name Artsiom Parakhouski.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FneNi3Yhk7s[/youtube]

[jakecronus8]

I'm entranced by Nenad Krstic's hair or lack thereof

[JayMKE]

I kinda just want to sign Nenad Krstic now. Bald guy with a mustache? Sounds like a solid 3rd center to me.

[Baddy Chuck]

Not a trade target, but this dude is an NBA center we should go after. Big, strong shot blocker. Runs very well for his size. Good around the basket. Remember the name Artsiom Parakhouski.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FneNi3Yhk7s[/youtube]

He got a lot of hype as a second rounder that draft, surprised he never got a shot.

[Ruzious]

Ersan Illyasova for Tiago Splitter

Put in the filler to make it work. Ersan naturally would become a star with the Spurs obviously, quite literally a perfect fit for them, and Splitter becomes a Gortat C for the Bucks. If Ersan's value isnt zero, try and make this work.

There's no chance SA considers this. Splitter's a far more value commodity. And at some point before his 80's, Duncan's going to retire.

[tski1972]

Not a trade target, but this dude is an NBA center we should go after. Big, strong shot blocker. Runs very well for his size. Good around the basket. Remember the name Artsiom Parakhouski.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FneNi3Yhk7s[/youtube]

seems very good in the pick and roll which means he'd never get a pass from Brandon Knight.

[Frank Nova]

I'm entranced by Nenad Krstic's hair or lack thereof

U don't like the friar Fran look?

[Bucks2585]

Ersan + 2015 1st and Clippers 1st Round Pick

For

Michael Carter-Williams

I know most would be opposed to spending two firsts on Michael Carter-Williams. But Carter-Williams could be the ideal combo guard off the bench with our 2nd unit, a top tier 6th man if he plays in a backcourt with Mayo, Knight, Middleton, and Marshall, all who can be effective floor spacers. Theres also the hope that Carter-Williams. Plus, Id consider PG a possibility for our 1st Round Pick anyway. We improve this year and essentially spend a 1st to shed Ersan for a position that we would pick up anyway. Use FA to find a 3rd C. Some big bodied rebounder as Zaza/Henson seems to be working as a combo for us up front in this system.

The 76ers get the two firsts that they are looking for with Carter-Williams at the expense of taking on a bad contract in Ersan whose departure opens up room to extend Knight and Middleton.

I expect everyone to hate this. But clearing cap is a big concern of mine with Middleton and Knight extensions coming up and the fact that we might have a bunch of dead cap space due whatever happens with Larry Sanders.

[Giannis Parker]

Ersan + 2015 1st and Clippers 1st Round Pick

For

Michael Carter-Williams

I know most would be opposed to spending two firsts on Michael Carter-Williams. But Carter-Williams could be the ideal combo guard off the bench with our 2nd unit, a top tier 6th man if he plays in a backcourt with Mayo, Knight, Middleton, and Marshall, all who can be effective floor spacers. Theres also the hope that Carter-Williams. Plus, Id consider PG a possibility for our 1st Round Pick anyway. We improve this year and essentially spend a 1st to shed Ersan for a position that we would pick up anyway. Use FA to find a 3rd C. Some big bodied rebounder as Zaza/Henson seems to be working as a combo for us up front in this system.

The 76ers get the two firsts that they are looking for with Carter-Williams at the expense of taking on a bad contract in Ersan whose departure opens up room to extend Knight and Middleton.

I expect everyone to hate this. But clearing cap is a big concern of mine with Middleton and Knight extensions coming up and the fact that we might have a bunch of dead cap space due whatever happens with Larry Sanders.

Lottery protect our pick to be safe and I am fine with this. The clippers 1st is not that valuable, so we are essentially trading a 15-20 1st round pick for a player worth that value wise and dumping a contract along with it. This is a win for the Bucks.

[M-C-G]

Ersan + 2015 1st and Clippers 1st Round Pick

For

Michael Carter-Williams

I know most would be opposed to spending two firsts on Michael Carter-Williams. But Carter-Williams could be the ideal combo guard off the bench with our 2nd unit, a top tier 6th man if he plays in a backcourt with Mayo, Knight, Middleton, and Marshall, all who can be effective floor spacers. Theres also the hope that Carter-Williams. Plus, Id consider PG a possibility for our 1st Round Pick anyway. We improve this year and essentially spend a 1st to shed Ersan for a position that we would pick up anyway. Use FA to find a 3rd C. Some big bodied rebounder as Zaza/Henson seems to be working as a combo for us up front in this system.

The 76ers get the two firsts that they are looking for with Carter-Williams at the expense of taking on a bad contract in Ersan whose departure opens up room to extend Knight and Middleton.

I expect everyone to hate this. But clearing cap is a big concern of mine with Middleton and Knight extensions coming up and the fact that we might have a bunch of dead cap space due whatever happens with Larry Sanders.

More than likely you are going to be able to a player as good or better with that/those picks, who would be under control for more years and wouldn't have to unlearn a ton of bad habits picked up.

If we can buy low on MCW (like 2nd rounder) I am in, but no way to the offer above.