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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#41 » by DirtybirdGA » Sat Feb 7, 2015 3:50 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:I really hope you guys win it all this year so this board gets more active. I envy your team. No superstars, but just an overall great, great team. Cheered like hell for you guys tonight.



Thanks, there's just more Hawk fans posting on other spots than here, SB Nation, and Hawksquawk etc.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#42 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Feb 7, 2015 7:04 pm

Huge win for the home team. Warriors were a bit jet-lagged. But they played well, and we simply played better.

PROS
Big game for Teague.

Draymond Green is really impressive, We have no shot, but I'd love to see us pursue him in free agency.

AL is indeed the franchise. The rock. The godfather. Please tell me we've at least approached the idea of him signing an extension.

But man, to watch Dennis play is to see greatness in its infancy. The kid is fantastic. He still makes some youthful, boneheaded plays...but he'll only get better.

Korver, Bazemore and M Scott were lights out from three. Probably the biggest difference in the final score.

CONS
We gotta do something about that rebounding differential. We gave up 19 offensive boards, were out scored 58-36 in the paint. Two hallmarks of a well coached, disciplined team. But the difference in our favor tonight was 3-Point shooting and Free Throws. It makes me nervous to have to depend on those against top teams in a 7 game series.

Atlanta’s Rebounding Woes

Even though the Hawks shouldn’t be exactly as worried about its defensive rebounding problems as, let’s say, the Mavericks (currently the second worst team in defensive rebounding percentage), it still could present itself as an issue come post-season time. Last night they posted a very bad DREB% of 64.2 as Draymond Green repeatedly went over Atlanta’s bigs for second chances.

Definitely an aspect of the game in which teams could look to hurt Atlanta. Had it not been for Bazemore’s and Scott’s huge threes, Green might have sealed the game with his ten offensive rebounds.


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Skyhawk1 wrote:... Ferry gave Mack a nice 3 year deal and I think not even him saw Dennis' growth coming. He still turns it over way too much but given his age and inexperience at this level, I'm pleased with his production. I still feel like we got to figure out a way to get a decent big to back up Al. I do not trust Pero and his 30% 3pt fg%. Stoudamire?


Agreed, Dennis' growth has been incredible. Also agree with concerns regarding Pero in the post-season. We saw how ineffective his game was last post-season when his shot isn't falling. Stoudemire wouldn't be a terrible addition. But I'd hope for at least one backup big capable of defending the pick-and-roll. I don't think any Center/Forward on our bench is especially effective against it.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#43 » by Jamaaliver » Sat Feb 7, 2015 7:09 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:here's my take on last night's game. I mostly focused on you going up against Golden State's switching-heavy defense.

https://lamarmatic.wordpress.com/2015/0 ... ggernauts/


This is a fantastic write-up of the match-up fellas. This might be a blueprint for what teams will be attempting to do to us in the post-season.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcpEcv8GkLA[/youtube]

Switching defenses could pose problems for us moving forward.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#44 » by Maf » Sat Feb 7, 2015 8:47 pm

Awesome game. I loved coaches reaction after the game. I believe they both enjoyed this game a lot.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#45 » by Lone Star » Sat Feb 7, 2015 9:32 pm

Dubs fan here... I want to give props to your team. I remember when the Dubs played the Hawks in Atlanta last season and the arena was like a graveyard... it was nice and surprising to see basketball fans come alive in Atlanta. Your team is impressive, the biggest difference I noticed between the two teams is that while both teams move the ball well on offense, the Hawks have reliable offensive threats with all of their starters, the Dubs only have three (if Barnes is included) the Dubs are near unbeatable when Draymond is hitting the 3 ball, but when he isn't, there are two non scorers on the floor. You can't really gear you defense to give up shots to the weak link with the Hawks, much like the Hawks funneled the ball away from Curry and Klay. BTW... I can't stand Lebron and the Cavs, so please eliminate them in the playoffs. I hope these two teams meet in the finals, it could usher a change in how teams approach offensive basketball, with more emphasis on ball movement as opposed to Iso and P&R heavy ball that is so prevalent right now. It doesn't take 3 superstars to win, it takes great coaching and getting the right players to play your style and get buy in from everyone on the roster.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#46 » by InsaneBanana » Sat Feb 7, 2015 9:35 pm

Jamaaliver wrote:Huge win for the home team. Warriors were a bit jet-lagged. But they played well, and we simply played better.

PROS

CONS
We gotta do something about that rebounding differential. We gave up 19 offensive boards, were out scored 58-36 in the paint. Two hallmarks of a well coached, disciplined team. But the difference in our favor tonight was 3-Point shooting and Free Throws. It makes me nervous to have to depend on those against top teams in a 7 game series.

Atlanta’s Rebounding Woes

Even though the Hawks shouldn’t be exactly as worried about its defensive rebounding problems as, let’s say, the Mavericks (currently the second worst team in defensive rebounding percentage), it still could present itself as an issue come post-season time. Last night they posted a very bad DREB% of 64.2 as Draymond Green repeatedly went over Atlanta’s bigs for second chances.

Definitely an aspect of the game in which teams could look to hurt Atlanta. Had it not been for Bazemore’s and Scott’s huge threes, Green might have sealed the game with his ten offensive rebounds.



The paint thing needs to be looked at in context, Hawks contained Curry and Thompsson well at 3pt line. Obviously the paint will open more.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#47 » by theatlfan » Sat Feb 7, 2015 9:53 pm

Surprised I haven't seen more here (or elsewhere) praising Kent Bazemore. For someone that was dealt as salary filler for a backup PG to score 4.5 ppg for 1/3 of the season last year, you'd think that outplaying the high $$ FA that blocked him with GSW on the day where their HC said "welcome to the Finals" would get have gotten him a bit more pub. Sure, he didn't score as much as Scott and he didn't have a big 4Q that so many of the highlights are taken from, but for a 10 minute period from the mid-1Q into the first few minutes of the 2Q, he single-handedly kept us in the game. While GSW had taken our initial punches out of the gate and was seemingly taking control of the game in going from down 2 to up 7, Bazemore was the only guy we had counter punching by hitting his 3 3's, grabbing 3 boards, and even had an assist while the entire rest of the team had 7 points (yes, 2 of which he assisted). Without Bazemore, could we have stayed close enough that we were able to stem that run with the turning point of the game - the 7-0 run to tie the game capped by Korver's 3 off Horford's steal of an inbound pass and Schröder's assist? KB might have really only gotten a -2 in the +/- column for that run, but if not for him, I'm not so sure that we fall hopelessly behind there.

Another stat I'm surprised not to have seen more of - we hung 124 points on ~50% shooting against the team that was #1 in defensive efficiency... very nice.

One con: I think we are really missing Thabo on the defensive boards. We've always been a team that relies on the wings to crash the boards to help our undersized front court. Thabo's 19.1% DRB% this season is elite and only behind MKG, Kawhi, and Giannis amoung wings with > 100 minutes (Kyle Anderson and Draymond Green omitted since they play more PF than the "average" wing). Bazemore checks in @ 16.2% while both Korver and Demarre haul them in at 13.4% - these are good (to very good for KB) numbers to be sure, but does Thabo keep Green from getting 10 Offensive rebounds? It sure feels good to get the W against a team as good as GSW, but I don't see us consistently hitting 55% from 3 either. Not sure what the answer is here, but we need to do something here...
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#48 » by atlantabbq99 » Sun Feb 8, 2015 12:34 am

InsaneBanana wrote:
Jamaaliver wrote:Huge win for the home team. Warriors were a bit jet-lagged. But they played well, and we simply played better.

PROS

CONS
We gotta do something about that rebounding differential. We gave up 19 offensive boards, were out scored 58-36 in the paint. Two hallmarks of a well coached, disciplined team. But the difference in our favor tonight was 3-Point shooting and Free Throws. It makes me nervous to have to depend on those against top teams in a 7 game series.

Atlanta’s Rebounding Woes

Even though the Hawks shouldn’t be exactly as worried about its defensive rebounding problems as, let’s say, the Mavericks (currently the second worst team in defensive rebounding percentage), it still could present itself as an issue come post-season time. Last night they posted a very bad DREB% of 64.2 as Draymond Green repeatedly went over Atlanta’s bigs for second chances.

Definitely an aspect of the game in which teams could look to hurt Atlanta. Had it not been for Bazemore’s and Scott’s huge threes, Green might have sealed the game with his ten offensive rebounds.



The paint thing needs to be looked at in context, Hawks contained Curry and Thompson well at 3pt line. Obviously the paint will open more.


InsaneBanana gets it. Budz was too concern about putting pressure on Curry, Thompson, and Green and knew that , that was more important and winning the rebounding battle.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#49 » by atlantabbq99 » Sun Feb 8, 2015 1:27 am

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The whole time after watching Green, I kept thinking to myself, this who low ceiling for a 23yr player is really just BS.

Just like Dennis in his rookie year, it will be fun to watch Payne in the next 3 or 4 years and to see what he can do in Budz's system.
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Re: GT: SuperBowl Hawks-Warriors 

Post#50 » by Jamaaliver » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:22 pm

atlantabbq99 wrote:Image

The whole time after watching Green, I kept thinking to myself, this who low ceiling for a 23yr player is really just BS.

Just like Dennis in his rookie year, it will be fun to watch Payne in the next 3 or 4 years and to see what he can do in Budz's system.


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