The Push For George Karl [Merged]

Post #181 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 3:44 am

They were negotiating years and dollars, but because Demarcus Cousins' agent has beef with Karl, the Kings are going to ditch the idea? That sounds so dumb.

CraZyPraiZ · Post #182 » by **CraZyPraiZ** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 3:49 am

I think we go elsewhere. Karl has already soured on me. Let's see how we play with JB at the helm until the All Star break and then decide.

Post #183 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 3:55 am

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tooler · Post #184 » by **tooler** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 4:07 am

I don't know guys, we know how Vucevic is a real hardass and will only work with certain coaches.

OrlandO · Post #185 » by **OrlandO** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 4:22 am

Isn't Shaq a part owner of the Kings and mentor for Cousins? Maybe Shaq told Cousins that Karl is a "woman coach" who "cries all the time" like he said back in the late 90s.

rcklsscognition · Post #186 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 4:26 am

Some Kings minority owners backing Cousins, do not want Karl. This isn't a Karl thing its a Fegan thing. seriously **** that guy.

Furinkazan · Post #187 » by **Furinkazan** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 7:23 am

OrlandO wrote:Oh please we didn't get played or used or whatever you want to call it. Karl has been begging for jobs at every opportunity for the past couple years. He just really wants to coach again and isn't being overly picky about it. He did the same social media thing to kings fans months ago. Before that he was dropping hints about the Pelicans and loving Davis. The Kings just finally stepped up with us suddenly emerging as a threat after firing vaughn. If the Magic were interested in him and actually called I'm sure it wouldn't be so one sided. If anything we got played by hennigan with his talk of wanting a proven coach and borrego's status being day by day. All PR nonsense... I'll be very surprised if borrego doesn't finish the season.

Exactly !!!

Orlwillbeback · Post #188 » by **Orlwillbeback** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 7:29 am

I don't understand why karl can't get a job. He's far and away the best candidate available.

cedric76 · Post #189 » by **cedric76** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 7:34 am

MellowRose wrote:
woosah wrote:^funny i posted that snippet in the gb thread about the Kings being in talks with Karl, then a few minutes later game6 made it a thread. That kid loves making threads lol.

I think it's an interesting wrinkle that Dan Fegan could be an irritant to Karl getting that job in SAC. He's the one who got Dwight outta here, and it makes me wonder if he has plans to get Boogie out of there and he doesn't want Karl because they would possibly have success under him. He could play it the same way with DMC...get in his ear and tell him how other teams will consult him and they never should have gotten rid of their coach without talking to him...just like it was with Dwight and not being consulted before getting rid of Courtney Lee and other players he liked. They could sell him some dreams of a bigger market and how they don't know what they are doing and won't ever win anything, like with Dwight. Idk, Karl better pick the right one because he may have some issues there if that is true.

Cousins isn't a bitch like Dwight. Dude has matured dramatically over the years, and I don't see him turning his back on Sac Town until he, by his own accord, is completely exhausted of the repetitive cycle of incompetent ownership. A coach like Karl may be able to change the atmosphere in the locker room, but if these rumors are true, he doesn't want anything to do with Karl.

Disclaimer: Cousins is in my top 3 favorite players in the NBA right now.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAMu_h16sFY[/youtube]

Cousins is a joke, he keeps taking plays off when he just doesn't defend his man, he is such a hypocrite, this isn't 2k, you guys need to start watching game, you don't want to build around a guy like that

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MagicFan32 · Post #190 » by **MagicFan32** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 8:14 am

fegan strikes again...it's amazing how these agents can control a process like this, they have too much influence on the sport

Jkam31 · Post #191 » by **Jkam31** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 8:20 am

cedric76 wrote:
MellowRose wrote:
woosah wrote:^funny i posted that snippet in the gb thread about the Kings being in talks with Karl, then a few minutes later game6 made it a thread. That kid loves making threads lol.

I think it's an interesting wrinkle that Dan Fegan could be an irritant to Karl getting that job in SAC. He's the one who got Dwight outta here, and it makes me wonder if he has plans to get Boogie out of there and he doesn't want Karl because they would possibly have success under him. He could play it the same way with DMC...get in his ear and tell him how other teams will consult him and they never should have gotten rid of their coach without talking to him...just like it was with Dwight and not being consulted before getting rid of Courtney Lee and other players he liked. They could sell him some dreams of a bigger market and how they don't know what they are doing and won't ever win anything, like with Dwight. Idk, Karl better pick the right one because he may have some issues there if that is true.

Cousins isn't a bitch like Dwight. Dude has matured dramatically over the years, and I don't see him turning his back on Sac Town until he, by his own accord, is completely exhausted of the repetitive cycle of incompetent ownership. A coach like Karl may be able to change the atmosphere in the locker room, but if these rumors are true, he doesn't want anything to do with Karl.

Disclaimer: Cousins is in my top 3 favorite players in the NBA right now.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAMu_h16sFY[/youtube]

Cousins is a joke, he keeps taking plays off when he just doesn't defend his man, he is such a hypocrite, this isn't 2k, you guys need to start watching game, you don't want to build around a guy like that

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Haha You need to start watching games dudes an MVP candidate if the owner doesn't quite on the season leading to the players around him quitting. Also he impacts the team defense better than the media darling anthony davis and his defensive rating is elite he was anchoring a starting lineup that was number 1 when Malone was here.

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drsd · Post #192 » by **drsd** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 8:34 am

tooler wrote:I don't know guys, we know how Vucevic is a real hardass and will only work with certain coaches.

Interesting as I have read he is a very coachable kid. Hmm.

drsd · Post #193 » by **drsd** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 8:40 am

Orlwillbeback wrote:I don't understand why karl can't get a job. He's far and away the best candidate available.

Statistically he has the best Wins-over-replacement stats of any coach in NBA history.

For the Magic, to commit to a running style and just accept that defense will come as Payton, Oladipo, and Gordon-A develop their bodies, Karl is the logical choice for me. I am coming around to the idea of Malone over Skiles. But any of those three is a quantum improvement over previous-Coach Vaughn. Really, GM Hennigan cannot screw this up because the candidate pool is so deep.

cedric76 · Post #194 » by **cedric76** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 9:31 am

Jkam31 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:
MellowRose wrote:
Cousins isn't a bitch like Dwight. Dude has matured dramatically over the years, and I don't see him turning his back on Sac Town until he, by his own accord, is completely exhausted of the repetitive cycle of incompetent ownership. A coach like Karl may be able to change the atmosphere in the locker room, but if these rumors are true, he doesn't want anything to do with Karl.

Disclaimer: Cousins is in my top 3 favorite players in the NBA right now.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAMu_h16sFY[/youtube]

Cousins is a joke, he keeps taking plays off when he just doesn't defend his man, he is such a hypocrite, this isn't 2k, you guys need to start watching game, you don't want to build around a guy like that

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Haha You need to start watching games dudes an MVP candidate if the owner doesn't quite on the season leading to the players around him quitting. Also he impacts the team defense better than the media darling anthony davis and his defensive rating is elite he was anchoring a starting lineup that was number 1 when Malone was here.

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Terrible attitude player, no Thx

Not saying he isn't a great player, I m just saying you don't build around a guy like that

We already had D12 here, no more stupid players, please

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tooler · Post #195 » by **tooler** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 1:11 pm

drsd wrote:
tooler wrote:I don't know guys, we know how Vucevic is a real hardass and will only work with certain coaches.

Interesting as I have read he is a very coachable kid. Hmm.

I was joking. He seems to be the opposite of a problem child.

Supreme · Post #196 » by **Supreme** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 1:20 pm

I'm firmly in the Malone camp. IF our young talent turns out to be legit, George Karl simply wouldn't be able to be around for 5-8 years...Malone would be able to grow with them.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcdov_2vxw[/youtube]

Furinkazan · Post #197 » by **Furinkazan** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 1:25 pm

Supreme wrote:I'm firmly in the Malone camp. IF our young talent turns out to be legit, George Karl simply wouldn't be able to be around for 5-8 years...Malone would be able to grow with them.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcdov_2vxw[/youtube]

how many of our coaches stayed for 5-8 years..

oh wait...

OrlandO · Post #198 » by **OrlandO** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 1:55 pm

Supreme wrote:I'm firmly in the Malone camp. IF our young talent turns out to be legit, George Karl simply wouldn't be able to be around for 5-8 years...Malone would be able to grow with them.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYcdov_2vxw[/youtube]

Can't plan that far ahead with either. Karl has the resume to expect stability over the next 3-4 years, but his age creates questions beyond that. Malone's lack of experience makes him a risk. He had a terrible first season as a head coach and the progress he showed in year two was a small sample size. He could just as easily be fired in a few years.

rcklsscognition · Post #199 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 2:08 pm

I doubt Malone is hired. He was eliminated early last time around and he hasn't improved his resume much regardless of if his firing was justified.

407Junkie · Post #200 » by **407Junkie** » Sun Feb 8, 2015 2:51 pm

akhenaten wrote:The Magic's M.O. Will be to wait until the good candidates are hired to do anything. While Hennigan sits on his hands--again-- the Kings will get George Karl. Anyone who thinks he is not the best available coach on the market is delusional. Malone and Mark Jackson don't have much more experience than Vaughn, and Karl is better than Skiles. What were they doing the whole time the world was reporting they were firing Vaughn, while they were silent? Nothing? You would hope the delay was because they were lining up candidates, but apparently not.

Mark Jackson doesn't have experience? He's been to the playoffs man. We did Vaughn drag a team there? Keep it real with yourself before putting misinformation out there just to try and prove a point. I don't care who they hire because until Hennigan gets a unit that is cohesive and work together this will never work.