Towns or Okafor or Mudiay or Russel?

[E-Balla]

I want both Towns and Mudiay. I'm selfish.

If Towns had longer arms, he would be Tim Duncan lite.

But in the NBA he'll probably post prime stats at 15-17 ppg 10 rpg 2-5 bpg 3 apg and become a good outside shooter for his size.

I hope you meant 2.5 not 5 blocks per game...

And I think Towns can be a 20/10 guy possibly (maybe like 21/11/3 for an 8th seed) while being a good defender (not All Defense but that next tier).

On the other hand I expect Jahlil to be a 18/9 guy out the gate if his conditioning is fine (I have no reason to believe its not especially since he usually plays better as the game goes on). Coming into the season I expected him to be the C version of Jabari (who happens to be the SF version of Kyrie Irving) but he's shown more refinement in the post than 90% of Cs in the league right now.

[Iron Mantis]

Quite a few good players to choose from. This is a good problem to have. I'm liking Okafor & Mudiay though.

[kane]

i hate these highlight reels where they just show guys dunking or hitting 3s.... like you can edit any scrub to look like the next jordan lmao but i did see a few amazing plays in the Okafur that remind me of duncan

[K_ick_God]

Towns trending up.

[DickGrayson]

I want both Towns and Mudiay. I'm selfish.

If Towns had longer arms, he would be Tim Duncan lite.

But in the NBA he'll probably post prime stats at 15-17 ppg 10 rpg 2-5 bpg 3 apg and become a good outside shooter for his size.

I hope you meant 2.5 not 5 blocks per game...

And I think Towns can be a 20/10 guy possibly (maybe like 21/11/3 for an 8th seed) while being a good defender (not All Defense but that next tier).

On the other hand I expect Jahlil to be a 18/9 guy out the gate if his conditioning is fine (I have no reason to believe its not especially since he usually plays better as the game goes on). Coming into the season I expected him to be the C version of Jabari (who happens to be the SF version of Kyrie Irving) but he's shown more refinement in the post than 90% of Cs in the league right now.

Honestly, I can see Okafor averaging 22-24+ points in the NBA.

His overall post game is almost perfect. I think once he adds more conditioning and becomes a stronger athlete, he will be very effective offensively.

btw, thanks for correcting my typo. hard to do post on my android phone.

[NoLayupRule]

if Lopez can do what he does then Okafor will be even better

[berkkobe7]

I think the biggest difference between today's players and yesteryear's in Todays advantage is size and athleticism. 6-8 SGs, 6-4 PGs, 7foot sfs. You have an athleticism that's no where close to then. In part because of the body and diet training and conditioning that didn't exist then.

However players of previous generations had massive advantages in fundamentals, physicality and defense. No one practically in today's generation - Duncan an obvious exception - has fundamental understanding of the game like the players used to. Also defense was so tight on the perimeter that guys like curry would struggle to get their shots.

But superstars would always have been superstars. Kobe, LeBron, dirk etc.

It's guys like Howard who wouldn't have been nearly as effective back in the day.

Do you think Melo can be a superstar or one tier below in every era of basketball?

[Retired_Doc]

I want both Towns and Mudiay. I'm selfish.

If Towns had longer arms, he would be Tim Duncan lite.

But in the NBA he'll probably post prime stats at 15-17 ppg 10 rpg 2-5 bpg 3 apg and become a good outside shooter for his size.

I hope you meant 2.5 not 5 blocks per game...

And I think Towns can be a 20/10 guy possibly (maybe like 21/11/3 for an 8th seed) while being a good defender (not All Defense but that next tier).

On the other hand I expect Jahlil to be a 18/9 guy out the gate if his conditioning is fine (I have no reason to believe its not especially since he usually plays better as the game goes on). Coming into the season I expected him to be the C version of Jabari (who happens to be the SF version of Kyrie Irving) but he's shown more refinement in the post than 90% of Cs in the league right now.

Honestly, I can see Okafor averaging 22-24+ points in the NBA.

His overall post game is almost perfect. I think once he adds more conditioning and becomes a stronger athlete, he will be very effective offensively.

btw, thanks for correcting my typo. hard to do post on my android phone.

Maybe so, but how many points will he give up on the other end?

I'm becoming much more enamored with Towns than OK4 of late. And I have a sneaky feeling if given the choice PJax might agree with me.

[Mr_Perfect]

I want Draft Express to break it down for me play by play.

I want to take a hard look at all 4-5 guys in contention.

I've heard good things about Russell as well.

[Mr_Perfect]

All things considered - we all can agree that, assuming we have a top 5 pick, it will be the most important pick in franchise history. Considering our draft pick situation and our roster situation, we need to hit on this pick. We can't mess this one up.

[Adelheid]

Okafor looking stiff at the defensive end is really bothersome, completely opposite of his offensive prowess.

[Retired_Doc]

All things considered - we all can agree that, assuming we have a top 5 pick, it will be the most important pick in franchise history. Considering our draft pick situation and our roster situation, we need to hit on this pick. We can't mess this one up.

Most correct! This pick is vital in our future!

[Retired_Doc]

Okafor looking stiff at the defensive end is really bothersome, completely opposite of his offensive prowess.

And that is exactly what scares me about picking OK4. Sure, he'll score points. But how many will he give up? I'm now ready to select Towns over OK4.

[fresko024]

Okafor looking stiff at the defensive end is really bothersome, completely opposite of his offensive prowess.

I agree..I think the only knock on Towns is that he's not Okafor in the post. He has more intangibles imo…

Better defender and shoots free throws at a good clip for a big man. Towns can always learn some post moves, Amare did

[fresko024]

Okafor looking stiff at the defensive end is really bothersome, completely opposite of his offensive prowess.

And that is exactly what scares me about picking OK4. Sure, he'll score points. But how many will he give up? I'm now ready to select Towns over OK4.

I'm with you but Mudiay and Russell may be on the board too. The question is are any of these guys going to become franchise players in the NBA? From the sounds of it Okafor will and Towns might but what about these guys?

I know Westbrook was not getting much love before the NBA teams began working him out and he is a flat out stud! Maybe someone we didn't expect jumps all these dudes...

[E-Balla]

Okafor looking stiff at the defensive end is really bothersome, completely opposite of his offensive prowess.

And that is exactly what scares me about picking OK4. Sure, he'll score points. But how many will he give up? I'm now ready to select Towns over OK4.

You watching the same Okafor? He doesnt look stiff at all just uninterested. Yeah that's a big issue but when the problem is effort there's always that factor of them putting it together. If Okafor gives half a **** about defense there's little doubt in my mind that he ends up better than Towns.

You can't draft with the worst case in mind.

[newyorker4ever]

I hope you meant 2.5 not 5 blocks per game...

And I think Towns can be a 20/10 guy possibly (maybe like 21/11/3 for an 8th seed) while being a good defender (not All Defense but that next tier).

On the other hand I expect Jahlil to be a 18/9 guy out the gate if his conditioning is fine (I have no reason to believe its not especially since he usually plays better as the game goes on). Coming into the season I expected him to be the C version of Jabari (who happens to be the SF version of Kyrie Irving) but he's shown more refinement in the post than 90% of Cs in the league right now.

Honestly, I can see Okafor averaging 22-24+ points in the NBA.

His overall post game is almost perfect. I think once he adds more conditioning and becomes a stronger athlete, he will be very effective offensively.

btw, thanks for correcting my typo. hard to do post on my android phone.

Maybe so, but how many points will he give up on the other end?

I'm becoming much more enamored with Towns than OK4 of late. And I have a sneaky feeling if given the choice PJax might agree with me.

That's a pretty big change for the way you've been coming down on people on here that have been Towns fans because you were the biggest fan of OK4 and the biggest hater of the Towns fans right??

[Retired_Doc]

Honestly, I can see Okafor averaging 22-24+ points in the NBA.

His overall post game is almost perfect. I think once he adds more conditioning and becomes a stronger athlete, he will be very effective offensively.

btw, thanks for correcting my typo. hard to do post on my android phone.

Maybe so, but how many points will he give up on the other end?

I'm becoming much more enamored with Towns than OK4 of late. And I have a sneaky feeling if given the choice PJax might agree with me.

That's a pretty big change for the way you've been coming down on people on here that have been Towns fans because you were the biggest fan of OK4 and the biggest hater of the Towns fans right??

Say what? I was never a big fan of OK4. What I had been saying is that I think Kaminsky is a much better pick than the "14th" most mocks have for him. But I was never a huge OK4 fan. If for some reason (heaven forbid) we dropped down to 7/8 I would favor Kaminsky, presuming all the big names, including WCS are gone.

Also, in the past two games Towns has improved a great deal. Quite possibly enough to surpass OK4. I was a middle-of-the-roader previously on Towns. I was never wild about him and said that he had NOT yet impressed me in college and that he was living on his pre-college rep. But again, I now see considerable improvement, albeit against mediocre competition.

[newyorker4ever]

Maybe so, but how many points will he give up on the other end?

I'm becoming much more enamored with Towns than OK4 of late. And I have a sneaky feeling if given the choice PJax might agree with me.

That's a pretty big change for the way you've been coming down on people on here that have been Towns fans because you were the biggest fan of OK4 and the biggest hater of the Towns fans right??

Say what? I was never a big fan of OK4. What I had been saying is that I think Kaminsky is a much better pick than the "14th" most mocks have for him. But I was never a huge OK4 fan. If for some reason (heaven forbid) we dropped down to 7/8 I would favor Kaminsky, presuming all the big names, including WCS are gone.

Also, in the past two games Towns has improved a great deal. Quite possibly enough to surpass OK4. I was a middle-of-the-roader previously on Towns. I was never wild about him and said that he had NOT yet impressed me in college and that he was living on his pre-college rep. But again, I now see considerable improvement, albeit against mediocre competition.

That's right it was Kaminsky you were a fan of over Towns and you gave a lot of crap to the Towns fans. My bad i thought it was OK4 but now i remember it was Kaminsky. Glad to see you coming around on Towns though cause the kid is getting better and better as he grows.

[Retired_Doc]

That's a pretty big change for the way you've been coming down on people on here that have been Towns fans because you were the biggest fan of OK4 and the biggest hater of the Towns fans right??

Say what? I was never a big fan of OK4. What I had been saying is that I think Kaminsky is a much better pick than the "14th" most mocks have for him. But I was never a huge OK4 fan. If for some reason (heaven forbid) we dropped down to 7/8 I would favor Kaminsky, presuming all the big names, including WCS are gone.

Also, in the past two games Towns has improved a great deal. Quite possibly enough to surpass OK4. I was a middle-of-the-roader previously on Towns. I was never wild about him and said that he had NOT yet impressed me in college and that he was living on his pre-college rep. But again, I now see considerable improvement, albeit against mediocre competition.

That's right it was Kaminsky you were a fan of over Towns and you gave a lot of crap to the Towns fans. My bad i thought it was OK4 but now i remember it was Kaminsky. Glad to see you coming around on Towns though cause the kid is getting better and better as he grows.

I am a HUGE Kentucky fan. Have been for thirty yrs. I once lived in Lexington, KY and attended dozens of games. So I would be happy if this "new and improved" Towns continues to improve and gets picked by PJax.