Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[VooDoo7]

For those saying they'd trade Jabari for Drummond, would you feel this way had Jabari not gotten hurt? Or does that have nothing to do with it?

I love Drummond. But I still don't think I could trade Jabari for him.

[BUCKSFORLIFE]

Jabari for Drummond is probably close value wise today. Adding two firsts is ludicrous.

Did you forget Jabari will be returning from Major Knee surgery? Too many people assume he will pick up where he left off. How does anyone know that? Secondly one of the 2 first round picks one will be the pic we obtained from the Clippers. This is a protect pick and could turn into a pair second round pics if Clippers were to take a dive which is feasible. We would still have our other first round pick. since late 1st round pics are crapshoots, this make a lot of sense.

[ampd]

Not doing Jabari for Drummond straight to me is nuts, and I love Jabari. Giannis/Drummond is the best PF/C duo in the league for a decade plus, and Drummond gives what we really, really need, and that's a glass eater. It doesn't matter either way, no chance we are trading Jabari, but in terms of league wide assets, Drummond is definitely ranked ahead of Parker.

This is what would tempt me to give up whatever to get Drummond.

Assuming natural progression, even if Giannis only becomes a 2nd tier star instead of a top 5 player, with Knight / Middleton / floor spacing wing / Giannis / Drummond who wants to play us? That team could be dominant on both ends of the court for years and years, and is incredibly easy to fit roleplayers around.

[BUCKSFORLIFE]

For those saying they'd trade Jabari for Drummond, would you feel this way had Jabari not gotten hurt? Or does that have nothing to do with it?

I love Drummond. But I still don't think I could trade Jabari for him.

I liked Drummond before but the fact that Jabari is set back for sure and may never be the player he could of been, yes it makes even more sense now. Jabari is an unknown and with Drummond you get a beast on the boards and fairly good defender who runs the floor.

[Eeavers57]

If Sanders doesn't come back, what do we want as a new C? Since we are so used to Sanders being a defensive freak in the past, do we need to find another center that is all defense? I like Greg Monroe, but he isn't a rim protector or a good defender. Does giannis/henson cover Monroe's bad defending? Should we be looking for a more defensive center?

EDIT: just watched some more film of monroe, I don't like him anymore

[WRau1]

I don't think there is a fair deal centered around Jabari for Drummond that the Pistons would accept, and they shouldn't.

[ampd]

If Sanders doesn't come back, what do we want as a new C? Since we are so used to Sanders being a defensive freak in the past, do we need to find another center that is all defense? I like Greg Monroe, but he isn't a rim protector or a good defender. Does giannis/henson cover Monroe's bad defending? Should we be looking for a more defensive center?

Either an all around C in the Al Horford mold (DMO and Monroe are probably the best targets there) or someone who can do what Tyson Chandler does for Dallas. I don't think we need a flashy shotblocker, but we do need someone who can dominate their matchup on the boards most nights.

[BUCKSFORLIFE]

This is an interesting one.

I really really like Jabari, and I have no idea if the Pistons are rebuilding or what, but the more I think about it the more tempted I am.

You're crazy. I wouldn't even do Jabari straight up for Drummond, let alone including 2 first round picks.

Yeah I more meant a swap with the 2 major pieces being Jabari and Drummond. If we're giving up the farm we better be getting back

Many people here are thinking that knight and middleton are going to be 12 and 10 million to resign. I think a little less as in 10 million per for Brandon and 8 million per for Kris. With these number we can still put 12 or 13 into Mathews. Keep in mind the cap will rise significantly in the coming years. If we get Sanders off the books then it be no problem for sure.

[breakchains]

I keep forgetting about McGary. He's my main target and a guy I'd give up a good amount for. Henson and LAC 1st?

[breakchains]

Heck no to Afflalo. No way am I giving up assets to go that route.

And no to Jabari for Drummond.

[ampd]

You're crazy. I wouldn't even do Jabari straight up for Drummond, let alone including 2 first round picks.

Yeah I more meant a swap with the 2 major pieces being Jabari and Drummond. If we're giving up the farm we better be getting back

Many people here are thinking that knight and middleton are going to be 12 and 10 million to resign. I think a little less as in 10 million per for Brandon and 8 million per for Kris. With these number we can still put 12 or 13 into Mathews. Keep in mind the cap will rise significantly in the coming years. If we get Sanders off the books then it be no problem for sure.

Well yeah. Roster wise, if our 4 guys are Knight / Middleton / Giannis / Drummond, the 5th guy we put with them has a ridiculous amount of flexibility. Knight / Middleton / Giannis can all play at least 2 positions effectively right now.

You can go with a Dudley / Danny Green type, or even a stretch 4 like Ryan Andersen or the good version of Ersan if you'd rather have a big lineup. Hell you could pick up a big PG and play Knight at the 2. Fitting in guys to play with a group like that would be the least of our problems

[yoshii8]

There are some big time centers up for free agency after this year in Monroe, Marc Gasol, Chandler, Koufos, Jordan, Ed Davis, Robin Lopez and so on. I think we need to find a suitor for Ersan to free up money for next year to pay a center.

[ampd]

It occurs to me that in the Jabari vs Giannis thread early in the season the main reason to take Jabari was we knew what he was going to be able to do. That has almost completely reversed itself at this point. Crazy

[breakchains]

I'd honestly probably give up our 2015 1st and Henson to get McGary if it came down to it.

[RRyder823]

Jabari for Drummond is probably close value wise today. Adding two firsts is ludicrous.

Pistons would laugh the Bucks off the phone, and that's if we're including picks.

Really? When did Drummond turn into Shaq? He'd have to have turned into a dominant player if we're getting "laughed" off the phone including Jabari n 2 firsts. Maybe I missed when Drummond turned into a beast

[jakecronus8]

First I've seen of Mitch this year. Not bad. Possibly attainable.

[ampd]

Really? When did Drummond turn into Shaq? He'd have to have turned into a dominant player if we're getting "laughed" off the phone including Jabari n 2 firsts. Maybe I missed when Drummond turned into a beast

Drummond is probably the best rebounder in the league.

[ReasonablySober]

Jabari for Drummond is probably close value wise today. Adding two firsts is ludicrous.

Pistons would laugh the Bucks off the phone, and that's if we're including picks.

Really? When did Drummond turn into Shaq? He'd have to have turned into a dominant player if we're getting "laughed" off the phone including Jabari n 2 firsts. Maybe I missed when Drummond turned into a beast

When did Jabari and his torn ACL turn into LeBron?

[jakecronus8]

Drummond is an amazing rebounder, but he's pretty much a glorified garbage man on offense, and from what I've seen, he's not a very smart defender. I just think Jabari has higher upside as one of the best all around scorers in the league and a good rebounder for his position.

[breakchains]

McGary making himself unattainable the first game he sets foot on the court. We wanted him too.