Dwane Casey's Guide to Smallball

[Rapcity_11]

We need to get a bunch of these printed out on posters and bring them out to the game. Maybe then the Raptors coaching staff can see how stupid their offense has been.

Yeah, what a stupid offense that's #2 Ortg in the league. It would easily be #1 if not for how stupid it is.

[Indeed]

Sorry, but I'm not changing any facts. These players have played the positions I listed then at for their entire careers until this season. Because off the fact that we play them in different roles doesn't mean their natural position changes. We are misusing them. Also, amir can't stretch the floor from the high post? News to me.

That is not true, Amir has been playing a lot of C with Bargnani as well. Hansbrough has been playing C, he is the one backing up Jonas. The team roster is undersize, we put a lot of salary at PG/SG (and wasted at SF - Fields). We didn't invest a lot in our bigs.

Amir CAN play some C, and due to our roster construction over the years, has done so from time to time. I still don't think that makes him a C, though. Skillset is not what determines position. Who you can guard is what determines position IMO. Your premise is that because we play them like C's, and Tyler, Amir don't have the skillset of a stretch 4, (high post, 3's), that makes them C's. That is incorrect. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this. Again, Casey is misusing them, and we shouldn't define each guy's position based on how Casey has used them since my original point was that he puts them out of position in the first place. Also, why do you consider DD and Ross to be undersized SF's? Both are clearly SG's regardless how they've been used by Casey.

And Hayes should be a SF? Again, please don't try to change the fact to make your point, skillset is the best way to determine position. If you have a vision to play the PG, even you are 6'8 and can guard SF, you are a PG.

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Brilliant.

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[Morse Code]

That is not true, Amir has been playing a lot of C with Bargnani as well. Hansbrough has been playing C, he is the one backing up Jonas. The team roster is undersize, we put a lot of salary at PG/SG (and wasted at SF - Fields). We didn't invest a lot in our bigs.

Amir CAN play some C, and due to our roster construction over the years, has done so from time to time. I still don't think that makes him a C, though. Skillset is not what determines position. Who you can guard is what determines position IMO. Your premise is that because we play them like C's, and Tyler, Amir don't have the skillset of a stretch 4, (high post, 3's), that makes them C's. That is incorrect. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this. Again, Casey is misusing them, and we shouldn't define each guy's position based on how Casey has used them since my original point was that he puts them out of position in the first place. Also, why do you consider DD and Ross to be undersized SF's? Both are clearly SG's regardless how they've been used by Casey.

And Hayes should be a SF? Again, please don't try to change the fact to make your point, skillset is the best way to determine position. If you have a vision to play the PG, even you are 6'8 and can guard SF, you are a PG.

Your reading comprehension is awful. I didn't say size determines it either, which would make Chuck a SF. I said whatever position they can guard determines it. You think Chuck can guard a SF? I would never put a 6'8" guy at PG unless he could guard that position, and that would be very rare. Point forward is the term but they would still be playing their normal position, with a more ball dominant role.

[Indeed]

That is not true, Amir has been playing a lot of C with Bargnani as well. Hansbrough has been playing C, he is the one backing up Jonas. The team roster is undersize, we put a lot of salary at PG/SG (and wasted at SF - Fields). We didn't invest a lot in our bigs.

Amir CAN play some C, and due to our roster construction over the years, has done so from time to time. I still don't think that makes him a C, though. Skillset is not what determines position. Who you can guard is what determines position IMO. Your premise is that because we play them like C's, and Tyler, Amir don't have the skillset of a stretch 4, (high post, 3's), that makes them C's. That is incorrect. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this. Again, Casey is misusing them, and we shouldn't define each guy's position based on how Casey has used them since my original point was that he puts them out of position in the first place. Also, why do you consider DD and Ross to be undersized SF's? Both are clearly SG's regardless how they've been used by Casey.

And Hayes should be a SF? Again, please don't try to change the fact to make your point, skillset is the best way to determine position. If you have a vision to play the PG, even you are 6'8 and can guard SF, you are a PG.

What about players who can't defend their position
Jose Calderon is not a PG?

[Jstock12]

Everytime this thread gets bumped, I'm a little afraid I'll get warned for this post

[cruwinas]

Smallball is better with two small balls

This thread is a gold mine.

[J-Roc]

[Lowrys Chode]

You forgot the legendary PG-PG-PG line up from last year with DeColo at small forward.

Or this year's Lowry, Vasquez, Williams, Ross, Patterson debacle.

PG-PG-PG-SG-PF

[Clutch Carter]

[Elden Payton]

This thread is the best in the history of the internet.

No small feat.

[OakleyDokely]

I think this thread needs a bump.

[JWiLL02]

[Inevitable]

Everytime this thread gets bumped, I'm a little afraid I'll get warned for this post

You're a very ballsy guy to post that

[Reg00]

Sorry, but I'm not changing any facts. These players have played the positions I listed then at for their entire careers until this season. Because off the fact that we play them in different roles doesn't mean their natural position changes. We are misusing them. Also, amir can't stretch the floor from the high post? News to me.

That is not true, Amir has been playing a lot of C with Bargnani as well. Hansbrough has been playing C, he is the one backing up Jonas. The team roster is undersize, we put a lot of salary at PG/SG (and wasted at SF - Fields). We didn't invest a lot in our bigs.

Amir CAN play some C, and due to our roster construction over the years, has done so from time to time. I still don't think that makes him a C, though. Skillset is not what determines position. Who you can guard is what determines position IMO. Your premise is that because we play them like C's, and Tyler, Amir don't have the skillset of a stretch 4, (high post, 3's), that makes them C's. That is incorrect. I don't know what is so hard to understand about this. Again, Casey is misusing them, and we shouldn't define each guy's position based on how Casey has used them since my original point was that he puts them out of position in the first place. Also, why do you consider DD and Ross to be undersized SF's? Both are clearly SG's regardless how they've been used by Casey.

Fun fact, one of my favorite use of the center position was Boris Diaw with the Suns. That team will go down as one of the most influential teams of this era. I said influential, not successful mind you.

[Randle McMurphy]

Yep, this one gets more apt every game.

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[Son Goku 25]

LOL no chill

[Clutch Carter]