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Post#3681 » by M-C-G » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:11 pm

Milbuck wrote:Kanter is intriguing but a bit scary. Dude is absolutely terrible defensively..he's gonna be a solid post scorer for years, and at the very least his strength means we won't be totally bullied around as is the case w/ Henson..but if we're playing Giannis at PF, it's gonna put a lot of strain on him having to carry the entire defensive burden in the paint/at the rim. It sucks, a non-stonehands better finishing version of Larry would really be the perfect player for this team.


Yeah, I have heard the defensive struggles and maybe incorrectly, but I keep thinking if Kidd can get the guys he has playing elite defense, he can make Kanter average.

I mean look at the guys we have, other than Giannis and maybe to a lesser extent Henson, none of them have ever been considered plus defensive players. It's the effort and the system, so I don't see any reason why Kanter couldn't be decent.

And you'd still have ZaZa and Henson to use for specific match ups.
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Post#3682 » by GoldenAntlers » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:15 pm

Please trade JOB for Bass of that is an option.
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Post#3683 » by Badgerlander » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:19 pm

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Post#3684 » by RayRayJones » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:19 pm

JOB + Clips 1st for Bass seems to make sense for both teams. Throw in a 2nd rounder if need be, considering Ainge wants to add to his Mount Everest of draft picks over in Beantown.
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Post#3685 » by Garden Of Edens » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:24 pm

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Garden Of Edens wrote:So let me get this straight after all the pages people really want Stauskas and Kanter, REALLY??? We're better than this, i'm sorry but trading for those players do nothing for us


I think Kanter brings some physicality, inside scoring and rebounding...IF, he buys in to the system (offense AND defense), he is only 22 with the potential to be super ZaZa (minus the passing) and grow with our core...how is that a bad thing?

I'm all for looking at other guys too. I just think he gives us a lot of what we are lacking with plenty of upside. I could easily be talked into O'Quinn, Koufos and maybe even Monroe as well.

What do you think we should do?


I'd prefer someone like Thad Young (until Parker is healthy), possibly Al Jefferson (if the Hornets feel they need to rebuild) or a guy we really need to bang down low is Pekovic. Now those are all expensive players but honestly now that we signed Jorge to a 2nd 10 day, it doesn't look like Sanders is coming back
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Post#3686 » by Badgerlander » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:25 pm

No way I'd give the Clips 1st away for Bass on an expiring contract
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Post#3687 » by M-C-G » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:26 pm

RayRayJones wrote:JOB + Clips 1st for Bass seems to make sense for both teams. Throw in a 2nd rounder if need be, considering Ainge wants to add to his Mount Everest of draft picks over in Beantown.


Oh, I am not adding anything to take on ~3M of Bass' remaining salary...They get a TPE and JOB, that should be plenty...Otherwise we need to be looking at teams that are into the luxury tax that simply need to shed salary by the end of the year, and look for a useful player to absorb plus receive something.
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Post#3688 » by LUKE23 » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:27 pm

RayRayJones wrote:JOB + Clips 1st for Bass seems to make sense for both teams. Throw in a 2nd rounder if need be, considering Ainge wants to add to his Mount Everest of draft picks over in Beantown.


A first round pick for less than 50 games of Brandon Bass? Why in the world would we do that?
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Post#3689 » by MadBlueEdwards » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:29 pm

Badgerlander wrote:No way I'd give the Clips 1st away for Bass on an expiring contract


Yeah, me neither. I know it'll be a late pick, but it's still more valuable than Brandon Bass.
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Post#3690 » by RayRayJones » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:36 pm

Because what is that pick going to be worth? A pick in the 20s isn't worth much. And maybe Bass comes in here, helps us win a playoff series, and resigns. I think he would be a GREAT mentor to Jabari if we're planning on having him play the 4.
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Post#3691 » by ampd » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:37 pm

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RayRayJones wrote:JOB + Clips 1st for Bass seems to make sense for both teams. Throw in a 2nd rounder if need be, considering Ainge wants to add to his Mount Everest of draft picks over in Beantown.


A first round pick for less than 50 games of Brandon Bass? Why in the world would we do that?

Job + 1st +2nd for 30 games of Brandon bass would be one of the most ridiculous overpays in the history of the league.
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Post#3692 » by M-C-G » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:44 pm

RayRayJones wrote:Because what is that pick going to be worth? A pick in the 20s isn't worth much. And maybe Bass comes in here, helps us win a playoff series, and resigns. I think he would be a GREAT mentor to Jabari if we're planning on having him play the 4.


In 2011 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Jimmy Butler or Chandler Parsons
In 2012 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Perry Jones, Draymon Green
In 2013 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Rudy Gobert or Archie Goodwin
In 2014 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Mitch McGary or Clint Capela (which we were unable to trade up for)


Hitting on any one of those, would be worth a hell of a lot.
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Post#3693 » by TroyD92 » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:49 pm

People have this notion that Brandon Bass is good. It confuses me.
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Post#3694 » by Dcebucks11 » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:52 pm

RayRayJones wrote:Because what is that pick going to be worth? A pick in the 20s isn't worth much. And maybe Bass comes in here, helps us win a playoff series, and resigns. I think he would be a GREAT mentor to Jabari if we're planning on having him play the 4.


i hope we're not planning on keeping him at the 4, his rim protection and rebounding is brutal and Giannis should be there eventually.
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Post#3695 » by yoshii8 » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:53 pm

Why all of the Brandon Bass love?
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Post#3696 » by CanadaBucks » Mon Feb 9, 2015 5:54 pm

Youth movement!
No more mediocre vets!!


Let's trade JOB and a 1st for Brandon Bass!!!!


Yuck, and that goes whether we're including the pick or not
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Post#3697 » by RayRayJones » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:04 pm

M-C-G wrote:
RayRayJones wrote:Because what is that pick going to be worth? A pick in the 20s isn't worth much. And maybe Bass comes in here, helps us win a playoff series, and resigns. I think he would be a GREAT mentor to Jabari if we're planning on having him play the 4.


In 2011 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Jimmy Butler or Chandler Parsons
In 2012 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Perry Jones, Draymon Green
In 2013 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Rudy Gobert or Archie Goodwin
In 2014 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Mitch McGary or Clint Capela (which we were unable to trade up for)


Hitting on any one of those, would be worth a hell of a lot.


Yes, could have. No guarantees. I understand the hype of keeping the pick in hopes of hitting on a player with starting caliber, but the reality is the insane majority of players picked in the 20s turn out to be role players. Now certainly Bass is another one of those role players, especially by now in his career.

Would you guys do the Clippers 1st straight up for Bass then? I agree it is an overpay, but I don't think it's as ridiculous as being made out.
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Post#3698 » by Giannis Parker » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:07 pm

If the Bucks included a 1st to get Bass I would blow a gasket, JoB for Bass is more than fair.

That Clippers pick for all intents and purposes could wind up being as high as the 15th pick, just look at the injury issues that team is having and they also have a lot of pending decisions that need to be made over the next 2 years. The pick is lottery protected so it is not golden, but it is certainly worth a heck of a lot more than Brandon Bass.
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Post#3699 » by BMatt07 » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:09 pm

RayRayJones wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
RayRayJones wrote:Because what is that pick going to be worth? A pick in the 20s isn't worth much. And maybe Bass comes in here, helps us win a playoff series, and resigns. I think he would be a GREAT mentor to Jabari if we're planning on having him play the 4.


In 2011 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Jimmy Butler or Chandler Parsons
In 2012 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Perry Jones, Draymon Green
In 2013 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Rudy Gobert or Archie Goodwin
In 2014 that kind of pick could have likely netted you Mitch McGary or Clint Capela (which we were unable to trade up for)


Hitting on any one of those, would be worth a hell of a lot.


Yes, could have. No guarantees. I understand the hype of keeping the pick in hopes of hitting on a player with starting caliber, but the reality is the insane majority of players picked in the 20s turn out to be role players. Now certainly Bass is another one of those role players, especially by now in his career.

Would you guys do the Clippers 1st straight up for Bass then? I agree it is an overpay, but I don't think it's as ridiculous as being made out.


A first round pick for Bass? This must be some sick joke.

NO.
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Post#3700 » by Perishable517 » Mon Feb 9, 2015 6:10 pm

No Bass. No no no.

Keep the Clips 1st. With that and the Bucks 1st, you could potentially move up.

I want no part of any trade where we give up a 1st this year. ESPECIALLY not for a classic journeyman.
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