Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII

[dckingsfan]

Minny possibly looking to flip (pun intended) Gary Neal after swapping Mo Williams for him. Any takers? I wouldn't mind this...

Seraphin+Miller for Neal+Budinger

Minnesota would make that trade.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Minny can trade Neal now...

[wolves_89]

Minny possibly looking to flip (pun intended) Gary Neal after swapping Mo Williams for him. Any takers? I wouldn't mind this...

Seraphin+Miller for Neal+Budinger

Minnesota would make that trade.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Minny can trade Neal now...

They can, he just can't be combined with other players. The trade above could be done as two separate 1-for-1 deals.

[deneem4]

No, that is not the main issue. The main issue Randy running an offense that maximizes the talents of his players and putting them on the floor in combinations that maximize the rotations. More PnR, PnP. More corner 3s. Less long 2s.

And

The problem is some stubburn fans expectations for this year. This was never supposed to be the year they made a title run.

if the team keeps getting better and better and you are missing the boat the entire way year after year..
The problem isn't Ted/EG ... Its you.

50-52 wins was all that was expected this year. Experts projected 49. They won 44 last year and it was an easier conference.

If they win over 50 while Wall becoming WallStar, while keeping cap, and picks, and repairing their reputation more,

that's solid progress.

as a franchise you should never settle for mediocre success,
we have a title potential team if beal get right and gortat can perform like hes paid too...
it falls on wittman but at the same time we haven't executed wittman offense correctly regardless...
beal should be shooting those long 2s much better
wall should be getting tk the line more
and gortat should be able to finish downlow

our key players are lacking, and we're still a top 5 in a weak conference, settling for thst isnt going to make this a preferred destination for Durant

Sure. If you ignore everything I wrote. You have an axe to grind. Like I said and you reiterated. The problem lies with those who have higher expectation and a different time line then the franchise does. Those same people that focus on the older players that aren't going to be here in 1-2 years that where brought here to help stabilize the team and team Wall, Beal, Otto and even Kevin. All younger players. I'm said it a 100 times. Start a few years ago, they decided to trim back on young players and focus on the only one or ones that matter. Starting with WALLSTAR.

People wanted a plan. We they laid one out. And so far, it look like they are sticking to it. This was not the year they assembled a title team. This is a another year to grow Wall, repair the franchises reputation, get more playoff experience, get cap and assets and have the team learn from Paul. Specially come playoff time.

They are now a franchise that will be the legit running for almost any FA that comes available. And if they trade for someone, that someone isn't going to ask for a buy out like they had in the past when we sucked.

If they catch fire and get out of the 2nd round.. Great. But not required. Not this year. This is a growth year.

What I expect and what I expect they expect is to get out of the first round and fight to try to get out of the 2nd.

I expect them to learn to play with a lead. How to put teams away. How to start believing they can win a title in the next 2-3 years. And for Wall to become WALLSTAR in this round of playoffs.

Anyone with expectations higher then that are setting up their own axe to grind.

but u cant grow WALLSTAR with mediocre team thats under performing...
itbwould be different if the vets had specific specialities but theyre jus average all around guys...
u grow your younger players thru adversity not mediocrity...
il rather have the team wall carried for 30 games offensively and defensively at the end of 2013...let him know that he has tk have big games every night...rather than settling for getting other average guys going who not going to be apart of his future...durant will have off nights if he come, and wall has to know tht he going to have to carry the weight, he hasnt done that much this yr...and its cause the team expect more from the vets...has wall even had a 30point game this year yet? he had 2 in the 1st couple games but seeing westbrook, kyrie, curry, lillard, Lowry, even rose dominate games has to be discouraging, if wall is the leader he has to score more...but this team allows him to settle with beinh a passer and thts not bad but were not winning games like that (maybe its the personal)

[LyricalRico]

Minnesota would make that trade.

I could be wrong, but I don't think Minny can trade Neal now...

They can, he just can't be combined with other players. The trade above could be done as two separate 1-for-1 deals.

Exactly. They'd have to structure it as separate deals, but it's workable. Looking at it again, I'd try to squeeze at least one 2nd out of Minny for taking the last year of Budinger's contract off their hands. But it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.

[Dark Faze]

Neal will be a free agent apparently. He's been a woeful shooter this year, but he's got ties to the area...

[LyricalRico]

I'd be far more interested in making a deal for Thad Young. It's too bad the Wizards don't really have any assets to make it happen.

I agree on Thad, and I've posted some ideas before. Based on what other teams have been giving up, expirings and a heavily protected first might get it done.

If we were to expand it, I'd be willing to give up Porter if we got some other sweetener in return (I'd love Dieng, but that's probably too much to ask for). Especially considering that the presence of Pierce/Young on the team would mean zero opportunity for Porter this year and next.

[Dark Faze]

That would be terrible

[80sballboy]

Sorry, I'm biased having gone to Towson and watched Gary dozens of times live and on tv. Of, course Ray Allen would be a better offensive pickup if he can still play but GNeal while streaky and having a bad year would be better than Webster by far. He can also play some point though of course, once a shooter, always a shooter.

[queridiculo]

If we were to expand it, I'd be willing to give up Porter if we got some other sweetener in return (I'd love Dieng, but that's probably too much to ask for). Especially considering that the presence of Pierce/Young on the team would mean zero opportunity for Porter this year and next.

Well, I wouldn't deal Porter, and if I were to bring Young aboard I'd play him at PF primarily, and try to deal Hump to get rid of Websters contract.

[payitforward]

Thaddeus Young on our team instead of Humphries makes us a worse team. Neal isn't a good player; why do we want him?

[WallToWall]

Our best scenario is "money for nothing and cheques for free"... wait for Amare buy out, wait for Garnett buy out, then go for one or both. Go for Ray Allen, and call it done.
Garnett/Amare, Hump, Porter/Pierce, Allen/Butler, Miller. Thats not a bad bench. We would have enough scoring, rebounding, and defense for a 2nd unit...heck it may even be the best bench (on paper).

[Sluggerface]

Would much rather take a chance on Bargnani than Stoudemire. If we're going to go out and get a defensive sieve, I'd much rather get a defensive sieve who can at least shoot threes.

[Ruzious]

A player to target now is Clint Capella of the Rockets. They're not even playing him with both Howard and Terrance Jones out - but he put up Shaq-like numbers in the D league. He's basically a more gifted slimmer version of Seraphin - at 20 years old - but they think he's too raw to play. If they like Seraphin, it could work out, because that would allow us to take back Shved and save them money next season. We could also give them the rights to Satoransky.

[nuposse04]

A player to target now is Clint Capella of the Rockets. They're not even playing him with both Howard and Terrance Jones out - but he put up Shaq-like numbers in the D league. He's basically a more gifted slimmer version of Seraphin - at 20 years old - but they think he's too raw to play. If they like Seraphin, it could work out, because that would allow us to take back Shved and save them money next season. We could also give them the rights to Satoransky.

I'd be for this. Capela seemed like a great prospect. I think Morey is intelligent enough to know bringing him up from the D-League might be better then trusting Seraphin.

[dckingsfan]

Feb. 19 -- 2015 NBA Trade Deadline (3 p.m. ET)

[payitforward]

A player to target now is Clint Capella of the Rockets. They're not even playing him with both Howard and Terrance Jones out - but he put up Shaq-like numbers in the D league. He's basically a more gifted slimmer version of Seraphin - at 20 years old - but they think he's too raw to play. If they like Seraphin, it could work out, because that would allow us to take back Shved and save them money next season. We could also give them the rights to Satoransky.

Absolutely! He is ripping it up in the D League, he is *very* young with a bright future, and we'd have him locked up for a few years on a rookie contract. He'd be a great acquisition.

But... I don't see Morey trading away a guy he picked in R1 less than 8 months ago. Certainly not for Seraphin. Plus, CC's rookie contract makes him so cheap that saving Shved's modest salary next year might not seem a big deal either.

[Ruzious]

A player to target now is Clint Capella of the Rockets. They're not even playing him with both Howard and Terrance Jones out - but he put up Shaq-like numbers in the D league. He's basically a more gifted slimmer version of Seraphin - at 20 years old - but they think he's too raw to play. If they like Seraphin, it could work out, because that would allow us to take back Shved and save them money next season. We could also give them the rights to Satoransky.

Absolutely! He is ripping it up in the D League, he is *very* young with a bright future, and we'd have him locked up for a few years on a rookie contract. He'd be a great acquisition.

But... I don't see Morey trading away a guy he picked in R1 less than 8 months ago. Certainly not for Seraphin. Plus, CC's rookie contract makes him so cheap that saving Shved's modest salary next year might not seem a big deal either.

Probably not - but Adrien Payne - who was picked 10 picks higher than Capella - was traded yesterday for what might end up being distant future 2nd round picks.

[gambitx777]

I think that a Kevin and Blair + a second
for
Shved, Terry and Capela
Saves them a lot of money and gives them some bodies up front, also opens up a spot so they can bring in a guard. like will bynum!

Shved would be a nice back up for the wiz and terry we can flip or cut or keep i guess. Capela would play right away and fit in well here! Plus we can cut gooden and have spots to bring in a guys like Amare or KG when they get bought out.

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I think Kanter would be a good 3rd big and in a few years starter for your team.