Alex Kennedy: Raps willing to package Ross + JV to land a star

gamer1035 · Post #161 » by **gamer1035** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:05 am

Cousins for Demar + Val.

Cousins-Lowry is what we need. Then sign KD in 2016 and proceed to win the championship.

vaff87 · Post #162 » by **vaff87** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:21 am

You guys are living in a fantasyland. Demarcus Cousins isn't going to be traded right now.

OAKLEY_2 · Post #163 » by **OAKLEY_2** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:27 am

gamer1035 wrote:Cousins for Demar + Val.

Cousins-Lowry is what we need. Then sign KD in 2016 and proceed to win the championship.

It would be insane to trade 22 year old JV. He may well be headed for a Marc Gasol career. In fact moving Ross, JV, Bruno or Bebe now kind of burns our future potential. Kanter is the guy we should get. Then we have one more asset for a potential package a year from now. That's only a 5 hour drive to Amir's new Vegas palace from Salt Lake.

Dennis 37 · Post #164 » by **Dennis 37** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:27 am

AreBe wrote:Personally, I’m a fan of Highland Park- it’s my favorite scotch. Woodfords’ Reserve is my favorite bourbon. Drink them as I may, I still don’t see the Raps trading question marks like Ross and JV for anything approaching a star. So if any of you here think the Raptors are going to be trading away kids with upside, and that other teams will be taking question marks for hall of famers, please let me know what your favorite poison is, because I might want to give it a try!

I like the flow of this post. having said that stupid GMs will do almost anything. How else did New Jersey get Vince Carter without giving up anyone of quality?

I would take JV and Ross for 2004 Vince Carter any day over the lump of coal that was deliverd from New Jersey.

Harcore Fenton Mun · Post #165 » by **Harcore Fenton Mun** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:45 am

If you can trade those two for a legit star like Cousins, you make that trade as fast as you can.

They would have to be giving us something good to get JV, something worth our time. I wouldn't do that for Faried, for example.

Saciid11 · Post #166 » by **Saciid11** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:56 am

I can't some fans here don't want to trade for the best center in the league ... I would not only trade JV + Ross, but I would throw in couple of first round picks and even more ... This team with Boogie + Lowry + Demar is legit contenders for eastern conference final ...

sca · Post #167 » by **sca** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:07 am

SoIwontGetFined wrote:DMC would get ROASTED by this board for his defensive effort and deficinies

Sounds exactly like someone who hasn't watched DMC play. He has been of the best defending bigmen in the league so far this year.

We're not getting him anyway, but one can dream, right?

TheWire · Post #168 » by **TheWire** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:16 am

i hate how this thread is giving me hope that we may actually land Cousins.

i give it a 2% chance of happening cause you know, anything can happen.

JVdaman · Post #169 » by **JVdaman** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:30 am

sca wrote:I'd trade Val + Ross + my left nut for Cousins.

I am not sure about Boogie but Raps is going to land a SF , a PF or both.

KL/GV
DD/Lou
???/JJ/Bruno
PP/???/Bebe
JV/Steimsma/Hayes

TRoss and Amir Johnson are definitely moved by trade deadline.

sca · Post #170 » by **sca** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:39 am

JVdaman wrote:
sca wrote:I'd trade Val + Ross + my left nut for Cousins.

I am not sure about Boogie but Raps is going to land a SF , a PF or both.

KL/GV
DD/Lou
???/JJ/Bruno
PP/???/Bebe
JV/Steimsma/Hayes

TRoss and Amir Johnson are definitely moved by trade deadline.

I don't think we're going to move Amir. At all.

Axe Dragon · Post #171 » by **Axe Dragon** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:01 am

CB4real wrote:Well it would have to be a star from a non-playoff team. The only REAL stars on non-playoff teams right now are Boogie, Carmelo, Anthony Davis, Hayward (ish), and Wiggins.

Carmelo - just no for obvious reasons
KD / Westbrook - untouchable
Anthony Davis - untouchable
Hayward - not a position of need
Wiggins - Franchise player
Boogie - The only realistic trade option

Dumb question... Who is boogie? That's what I call Alvin Williams.

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deeps6x · Post #172 » by **deeps6x** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:23 am

Basketball_Jones wrote:JV/Ross/picks is probably the only reasonable deal Masai can offer. Maybe you swap out Ross and put in Derozan. Otherwise, that's kind of highway robbery unless SAC is 100 percent sold that JV is a future star.

I don't know man. If you make it JV and DD for Cousins, you are kind of betting the farm that TRoss turns into DD this summer, AND that Cousins isn't as much of a head case as he seems to be - AND will want to stay in Toronto, Canada.

wicked_crossova · Post #173 » by **wicked_crossova** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:26 am

Axe Dragon wrote:
CB4real wrote:Well it would have to be a star from a non-playoff team. The only REAL stars on non-playoff teams right now are Boogie, Carmelo, Anthony Davis, Hayward (ish), and Wiggins.

Carmelo - just no for obvious reasons
KD / Westbrook - untouchable
Anthony Davis - untouchable
Hayward - not a position of need
Wiggins - Franchise player
Boogie - The only realistic trade option

Dumb question... Who is boogie? That's what I call Alvin Williams.

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Boogie is DeMarcus Cousins

suntzuballin · Post #174 » by **suntzuballin** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:31 am

Soon as i clicked on thread i knew demarcus cousins be on majoity of the list.

TdotRap4Lyfe · Post #175 » by **TdotRap4Lyfe** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:09 am

I doubt anyone would be giving away their star right now, so It's safe to say this writer is just pointing out the obvious, we'd be willing to trade our core for better core pieces.

Axe Dragon · Post #176 » by **Axe Dragon** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:25 am

wicked_crossova wrote:
Axe Dragon wrote:
CB4real wrote:Well it would have to be a star from a non-playoff team. The only REAL stars on non-playoff teams right now are Boogie, Carmelo, Anthony Davis, Hayward (ish), and Wiggins.

Carmelo - just no for obvious reasons
KD / Westbrook - untouchable
Anthony Davis - untouchable
Hayward - not a position of need
Wiggins - Franchise player
Boogie - The only realistic trade option

Dumb question... Who is boogie? That's what I call Alvin Williams.

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Boogie is DeMarcus Cousins

Thanks.

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Kings2013 · Post #177 » by **Kings2013** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:26 am

deeps6x wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:JV/Ross/picks is probably the only reasonable deal Masai can offer. Maybe you swap out Ross and put in Derozan. Otherwise, that's kind of highway robbery unless SAC is 100 percent sold that JV is a future star.

I don't know man. If you make it JV and DD for Cousins, you are kind of betting the farm that TRoss turns into DD this summer, AND that Cousins isn't as much of a head case as he seems to be - AND will want to stay in Toronto, Canada.

I'm not going to comment on the pieces or trade, as we as Kings fans like DeMarcus, but the philosophy of betting the farm For a star that you mention

To get a young player of top 10 stature someone is giving value. Rarely is it that you can pick up a player of that quality by giving your extra parts. Just doesn't work that way. Especially when that player has three years remaining and the rest of the league would give quality offers

Whoever trades for superstars usually takes risk and makes sacrifices. If Westbrook comes onto the market I would understand that when contemplating him for my team. As a Kings fan I don't personally consider Cousins on the market though

safetdot · Post #178 » by **safetdot** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 5:31 am

Kings2013 wrote:
deeps6x wrote:
Basketball_Jones wrote:JV/Ross/picks is probably the only reasonable deal Masai can offer. Maybe you swap out Ross and put in Derozan. Otherwise, that's kind of highway robbery unless SAC is 100 percent sold that JV is a future star.

I don't know man. If you make it JV and DD for Cousins, you are kind of betting the farm that TRoss turns into DD this summer, AND that Cousins isn't as much of a head case as he seems to be - AND will want to stay in Toronto, Canada.

I'm not going to comment on the pieces or trade, as we as Kings fans like DeMarcus, but the philosophy of betting the farm For a star that you mention

To get a young player of top 10 stature someone is giving value. Rarely is it that you can pick up a player of that quality by giving your extra parts. Just doesn't work that way. Especially when that player has three years remaining and the rest of the league would give quality offers

Whoever trades for superstars usually takes risk and makes sacrifices. If Westbrook comes onto the market I would understand that when contemplating him for my team. As a Kings fan I don't personally consider Cousins on the market though

tbh this is probably just a baseless speculation/rumor started by one of the fail gurus. but our fanbase gets excited too easily. oh and we never stop dreaming

sycammer · Post #179 » by **sycammer** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 6:42 am

all this is nonsensical to state the least.

Masai has repeatedly said that he will not make any short sighted moves, trading JV who is improving on year-to-year basis, would a bad move ; on the other hand, what happened to all those posters who were basically starting here last season that he will be the next Paul George?

PG is on a whole other level, his worth ethic is the major difference, I was never too high on Ross, in any case, he will have to be traded as its him or Bruno, which player has more potential & thats what we're discussing here, as there isn't space to continue to develop both of them here. Ross will be a 6th man at best, if he improves his shot, he will be like lou wiliams, a streaky shooter; as he simply lacks the desire to goto the basket more often.

1 more thing, it was either in this thread or the another, people are hesitant of resigning demar? like seriously, haven't we learnt our lesson from the bosh departure; if DD makes the last all-star team next season, as well as raptors winning, we should resign him. it would be stupid not to; demar's importance showed what we will miss - without him we would have problems drawing fouls & getting calls from refs.

Oakville_Raptor · Post #180 » by **Oakville_Raptor** » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:43 am

Boy are you guys delusional or what in thinking that the Raptors could get Cousins for that offer lol.