Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[Tdawson333]

Might be a steep price, but Demarcus Cousins would put the Bucks over the top and debatably make them dominant in 4-5 years. I would give up both our 1sts + a minor piece for him.

It's stuff like this that makes me come over to this forum....you guys crack me up

Haha dude had the nerve to add +minor piece at the end.





I've seen several forums do fantasy trades for cousins I'd like to know where this nonsense started. WE ARE NOT TRADING COUSINS period.


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Jabari ersan and two first for cousins and Stauskas. That's about the best the Bucks could do and I don't know if that could get it done

[JustinCredible]

No longer interested in Lawson. Two DUI's (The latest less than a month ago) and pleaded guilty to underage drinking & driving while when he was 20.

No thanks.

Honestly, I couldn't care less about either. More concerned about ankles. But I still believe he will be a bigger impact on wins than Knight the next three years, at a similar or less cost. Knight/Clips 1st would be the package I'd start with but I wouldn't overpay for Lawson.

Given the Larry situation I bet we tread carefully around guys with a history of drinking or drug related arrests. Knight is significantly younger and has his head on straight. Lawson is a better PG right now but I'd rather keep Knight over getting Lawson at this point.

[dc634]

I'm not sure why Denver would do the trade because given Lawson's contract, Knight is likely going to cost more.

Lawson is 4 years older, and isn't making the FO happy with his off court shenanigans, would be my guess? I'm sure the Nuggets are really looking for the best 1st round picks they can get though.

What off court shenanigans?

There has been a lot of talk recently about how the Nuggets are frustrated by the way Lawson has been conducting himself on top of being arrested for DUI. Don't know how true that is, but the fact that he has been in trade rumors for well over a month is certainly interesting. Also his ankles are scary. Fun player to watch though, I'd love to have him.

[crkone]

I'd rather not pay Knight or have Lawson. I don't know who I'd rather have who is going to be available either.

[GHOSTofSIKMA]

I think this is the most fair trade I've seen involving some of the rumored names we've been discussing so props for that. I wouldn't do it and I don't think the Bucks would either, but it is probably closer to realistic than in terms of pieces exchanged than a lot of things people are throwing out there. Just my opinion of course, I'm sure most won't share it but a lot of people are overvaluing our pieces.

Obviously it's never happening because Dragic would likely just walk at the end of the year and we would be mortgaging our future, but just in terms of pieces being exchanged I think it's close to fair.

everybody hates my trades, and calls me a troll and a dick and this and that.... I think I need to quit trying to make realistic trades that everybody hates so I will be more popular.

if you read my second proposal I think we can still acquire dragic and Gibson without parker. I still even think its realistic. thanks for understanding my post was a brainstorm and not calling me a troll **** because I posted it

[LUKE23]

Given the Larry situation I bet we tread carefully around guys with a history of drinking or drug related arrests. Knight is significantly younger and has his head on straight. Lawson is a better PG right now but I'd rather keep Knight over getting Lawson at this point.

There is a big difference between the two. First of all, underage drinking is conducted by 95% of people. I don't like the DUI's, but in the end, that doesn't touch what Larry is doing, which includes not playing hard, alienating teammates, and being entitled on top of a drug addiction.

Regarding Knight, there is no way I'm good with giving him a huge contract at this point. The dollar vs. win impact value is not there, and I believe there is no doubt at all Lawson has more impact on wins the next three seasons. And this is coming from someone who doesn't want to overpay to get him.

[yoshii8]

I'd give up Knight and Clippers first and whatever it would take to get Ty Lawson. A lineup of Lawson, Middleton, Giannis, Parker and Henson next year sounds amazing.

Unless Giannis learns to shoot I am seriously concerned with him at SF. Maybe we play Parker outside more as a SF on offense? Otherwise our spacing is going to be awful. Middleton is the only legit 3pt threat.

I think Giannis and Parker are both pretty much guaranteed to improve their shot. Also Lawson is a career 37% 3 pt shooter. I think he'd be the perfect vet to pair with our young core.

[JustinCredible]

Knight question marks: Vision.
Lawson question marks: Attitude/leadership, DUI history, ankles.

[ampd]

I think this is the most fair trade I've seen involving some of the rumored names we've been discussing so props for that. I wouldn't do it and I don't think the Bucks would either, but it is probably closer to realistic than in terms of pieces exchanged than a lot of things people are throwing out there. Just my opinion of course, I'm sure most won't share it but a lot of people are overvaluing our pieces.

It's realistic In that we are giving up young assets to rent a non superstar for 30 games when we're not contending. Wouldn't be the first time Hammond did it.

Jabari knight mayo and a 1st for 30 games of dragic and Taj gibson is fair value? We are getting destroyed in that deal.

I threw in a qualifier that I would never do that deal, it's not a realistic deal anyway. I think I'm just tired of people overvaluing some of the trash pieces we have like Ersan and Mayo, thinking they're going to help us make a good trade. Even the Ersan for Stauskas/Thompson deal seems too good to be true. Maybe I'm too much of a skeptic.

I agree ersan and mayo aren't worth much. neither are guys like stauskas and thompson thoug

Jabari knight and picks are real assets though.

[breakchains]

We give up a bunch of assets for a good but aging player who has 30 games left on his contract. He will be an unrestricted free agent and the Lakers are supposedly ready to offer him a monster deal in the offseason. Sounds like the Bucks we know, I'll give you that.

[drew881]

No longer interested in Lawson. Two DUI's (The latest less than a month ago) and pleaded guilty to underage drinking & driving while when he was 20.

No thanks.

But he can ride on the trolley!

[dc634]

Might be a steep price, but Demarcus Cousins would put the Bucks over the top and debatably make them dominant in 4-5 years. I would give up both our 1sts + a minor piece for him.

It's stuff like this that makes me come over to this forum....you guys crack me up

Haha dude had the nerve to add +minor piece at the end.





I've seen several forums do fantasy trades for cousins I'd like to know where this nonsense started. WE ARE NOT TRADING COUSINS period.


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Fanbases perceive that there is discord between player(Cousins) and FO(Kings) and hope that this makes said player available. It happens to every fanbase whenever something like this happens with a really good player. In this case, it is annoying for Kings fans but it is natural.

[ampd]

It's stuff like this that makes me come over to this forum....you guys crack me up

Haha dude had the nerve to add +minor piece at the end.





I've seen several forums do fantasy trades for cousins I'd like to know where this nonsense started. WE ARE NOT TRADING COUSINS period.


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Jabari ersan and two first for cousins and Stauskas. That's about the best the Bucks could do and I don't know if that could get it done

that would have a good shot at being the best offer they'd get. d will was traded for favors and 2 picks for example and when that happened he was easily as good as cousins.

Not saying the kings would accept this now or anything. but historically a top tier prospect and some picks is usually the price

[breakchains]

You could probably get Dragic for the 2015 first. That's a big asset to give up for a guy who you lose all control over as soon as the season ends. You ready to roll the dice that the guy will re-sign in Milwaukee when all the big market teams will be ready to offer him as much or more money?

That's how GMs lose jobs.

[WeekapaugGroove]

Brian shaw seem like an idiot so I take it with a grain of salt but Zach Lowe mentioned that him and Lawson have almost physically fought a few times. So there might be some truth to attitude issues with ty.

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[LUKE23]

Since salaries will be similar, to me it's Knight at ages 23-25 vs. Lawson at ages 27-29. My money is on Lawson being a better value. I just don't agree with inking Knight to a large deal to be our future PG. If another team views him as a significant asset now, I'd pack his bags.

[drew881]

You could probably get Dragic for the 2015 first. That's a big asset to give up for a guy who you lose all control over as soon as the season ends. You ready to roll the dice that the guy will re-sign in Milwaukee when all the big market teams will be ready to offer him as much or more money?

That's how GMs lose jobs.

I would hope the clear promise of a starting spot, no competition, and playing under Jason Kidd would be enough to convince him, but it is still risky. How much is Dragic going to get? If I have my choice of Dragic for 15 or Knight for 11, I take Knight, because I think he will have to defer to Giannis and Parker as stars in the future as they demand the ball more.

[breakchains]

Lawson can run with our young studs for several years. By then, I project Giannis and Jabari (and Middleton really) to be in their primes and we will be able to find Lawson's successor. The offense will run so much smoother with him than Knight, who is a talented but truly flawed point guard.

[JustinCredible]

Since salaries will be similar, to me it's Knight at ages 23-25 vs. Lawson at ages 27-29. My money is on Lawson being a better value. I just don't agree with inking Knight to a large deal to be our future PG. If another team views him as a significant asset now, I'd pack his bags.

Neither player is the ideal answer at PG long-term. If I had to pick one I'd pick Knight for reasons stated earlier. Knight is also an asset that could be moved in future seasons. Maybe we don't need a 'true' PG. They seem to be less and less available. The Russell Westbrook type PGs seem to be the thing now. Knight is fine and comes with very little risk. If we can move him for a decent asset I'd be down, but not for Lawson.

[ersan7]

Since salaries will be similar, to me it's Knight at ages 23-25 vs. Lawson at ages 27-29. My money is on Lawson being a better value. I just don't agree with inking Knight to a large deal to be our future PG. If another team views him as a significant asset now, I'd pack his bags.

Luke, switching gears a bit, but do you think an offer of JOB or a future 2nd rounder would be enough to get Luke Babbitt from the Pelicans? I am still pretty high on him and think he could be a real good player in this league