BREAKING - Magic Fire Vaughn and 3 Assistants, Borrego Named Interim Coach with Skiles Looming

[OrlMagic05]

not surprised.

Now that Karl is off the table, I don't see the point in hiring someone who might give us less chance at a good draft pick. I don't think there will be a huge number of coaching jobs this summer anyway.

I think going 2-2 (almost 3-1) means the Magic feel Borrego has earned the chance to see out the year.

This is a garbage move. So basically they're writing off another season. Great way to keep the fans involved. What's going change in the offseason? I'd bet any amount money that whoever they end up hiring is available right now. Such bull. This team needs an ownership change more than anything.

Thank god the Orlando City season is about to start so I can follow a team and organization that's committed to winning.

Sorry to break the news to you, but the season was lost 40 games ago lol. We might as well start sucking and try and land another top prospect.

[npiper17]

not surprised.

Now that Karl is off the table, I don't see the point in hiring someone who might give us less chance at a good draft pick. I don't think there will be a huge number of coaching jobs this summer anyway.

I think going 2-2 (almost 3-1) means the Magic feel Borrego has earned the chance to see out the year.

This is a garbage move. So basically they're writing off another season. Great way to keep the fans involved. What's going change in the offseason? I'd bet any amount money that whoever they end up hiring is available right now. Such bull. This team needs an ownership change more than anything.

Thank god the Orlando City season is about to start so I can follow a team and organization that's committed to winning.

Calm down. If there's one thing you can't accuse Magic ownership of it's not having a commitment to winning. We were well into the luxury tax during our contender years with Dwight. Otis was basically given a blank cheque, he just cashed it at the wrong bank.

The season has been over for a while. Unless you'd rather make an ill-fated push for the 8th seed which will result in us having the 10th-12th pick in a so-so draft.

The coaches that are available now will be available in the summer.

And on the Orlando City point; Magic fans will come flocking back when the team starts winning. Look at our attendances during the early Dwight years (Steve Francis, Darko, Arroyo etc). Then look at them from 2007 onwards (Stan, Shard, Hedo at an All-Star level).

[orlando1214]

I'm fine letting JB finish out the season. He's done decent job in his 4 games, especially when you consider he's only had one practice so far with the team. So lets give him a shot and see if he can really implement some changes. Also, Karl is gone, and all the remaining coaches will still be there in the summer, so its okay to wait. We might even get a shot at Thibs, which is the main reason the team should wait.

[Def Swami]

Wait it out for Thibs.

[MagicMadness]

No reason to rush things, especially now that George Karl is off the market.

The season was a wash the moment Channing Frye became our big summer splash, and the roster was filled out with bench guys that none of the playoff teams wanted. We were destined to win 25-29 games and that's where we're at.

[Howard Mass]

No surprise here.

It's best to wait and see who becomes available as not many teams will be looking for a head coach this summer.

[OrlandoNed]

No reason to rush things, especially now that George Karl is off the market.

The season was a wash the moment Channing Frye became our big summer splash, and the roster was filled out with bench guys that none of the playoff teams wanted. We were destined to win 25-29 games and that's where we're at.

I disagree. The season was a wash when we started it with Vaughn. I believe this team has the talent and pieces to make the playoffs, but lacks the leadership and game planning and preparation of a competent head coach.

[Reverse_Angle]

No need to commit to a less-than-desired name at this time. I expect the head coach market to be richer during the off-season. Totally fine with the move.

[Blue_and_Whte]

No reason to rush things, especially now that George Karl is off the market.

The season was a wash the moment Channing Frye became our big summer splash, and the roster was filled out with bench guys that none of the playoff teams wanted. We were destined to win 25-29 games and that's where we're at.

I disagree. The season was a wash when we started it with Vaughn. I believe this team has the talent and pieces to make the playoffs, but lacks the leadership and game planning and preparation of a competent head coach.

I disagree as well. Channing showed that he could be an integral part of a playoff team last year and I don't think he's regressed this much. The system we have in place wasn't using him correctly. Hopefully JB can fix that issue as the season progresses. Signing Frye was an indicator that we were making a PO push and I saw Ben Gordon as low risk signing on essentially an expiring contract.

[akhenaten]

No surprise here.

It's best to wait and see who becomes available as not many teams will be looking for a head coach this summer.

This logic makes no sense. If not many teams will be looking for a head coach, then why are you expecting coaches to become available?

[Def Swami]

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[OrlandO]

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Hennigan is a draft guy... he wants that one last high draft pick and nothing will get in his way at this point. As a bonus he'll get to see if Thibbs is available in the summer. If that's not an option, it will probably be some hard ass like skiles who will at least get us to the playoffs. Don't see us going after a college coach... henny can't risk another coaching blunder or he'll be out of a job in a couple years. The move will be closer to safe than risky imo.

[MagicStarwipe]

Somewhere, Aaron Gordon just punched a wall.

[Kev_bundles]

Somewhere, Aaron Gordon just punched a wall.

why??


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[MagicStarwipe]

Somewhere, Aaron Gordon just punched a wall.

why??


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Go look at his minutes played under Borrego.

[eyriq]

I'm honestly rooting for Borrego. Skiles and PJ as an assistants hired over the break.

Are you saying this happened or something you want to have happen?

I want this to happen.

[akhenaten]

I think today solidifies our team's national reputation as a dysfunctional mess. First you leak that you're going to fire your head coach. Then you wait several games without either firing your coach or commenting on the leak, letting the coach field all the questions. Then you finally fire the head coach, and instead of retaining his staff and naming the lead assistant as interim coach for the remainder of the season, you fire everyone except the lead assistant and announce that he is the coach "for now" and it's "day to day". He then coaches the next 4 games with no real assistants and espn analysts lobbying for the job on Twitter. National speculation is you will hire a new coach by all-star break, but you sit back in silence while the top candidate signs with another team (after lobbying for your job). And then, while the interim is waiting to be fired, you finally announce he will finish the season and actually pay for him to have a real assistant coach for the final 26 games. So after all this, even though we were universally criticized for having no discernible schemes on offense or defense, the lead assistant, who presumably had all the answers but kept them to himself, will finish the season with a new staff.

[npiper17]

No surprise here.

It's best to wait and see who becomes available as not many teams will be looking for a head coach this summer.

This logic makes no sense. If not many teams will be looking for a head coach, then why are you expecting coaches to become available?

Well for starters if we want to look at assistant coaches (especially those with top teams), they're unlikely to leave their position with 20 something games to go. I'm not a fan of Gentry but he's one who would fall into that group. Joe Prunty in Milwaukee (who I am a fan of) is another.

Secondly, there are available coaches right now who either (a) may not want to take the job mid-season or (b) there are other issues to iron out that would take longer than the all-star break. Skiles could fall into either or both of those brackets especially with the rumour that he wants some say over personnel as well as coaching.

On the point in your last post about being a national laughing stock: as long as we don't have an owner emailing fans individually and accusing them of being worthless alcoholics, I think we're surpassed in the laughing stock stakes.

[CraZyPraiZ]

I'm ok with this. Could care less what the media thinks about us. It wasn't too long ago that we had a damn good team in the playoffs every year and no one in the national media gave a **** about Orlando. Let's play hard, be competitive and develop the youngsters.

[Malik Starks]

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Hennigan is a draft guy... he wants that one last high draft pick and nothing will get in his way at this point. As a bonus he'll get to see if Thibbs is available in the summer. If that's not an option, it will probably be some hard ass like skiles who will at least get us to the playoffs. Don't see us going after a college coach... henny can't risk another coaching blunder or he'll be out of a job in a couple years. The move will be closer to safe than risky imo.

I'll say that I disagree insofar as I don't think it will be Hennigan's call alone to make. My feeling is the FO sees Hennigan as possibly a flat out genius from a personnel standpoint and for that reason he will be safe regardless.

However, I'm sure they feel they got burned by letting him have full reign over the HC hiring the first time (a youthful mistake considering his age), and for that reason I think Martins will have as much say or possibly even more than Hennigan this time around.

It's also a reason why I think some of the candidates that have a history of friction with the FO (like Skiles and Malone) will not be seriously considered due to Martins own ego and the poor relationship he had with Stan. Just my feeling.