Official Trade Thread: All-Star Weak End-ing?

Flying Colors · Post #1981 » by **Flying Colors** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:07 am

STEV13 wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:After we sign his bro who isn't even good enough for the D-League smh.

And allowed him to play for Slovenia despite the risks

good call, Dragic would always come into the season already tired

AtheJ415 · Post #1982 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:07 am

SF88 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
Does winning have anything to do with it? Because Dragic put up those 3rd team stats while winning far fewer games than when Bledsoe was healthy. And Dragic very clearly has a problem playing with either. When you value money and stats over wins, you are an SOB. Dude doesn't want to go to a contender. He wants to go to the Lakers and Knicks. He needs a lobotomy.

Don't believe everything you read, and Dragic was happy playing with Bledsoe last year and was eager to make the playoffs.

Exactky. Dragic said it himself that he hopes him and Bledsoe can be together for a long time.

And yet he has made it known trading IT doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means about his desire to play with Bledsoe for a long time.

Nando88 · Post #1983 » by **Nando88** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:08 am

Maybe Amare will change his mind since #1 is available lol

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sunsbum · Post #1984 » by **sunsbum** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:08 am

Bill Duffy has a pretty good relationship with the suns FO. I'm inclined to agree that this is leaked to drive up the price to the rockets. I'd let the dust settle before you start calling for heads.

I'm also fairly sure this hasn't blindsided our front office.

Revived · Post #1985 » by **Revived** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:08 am

bwgood77 wrote:
Kerrsed wrote:Dragic f**ked us and he f**ked us bad.

Where all the Dragic fans at who were talking s**t about Bledsoe not really wanting to be here and how Dragic did and kept saying how much he would like to re-sign here? Yeah........

Dragic and his agent really f**ked us. He could have kept his mouth shut about wanting to leave via trade, so we could at least keep his value somewhat high, but now that they opened up to anybody who will listen, teams know they have us backed into a corner and dont really have to give us jack s**t. He pretty much killed whatever leverage we had with him. HE F**KED US!

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvRc7pwnt0U[/youtube]

Houston was most likely our best trade partner (DMO or Jones +Capella/NOP 1st), but they are not on his "list" as he is holding a grudge against them for letting him go.

Did i mention how much he really f**ked us?

Most of the teams on his list are non-playoff contenders looking for a starting PG and really have nothing of value to offer us in return, but that really doesnt even matter now due to him f**king us and letting everyone know he has asked for a trade and told us that he will not re-sign with us.

It is funny to see the Dragic fanbase hold him up as a martyr and a messiah. Acting like none of this is his fault and he is not to blame at all. Get real. He bitched out and f**ked us.

And just to be clear, the Suns FO knew we were somewhat screwed. Todays meeting wasnt to try to keep him or convince him to stay, we were already long past that point. Instead todays meeting was for his agent to tell us how deep in our ass they were going to go and what teams Dragic wanted to be traded to. This meeting was called by Dragics agent, not the Suns. We knew what was up and were already looking at trading him, all the while telling the media we really wanted to keep him, thus keeping his value high. Dragic wanted control over where he went so he sent his agent to Phoenix to give our FO a swift kick in the nuts. At that point, they could care less about our FO and decided to leak this info out to the media to let all the teams on his list know that he is available and can be had for a lot cheaper than what the Suns FO was asking. Penis meet ass.

Nah, we screwed him too. He screwed us a bit. Not sure if you know as much as you think you do on all of this, and no need to rail on Dragic since we repeatedly drafted and signed more point guards.

Don't mean to be disrespectful but I think this is a bit excessive. I understand how he feels, as I did with other guys. His agent may have screwed us with the leaks, but at least they created a bidding war, and if we get crap offers, we can refuse them. We were going to get crap offers anyway.

If you think about it, if he is saying he would like to go to a number of teams, every one of those teams will feel a lot more likely they can re-sign him than they did before he stated that, thus they could give up more. If we bluff or even we are serious that we may keep him if a team is only willing to offer so much, they likely offer more if they REALLY want him.

Exactly again. Why should the he do the Suns a favor after the Suns rewarded Dragic for getting All NBA by signing and drafting every PG in sight?

letsgosuns · Post #1986 » by **letsgosuns** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:08 am

Woj speculated earlier that the Suns could still trade Thomas and convince Dragic to stay. I do not see how that is possible. Fans would boo Dragic. His agent publicly admitted he wants off the team. He wants to be given the reigns to a team like Steph Curry has. Well good look trying to be like Steph Curry. I do not see it. If Dragic gets 20 million a year, put him up there immediately with the other players that are the most overpaid in this league.

Blackification · Post #1987 » by **Blackification** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:08 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
SF88 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Don't believe everything you read, and Dragic was happy playing with Bledsoe last year and was eager to make the playoffs.

Exactky. Dragic said it himself that he hopes him and Bledsoe can be together for a long time.

And yet he has made it known trading IT doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means about his desire to play with Bledsoe for a long time.

He also said he was going to quickly re sign in the off season, then said every team has a chance, and now look 7 **** teams that can give him the most money.

saintEscaton · Post #1988 » by **saintEscaton** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:09 am

If Goran doesn't live up to the billing of being a max player , he's going to be swallowed whole and run out of town. Hopefully that investment sets the Lakers back a bit. As if the likes of KD, et al are lining up to sign with them, they can keep sipping their brand name koolaid and convince themselves that they are still the relevant FA destination to be.

Revived · Post #1989 » by **Revived** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:10 am

AtheJ415 wrote:
SF88 wrote:
bwgood77 wrote:
Don't believe everything you read, and Dragic was happy playing with Bledsoe last year and was eager to make the playoffs.

Exactky. Dragic said it himself that he hopes him and Bledsoe can be together for a long time.

And yet he has made it known trading IT doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means about his desire to play with Bledsoe for a long time.

It's because he grew tired of it.

If we never signed IT and it was Bledsoe-Dragic from the beginning just like last season, we would have been winning, having fun and none of the players would be complaining about anything.

Post #1990 » by **lilfishi22** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:11 am

I never imagined it would go to sht this badly. Goran has always been a quiet classy guy but this is just dirty and does no one any good

sunsbum · Post #1991 » by **sunsbum** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:12 am

Suddenly tragic should be the next title.

CKY- Suddenly Tragic: http://youtu.be/acjwimu-ldE

saintEscaton · Post #1992 » by **saintEscaton** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:12 am

Naww I don't completely buy into the IT scapegoat. Did he play a part in it? Sure. But the truth is the Dragic+Bledsoe backcourt arrangement was a precarious marriage that wasnt build to last

Nando88 · Post #1993 » by **Nando88** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:13 am

I hope this is resolved by tomorrow. My heart can't handle the wait til Thursday

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Flying Colors · Post #1994 » by **Flying Colors** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:14 am

In before the lock

Post #1995 » by **batsmasher** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:14 am

Blackification wrote:
batsmasher wrote:We did him dirty playing him off the ball and Bled as PG. Go figure, he does us dirty.

Maybe we'll get to see this 'youth movement' some time soon.

I don't see how thats doing him dirty. They asked him as a member of the team to change his role because he was most suited for it. Like Hornacek did with KJ. He gave a half assed effort all season and now is bouncing at the first opportunity so he can cash out.

Congrats Goran on making the All-NBA 3rd team. As a reward we're going to change your role and you're going to regress into the shadows. Sounds good? Good, thanks for taking one for the team.

AtheJ415 · Post #1996 » by **AtheJ415** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:15 am

SF88 wrote:
AtheJ415 wrote:
SF88 wrote:Exactky. Dragic said it himself that he hopes him and Bledsoe can be together for a long time.

And yet he has made it known trading IT doesn't solve the problem. It doesn't take a genius to figure out what that means about his desire to play with Bledsoe for a long time.

It's because he grew tired of it.

If we never signed IT and it was Bledsoe-Dragic from the beginning just like last season, we would have been winning, having fun and none of the players would be complaining about anything.

Statistically IT has done nothing but help us win. Our stats with all 3 help us win more than anything. I don't want to pay anyone a max who cares more about his touches than wins.

Also, if it was about having fun and winning, then the Lakers and Knicks provide none of that. Hell, neither do the heat. Unless fun is accumulating individual stats while losing.

RaisingArizona · Post #1997 » by **RaisingArizona** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 7:16 am