Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon

Revived · Post #761 » by **Revived** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:04 pm

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Dr Manute · Post #762 » by **Dr Manute** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:05 pm

tgtm_24 wrote:
SF88 wrote:I'm not saying he's better but for all the bad that Lance Blanks did, he never took it far enough to where our best player felt distrust in the FO and demanded out.

Not saying he's better than McD but something to keep in mind.

Dragic is not our best player though?

Suns don't even have a best player

gaspar · Post #763 » by **gaspar** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:05 pm

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Flying Colors · Post #764 » by **Flying Colors** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:05 pm

NapoleonII wrote:Well. we know one person who's happy with all of this.

two people actually

Synyster9 · Post #765 » by **Synyster9** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:07 pm

The only 3 teams I can see a Dragic trade happening with is Lakers, Houston, Sacromento

Lakers- From the info that NT gave, I would be all for sending Dragicx2, Green, Plumlee to get the protection of that pick off, top 5 pick in this draft is perfect for what we need on our team, Big Men.

Rockets- We would have to get DMo and the NOP pick to even consider it imo, but I could see this getting done, and maybe seeing Terry coming back to to even out the money

Kings- We would have to get a 1st round pick, either McLemore or Stauskas and take on maybe Thompson and Williams, but I can see a deal like that getting done, Would love to get Cousins but we all know that's not happening.

I just can't wait any longer, I haven't been more anxious about an NBA trade deadline than this year. I think that this Dragic thing is a blessing in disguise because I think it would have been a tough decision to make to decide whether or not to resign him at the money he was going to want and I think if Thomas only has 1 more PG to compete with, then maybe he'll be more inclined to distribute a bit more because he doesn't feel like he needs to prove himself as much. We'll see what the future holds.

Sunsdeuce · Post #766 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:07 pm

Yannis Koutroupis@YannisNBAabout 21 minutes ago
Between Bledsoe's long negotiations, Dragic's anger and the blatant shopping of Thomas, Suns' front office building bad reputation w/players

Two steps forward, 4 steps back. Since Sarver bought the team, no player has trusted the Suns FO.

tgtm_24 · Post #767 » by **tgtm_24** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:09 pm

SF88 wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/sethpo/status/568143228970635264[/tweet]

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I think we've already got enough opinions here without sharing some nobody's tweets.

Surely even you'd agree that Dragic wanting Frye on a 4yr deal is ridiculous.

Desert_Devil · Post #768 » by **Desert_Devil** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:09 pm

Given Dragic's statement that he hasn't been happy for two years now, his problem seems to be with no being The Man. In that light, I think the FO's mistake was in not dealing Dragic earlier. I suspect they really wanted to keep Dragic and wanted to make it work. That's about the only think I can really fault McD for - trying too hard to keep Dragic happy when it wasn't ever going to happen. Hopefully, the Suns can get a good return back for him and we can look forward to the young guys taking the next step.

Jdiddy701 · Post #769 » by **Jdiddy701** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:09 pm

Again, Suns have done everything right. I am sticking with the front office. They have done a good job.

Sunsdeuce · Post #770 » by **Sunsdeuce** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:11 pm

Tas Melas@TasMelas1 minute ago
The Suns, one of my favorite teams to watch, have been painful to watch in crunch time. Too much ISO ball, and not enough Dragic conducting.

And now Bledsoe will be in full command. Oh Good. Not looking forward to life after Dragic.

DaleyBlind · Post #771 » by **DaleyBlind** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:12 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Yannis Koutroupis@YannisNBAabout 21 minutes ago
Between Bledsoe's long negotiations, Dragic's anger and the blatant shopping of Thomas, Suns' front office building bad reputation w/players

Two steps forward, 4 steps back. Since Sarver bought the team, no player has trusted the Suns FO.

Think your going way overboard. 4 steps back??? Get a grip

MrMiyagi · Post #772 » by **MrMiyagi** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:12 pm

TIME TO UNLEASH ARCHIE!!!!!!!! LET'S GO!!!!!!!!

tgtm_24 · Post #773 » by **tgtm_24** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:12 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Yannis Koutroupis@YannisNBAabout 21 minutes ago
Between Bledsoe's long negotiations, Dragic's anger and the blatant shopping of Thomas, Suns' front office building bad reputation w/players

Two steps forward, 4 steps back. Since Sarver bought the team, no player has trusted the Suns FO.

The 2nd and 3rd points are directly related though. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.

May as well not re-sign any player ever again.

realsunsfan · Post #774 » by **realsunsfan** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:12 pm

Jdiddy701 wrote:Again, Suns have done everything right. I am sticking with the front office. They have done a good job.

this will be determined in how we come out of this mess by tomorrow 1 pm

NapoleonII · Post #775 » by **NapoleonII** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:13 pm

Front office is getting thrown under the bus a bit, but still, why do you sign IT in the off-season?

Also, good luck Dragic controlling the offense in Houston with James Harden.

DaleyBlind · Post #776 » by **DaleyBlind** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:14 pm

realsunsfan wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Again, Suns have done everything right. I am sticking with the front office. They have done a good job.

this be determined in how we come out of this mess by tomorrow 1 pm

yep, and or how dragic performs 2/3 years down the line into a big contract

Synyster9 · Post #777 » by **Synyster9** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:14 pm

Sunsdeuce wrote:Yannis Koutroupis@YannisNBAabout 21 minutes ago
Between Bledsoe's long negotiations, Dragic's anger and the blatant shopping of Thomas, Suns' front office building bad reputation w/players

Two steps forward, 4 steps back. Since Sarver bought the team, no player has trusted the Suns FO.

I don't think so, the Bledsoe issue was Bledsoe trying to get more money when it really wasn't warranted because nobody he was looking for another team to make an offer but nobody ever did.

Dragic's anger has been a mixture of a lot of things and I don't think that the Suns FO was the main reason in a lot of this, I think that Dragic is starting to get too big of a head thinking he can be Steph Curry. He's good, but he's not that good.

The Thomas signing was done in the asset collection direction that McD is going, it has caused a few problems but I don't think it was a bad signing, maybe a little unwarranted, but a backup plan in case either of our PG's got hurt or Bled gets an offer we didn't want to match.

letsgosuns · Post #778 » by **letsgosuns** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:14 pm

Bogyo wrote:
letsgosuns wrote:
gaspar wrote:I have no words...

What altercation is this referring to?

He said earlier the year that the MoBros were involved in a lockerroom alteraction. But it was never specified who was the other half, and why it happened.
Now it seems that it was Goran and IT, and MoBros stepped in on ITs side. IT is speculation on my part, could be Bled or Ennis, but Bled would defend himself just fine I think, and Ennis makes no sense as he is a rookie.
I'd still like to know what the alteraction was about... Who is not passing enough maybe?

Okay thanks for the info.

Jdiddy701 · Post #779 » by **Jdiddy701** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:14 pm

realsunsfan wrote:
Jdiddy701 wrote:Again, Suns have done everything right. I am sticking with the front office. They have done a good job.

this be determined in how we come out of this mess by tomorrow 1 pm

Well.. I do think they should have traded Goran a long time ago (earlier in the season). Been saying it since the beginning. We would have got 10x the trade we are going to get now. Only mistake

WeekapaugGroove · Post #780 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Wed Feb 18, 2015 10:15 pm

Desert_Devil wrote:Given Dragic's statement that he hasn't been happy for two years now, his problem seems to be with no being The Man. In that light, I think the FO's mistake was in not dealing Dragic earlier. I suspect they really wanted to keep Dragic and wanted to make it work. That's about the only think I can really fault McD for - trying too hard to keep Dragic happy when it wasn't ever going to happen. Hopefully, the Suns can get a good return back for him and we can look forward to the young guys taking the next step.

I totally agree. To me the biggest mistake McD made was not trading Goran this summer when his value was at its peak.

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