Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon

[Revived]

Everyone is unhappy. Everyone is dismayed. The entire **** organization is a MESS. This starts with Robert Sarver. He needs to be purged. So does the wonderboy Ryan McDonough. Get rid of his punk ass and get someone who knows something about treating players as players and not pixels and code in a **** video game. Get rid of Jeff Hornacek and his **** ass for letting some punk ass loser from Boston tell him how to coach a basketball team and relegating his star guard to nothing in order to fulfill his jerkoff fantasy of two "baller" guards. Get rid of Isaiah Thomas, for being a selfish cocksmoocher who's now driven two teams to madness. Get rid of Eric Bledsoe for being a primadonna, "mini-Bron" **** who took so goddamn long in the offseason and helped create this disaster in the first place. Get rid of Markieff Morris and his butt buddy boyfriend of a brother so they can fight at playgrounds and make lazy ass passes elsewhere. Get rid of PJ Tucker so he can drink and drive all he wants without driving into a **** cactus at 3am. Get rid of Gerald Green and his **** mentality so he can shoot with nobody under the basket to rebound his 2-15 shooting nights.

Start the team with Alex Len, TJ Warren, Tyler Ennis. A real center, a real scorer, and real point guard. **** everyone else.

This is one broken ass franchise that even the love child of Aaron Nelson and Jesus Christ himself can't heal.

[bwgood77]

I don't think any team in will give up anything in a trade for Goran if Zoran isn't included. He is HUGE for free agency leverage

Would they really want Zoran if Goran demands he play?

[RunDogGun]

Everyone is unhappy. Everyone is dismayed. The entire **** organization is a MESS. This starts with Robert Sarver. He needs to be purged. So does the wonderboy Ryan McDonough. Get rid of his punk ass and get someone who knows something about treating players as players and not pixels and code in a **** video game. Get rid of Jeff Hornacek and his **** ass for letting some punk ass loser from Boston tell him how to coach a basketball team and relegating his star guard to nothing in order to fulfill his jerkoff fantasy of two "baller" guards. Get rid of Isaiah Thomas, for being a selfish cocksmoocher who's now driven two teams to madness. Get rid of Eric Bledsoe for being a primadonna, "mini-Bron" **** who took so goddamn long in the offseason and helped create this disaster in the first place. Get rid of Markieff Morris and his butt buddy boyfriend of a brother so they can fight at playgrounds and make lazy ass passes elsewhere. Get rid of PJ Tucker so he can drink and drive all he wants without driving into a **** cactus at 3am. Get rid of Gerald Green and his **** mentality so he can shoot with nobody under the basket to rebound his 2-15 shooting nights.

Start the team with Alex Len, TJ Warren, Tyler Ennis. A real center, a real scorer, and real point guard. **** everyone else.

This is one broken ass franchise that even the love child of Aaron Nelson and Jesus Christ himself can't heal.

Well this might be too much?

[ImNotMcDiSwear]

Everyone is unhappy. Everyone is dismayed. The entire **** organization is a MESS. This starts with Robert Sarver. He needs to be purged. So does the wonderboy Ryan McDonough. Get rid of his punk ass and get someone who knows something about treating players as players and not pixels and code in a **** video game. Get rid of Jeff Hornacek and his **** ass for letting some punk ass loser from Boston tell him how to coach a basketball team and relegating his star guard to nothing in order to fulfill his jerkoff fantasy of two "baller" guards. Get rid of Isaiah Thomas, for being a selfish cocksmoocher who's now driven two teams to madness. Get rid of Eric Bledsoe for being a primadonna, "mini-Bron" **** who took so goddamn long in the offseason and helped create this disaster in the first place. Get rid of Markieff Morris and his butt buddy boyfriend of a brother so they can fight at playgrounds and make lazy ass passes elsewhere. Get rid of PJ Tucker so he can drink and drive all he wants without driving into a **** cactus at 3am. Get rid of Gerald Green and his **** mentality so he can shoot with nobody under the basket to rebound his 2-15 shooting nights.

Start the team with Alex Len, TJ Warren, Tyler Ennis. A real center, a real scorer, and real point guard. **** everyone else.

This is one broken ass franchise that even the love child of Aaron Nelson and Jesus Christ himself can't heal.

I thought you were quitting this sport?

[Phnxsports]

Just spit ballin but what about a Philly deal involving Dragic and Noel?

[Jdiddy701]

1. Dragic won't resign with Kings.
2. Kings aren't trading Cousins.

[Neal Walk]

This is one broken ass franchise that even the love child of Aaron Nelson and Jesus Christ himself can't heal.

Dramatic... but I still spit out my drink at this line.

[letsgosuns]

Just spit ballin but what about a Philly deal involving Dragic and Noel?

Sounds good to me.

[3rdside]

Do you know not to F$#k around when someone is pissed angry?

Seriously, other than nitpick on petty $hit, please move on and don't quote me unless you have a F$#KING point other than being F$#KING petty as $hit.

It's a relevant point WTF makes - if you don't correctly use phrases or terms, we can naturally assume you're IQ deficient; any points you make going forward are therefore to be listened to much less.

No one cares about spelling errors but wholly incorrect usage of terms is in another league altogether.

While I might gree with your point in general, I walk a different path when it comes to the metaphorical use of the word "literally". It's been used in this manner by some of the finest English language authors for more than 4 centuries. Purists have only been decrying it's use as an intensifier (or it's metaphorical use) for about a century now. Somebody woke up one morning and realized that it had a specific definition that didn't appear to allow for the way learned minds were using it. That person had a stick up his butt and proceeded to make a big deal out of it. Not unlike the idiot that convinced a generation of English speaking people to avoid the use of the word assume because some Professor once told them it made an ass out of "u" and "me".

Anyway, I would avoid saying "I literally yelled when I heard Goran wanted a trade" but I'd be comfortable saying "I'd literally jump over the moon if we were able to turn Dragic into J. Okafor". But on an internet forum, I'm not going to complain too much if I can figure out what the guy is saying without having to re-read his comment more than twice.

I'm British (okay so I'm actually an aussie with a british passport who lives in London even though I'm writing this from Australia) so tend to view the word for what it actually means perhaps more than an American would. It's very noticeable when people (particularly girls for some reason) use it out of place.

That being said, it is a message board and I wouldn't normally care if the word was used incorrectly, as it was in this case, but 1UPZ is peddling onesided BS that can't go unchecked. Picking on him for his misuse of the word was a way of discrediting someone who clearly needed to be discredited.

[BobbieL]

If the Rockets are offering DMo and the NO pick - I say for Goran that is good

ForThomas - don't care, move him

Really try to get Afflalo for the two guard - I am with Ray Ray on this one Affalo is a pro's pro. Not flashy but would be a smart solid fit and this team needs SMART

You add DMo and Affalo - your starting five is getting better long term.

Remove Thomas; remove Dragics

better locker room
better chemistry on court

[MGA]

Denver Nuggets have everyone on their roster on the trade block. I'd like to see the Suns acquire Aaron Afflalo to be the new SG. He's gonna be an UFA after the year but we can see how he does for 2-3 months before deciding on whether to offer him an extension or not.

Afflalo is a true SG (6'4-6'5ish height) and could compliment Bledsoe well imo.

Good idea, Suns could use more guards

Yes, we do actually. We are in desperate need of a true 2 guard. What we don't need are more point guards. Afflalo would be a fantastic addition to this team.

[bwgood77]

I'll repeat myself like a broken record. But the sky high expectations that will come that contract will be insurmountable, and he is definitely not your face of the franchise . Dragic isnt the type of player or personality to thrive in LA, he'll get eaten alive by media/fans if he cant replicate last year. This is just him getting dazed by the shiny lights and thinking that the grass is greener on the other side

I'm still not entirely convinced he will get THAT much. I agree he isn't the face of a franchise, at least not a playoff team and especially contender. Fans will like him, and when the cap goes up it won't seem as bad IF he makes that much, but I wouldn't want us to pay him that.

[bigsportsfan2]

@Burnsy987: Interesting point RT @xmascarr: i think there's more blame on Bledsoe (camp). His actions put Suns in a spot to get an Isaiah

Fault For This Mess Allocation:

1. RMcD's fault (signing Thomas, weird negotiation with Bledsoe, putting together an unbalanced roster) - 50%

2. Eric Bledsoe (no communication during negotiation possibly leading to the IT signing in the first place, hard balling suns for too much money, dominating the ball more this season thinking he's the man) - 20%

3. Orlando Magic (for upsetting Dragic's play by paying Frye way, way waaay too much (PER < 10; no wonder they hate him over there) - 10% (although we don't know how important Frye was to Dragic's success until Dragic or IT go somewhere else)

4. Hornacek (for letting the inmates run the asylum) - 10%

5. IT (complaining about minutes at the start of the season, ball hogging) - 5% (can't blame him for being himself, blame RMcD instead.

6. Dragic (for not being more diplomatic if the Suns have offered to trade IT and he doesn't care and sold them down anyway) - 5% (whatever he does can pretty much be forgiven cause he got shaaafted).

REALLY ?? Dragic only gets 5% " Fault For This Mess Allocation:" ? I get it that not everyone shares the same belief , or ideas here ,,,,,BUT REALLY ?? ONLY 5% ??

Dragics Agent ?,,, The Money ?,,,,,,,Whispers From other Teams Into Dragics Ear ??? NONE OF THAT STUFF EVEN PLAYED 1% In your " Fault List " ??

Dragic is the one that wasn't happy with his " touches ",,,,,,,Dragic stated he had to think of himself , AND HIS FAMILY (( HIS FAMILY ?? ) . That it was better for him , AND HIS FAMILY to move on ,,,Dragic and his agent are the ones that went public,,,Dragic &his agent are the ones that took this public ,,,,,,So Yeah 3rdside,,,,,,,,,,I'm thinking that Dragic has a little more " FAULT " in this situation , than just your allotted 5% . Noticed that you didn't mention the Ball Boy , Ticket taker , or hell , for that matter the Suns Fans that didn't WORSHIP Dragic enough . That would include ME . I probably should take about 8% of the blame in your Narcissistic Blame Game there.

[BobbieL]

Just spit ballin but what about a Philly deal involving Dragic and Noel?

Sounds good to me.

give them the Morri too

[thamadkant]

Everyone is unhappy. Everyone is dismayed. The entire **** organization is a MESS. This starts with Robert Sarver. He needs to be purged. So does the wonderboy Ryan McDonough. Get rid of his punk ass and get someone who knows something about treating players as players and not pixels and code in a **** video game. Get rid of Jeff Hornacek and his **** ass for letting some punk ass loser from Boston tell him how to coach a basketball team and relegating his star guard to nothing in order to fulfill his jerkoff fantasy of two "baller" guards. Get rid of Isaiah Thomas, for being a selfish cocksmoocher who's now driven two teams to madness. Get rid of Eric Bledsoe for being a primadonna, "mini-Bron" **** who took so goddamn long in the offseason and helped create this disaster in the first place. Get rid of Markieff Morris and his butt buddy boyfriend of a brother so they can fight at playgrounds and make lazy ass passes elsewhere. Get rid of PJ Tucker so he can drink and drive all he wants without driving into a **** cactus at 3am. Get rid of Gerald Green and his **** mentality so he can shoot with nobody under the basket to rebound his 2-15 shooting nights.

Start the team with Alex Len, TJ Warren, Tyler Ennis. A real center, a real scorer, and real point guard. **** everyone else.

This is one broken ass franchise that even the love child of Aaron Nelson and Jesus Christ himself can't heal.

BH may actually go postal in the Suns stadium any day now... damn.

[Qwigglez]

1. Dragic won't resign with Kings.
2. Kings aren't trading Cousins.

Dragic most likely wouldn't resign with the Kings if they keep Cousins. Don't think their personalities mesh well. But if the Kings were to trade us Cousins for Dragic/Len and a couple of 1st, I bet he would resign there. Dragic/Gay/Len is a great start for the Kings, but they would still need a lot of work to be done. McLemore helps, but they would still need a PF.

[Jdiddy701]

Haven't been a big Affalo guy but starting to feel he'll be a great fit in Phoenix. If Suns can get him, I'll be thrilled.

[saintEscaton]

If the Nuggets deal Lawson. Could we do a straight up Dragic for Afflalo trade?

[bwgood77]

Again, though...when Goran says "it's been 2 years" referring to issues, what is he referring to?

Maybe that it's been 2 years since promises were made... we'll get better, we'll bring in a star to help you out etc. But we brought in a potential star that plays the same position as Goran.


He's killing us right now. It's a bad break-up and I can't look away.

I think he just meant he has already been here two years, and it's gotten worse this year for him with the reduced role, bringing in more point guards, letting Frye go who helped the team and especially him click with the pick n roll and spending the same money Frye got on IT and Tolliver. I wouldn't be happy if I were him either. I've been hoping they would trade IT for awhile in hopes it would improve, but the writing was on the wall, and the moves made last summer wrecked our team chemistry. We need a major shakeup.

[bigsportsfan2]

Show me 1, as ONE, example of Dragic showing any non-a$$hole statement or action towards the Suns, in the last 48 hours.

You can go follow him where ever he goes, its a free world.

But based on all the information coming out, there has been NO OUNCE of evidence Dragic has been fair to the Suns... this is business afterall and he has been unprofessional

AMEN !!!!