Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

[Prez]

Will Tyus Jones even be available at our pick? I have a feeling his stock is gonna go up significantly as the season goes on, into the tournament.

[Treebeard]

Will the Sanders buy out be official in time to give us a free roster spot before the deadline?

GP raised the idea that the Bucks already have Larry's deal signed, but withold filing it till after the deadline, unless they do need the roster spot. It's a logical idea to me.

[Garbs_7]

Will the Sanders buy out be official in time to give us a free roster spot before the deadline?

GP raised the idea that the Bucks already have Larry's deal signed, but withold filing it till after the deadline, unless they do need the roster spot. It's a logical idea to me.

Yeah ok so they hold off on it and see if they need the roster spot, otherwise do it after the deadline and sign Jorge to a season long deal... That would be a little depressing haha

[TroyD92]

For the people who think Middleton is going to get and want to pay him close to 10mil a year are delusional. Please stop we can't afford another failed contract signing.

Paying Knight would be the failure. Middleton without any improvement is a bargain at 10M.

[LedZepp007]

Awkward timing re: the Bucks open practice tomorrow from 11:30 - 1:30 eh?

This is a great point. Makes me wonder if the Bucks anticipate no moves.

[Frank Nova]

If you feel like creepily reading all of his posts, here's a good place to start...

http://forums.realgm.com/boards/search.php?author_id=112409&sr=posts

Can I just read them normally or do I have to be creepy about it?

Creepy is best. No lights. Down to your briefs. Light a candle.

I got a bottle of pink moscato and a bubble bath already set up.

[Treebeard]

Awkward timing re: the Bucks open practice tomorrow from 11:30 - 1:30 eh?

This is a great point. Makes me wonder if the Bucks anticipate no moves.

Or, it serves as a place holder for the media to show up anway for a presser

I think it's more likely the "no moves" theory....

[MadBlueEdwards]

Can I just read them normally or do I have to be creepy about it?

Creepy is best. No lights. Down to your briefs. Light a candle.

I got a bottle of pink moscato and a bubble bath already set up.

Perfect

[paulpressey25]

Awkward timing re: the Bucks open practice tomorrow from 11:30 - 1:30 eh?

This is a great point. Makes me wonder if the Bucks anticipate no moves.

They scheduled this a week ago. I'm guessing the guy who scheduled it didn't consult with the trade deadline guys in the front office. Or maybe they did and figured if they made a deal, the PR work could be downtown right after the workout.

I do see they just finished practice tonight. Kidd is back from Cabo and ready to make some decisions on deals I'm assuming.

[dc634]

Awkward timing re: the Bucks open practice tomorrow from 11:30 - 1:30 eh?

This is a great point. Makes me wonder if the Bucks anticipate no moves.

I mean this practice has likely been planned for awhile and has been public knowledge for days. No way does the FO base a practice time around anticipating no trades. It certainly will be interesting though. If a player isn't there around 11:30...

[LedZepp007]

According to the Twitterverse, we have been present in many, if not most, of the trade rumors. I think Hammond and Kidd are hard at work behind the scenes for once. I think LED may want to see some moves.

[JustinCredible]

This is such a boring deadline. Seriously no trades by any teams yet.

[Bucks2585]

Still don't see the Knight hate.

For example, lets say that he was payed $12 Million a year.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/point-guard/

He'd be the 10th highest paid PG in the NBA. Which honestly, matches his talent level, especially since by all accounts, he could be a starting SG in the NBA. Is him being the 10th highest paid PG that unreasonable? Considering younger guys could pass him up? Hell, the only reason guys like say Conley, Curry, etc. are lower than him is because they signed their deals before the cap was rising.

I mean, Im fine with Knight making $12 Million a year. Because worst case, he could simply slide over to SG. He's shown he can do it. He's shown he can play off ball. And he can sometimes play PG, even play PG on a team that is as successful as ours and contribute to a winning record. As a player, $12 Million is fine for him.

Hell, all the people that want Giannis to be a point forward. That will happen naturally if Giannis proves that he deserves that role. Players defer to the best player on the team.

We all hated on Monta Ellis in the exact same way. Yet, with a good team and good coach, he has a clear role that helps his team compete in a dominate Western Conference. Kidd knows how to use Knight, whether its as a SG or as a PG. In terms of pay, $12 Million a year will not be that much, especially if we sign him right before the huge cap jump.

Honestly, I feel no one would have a problem if Knight was 6-4 and people considered him a SG. But since he starts at PG, people hate him. Its not Knights fault that we don't have a better player at PG than him or even close to him. If we get a PG that can actually be an at least average starter at PG, then Knight will play SG, and that is fine with me at least.

Honestly, whats everyones problem if Knight is the SG making $12 Million a year? The team is looking into PGs. Were clearly looking at PGs, otherwise why be interested in Reggie Jackson? Honestly, I think were trying to run a Suns type system with Knight as the Goran Dragic SG role, and we can still resign Middleton to be the Gerald Green of last year. Those guys all got 28+ minutes last year. We can resign both to play in those roles.

I just don't see the problem with Knight when by all accounts, we've been looking at PGs at this trade deadline and the comments from Hammond. We want to resign Knight because he's a good player. He will only remain the PG if we don't find a PG that can start and be better than him. Up till this pint, we haven't. So its up to you. Do you think Hammond can find a true PG to pair with Knight? If so, then why trade Knight vs pay him to be the starting SG? I can see if some of you think that Jabari/Giannis should be the starting SF if one of them start at PF, but if thats the case, then if Jabari and Giannis show they deserve the spot over Middleton, they'll get it and Middleton will be a contender for 6th Man of the year every year then. If they don't, theres nothing wrong with Jabari or Giannis coming off the bench and still getting that 25-30 minutes per game. They'll still develop if they're playing that much.

Fact is, Knight is an extremely talented player. I don't see why everyone wants to get rid of him simply because they can't pigeon-hole him as a PG.

[paulpressey25]

I mean this practice has likely been planned for awhile and has been public knowledge for days. No way does the FO base a practice time around anticipating no trades. It certainly will be interesting though. If a player isn't there around 11:30...

I guess someone needs to do an advanced stats database, but my recollection is that most of these trades fall in line from 9am to noon. My guess is that if we are trading Ersan, that news is well out there before an 11:30 start time.

[MadBlueEdwards]

Will Tyus Jones even be available at our pick? I have a feeling his stock is gonna go up significantly as the season goes on, into the tournament.

I think his size is going to keep his stock lower, especially considering there are a number of pretty big guards projected to go in the first round.

[LedZepp007]

We are want to move knight because we have more talented players (read: jabari and Giannis) to whom knight doesn't pass

[LUKE23]

Still don't see the Knight hate.

For example, lets say that he was payed $12 Million a year.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/point-guard/

He'd be the 10th highest paid PG in the NBA. Which honestly, matches his talent level, especially since by all accounts, he could be a starting SG in the NBA. Is him being the 10th highest paid PG that unreasonable? Considering younger guys could pass him up? Hell, the only reason guys like say Conley, Curry, etc. are lower than him is because they signed their deals before the cap was rising.

I mean, Im fine with Knight making $12 Million a year. Because worst case, he could simply slide over to SG. He's shown he can do it. He's shown he can play off ball. And he can sometimes play PG, even play PG on a team that is as successful as ours and contribute to a winning record. As a player, $12 Million is fine for him.

Hell, all the people that want Giannis to be a point forward. That will happen naturally if Giannis proves that he deserves that role. Players defer to the best player on the team.

We all hated on Monta Ellis in the exact same way. Yet, with a good team and good coach, he has a clear role that helps his team compete in a dominate Western Conference. Kidd knows how to use Knight, whether its as a SG or as a PG. In terms of pay, $12 Million a year will not be that much, especially if we sign him right before the huge cap jump.

Honestly, I feel no one would have a problem if Knight was 6-4 and people considered him a SG. But since he starts at PG, people hate him. Its not Knights fault that we don't have a better player at PG than him or even close to him. If we get a PG that can actually be an at least average starter at PG, then Knight will play SG, and that is fine with me at least.

Honestly, whats everyones problem if Knight is the SG making $12 Million a year? The team is looking into PGs. Were clearly looking at PGs, otherwise why be interested in Reggie Jackson? Honestly, I think were trying to run a Suns type system with Knight as the Goran Dragic SG role, and we can still resign Middleton to be the Gerald Green of last year. Those guys all got 28+ minutes last year. We can resign both to play in those roles.

I just don't see the problem with Knight when by all accounts, we've been looking at PGs at this trade deadline and the comments from Hammond. We want to resign Knight because he's a good player. He will only remain the PG if we don't find a PG that can start and be better than him. Up till this pint, we haven't. So its up to you. Do you think Hammond can find a true PG to pair with Knight? If so, then why trade Knight vs pay him to be the starting SG? I can see if some of you think that Jabari/Giannis should be the starting SF if one of them start at PF, but if thats the case, then if Jabari and Giannis show they deserve the spot over Middleton, they'll get it and Middleton will be a contender for 6th Man of the year every year then. If they don't, theres nothing wrong with Jabari or Giannis coming off the bench and still getting that 25-30 minutes per game. They'll still develop if they're playing that much.

Fact is, Knight is an extremely talented player. I don't see why everyone wants to get rid of him simply because they can't pigeon-hole him as a PG.

The fact that he wouldn't even be the best SG on the roster either is one reason.

[LedZepp007]

I guess we will see if some players don't show up for the practice.

[stellation]

Deadline avatar for any Hambone fans.

[dc634]

Awkward timing re: the Bucks open practice tomorrow from 11:30 - 1:30 eh?

This is a great point. Makes me wonder if the Bucks anticipate no moves.

They scheduled this a week ago. I'm guessing the guy who scheduled it didn't consult with the trade deadline guys in the front office. Or maybe they did and figured if they made a deal, the PR work could be downtown right after the workout.

I do see they just finished practice tonight. Kidd is back from Cabo and ready to make some decisions on deals I'm assuming.

That is probably true. I feel that there are always a few that trickle in at the end before the deadline and some even come out right after the deadline hits. Those aren't usually significant though.

Edit: I definitely quoted the wrong post...