Trade Targets (postcript on yesterday-other teams)

Post #6381 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:11 am

stellation wrote:Deadline avatar for any Hambone fans.

That's awesome....too bad neither guy in the montage is a GM anymore. :wink:

stellation · Post #6382 » by **stellation** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:14 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
stellation wrote:Deadline avatar for any Hambone fans.

That's awesome....too bad neither guy in the montage is a GM anymore.

I still had to go with Danny, I couldn't help myself! Good times, good times.

Nowak008 · Post #6383 » by **Nowak008** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:16 am

Stelly that avatar is awesome... could you do one with out ferry... and slower picture change?

stellation · Post #6384 » by **stellation** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:20 am

Nowak008 wrote:Stelly that avatar is awesome... could you do one with out ferry... and slower picture change?

But of course, if you want it slower let me know.

JustinCredible · Post #6385 » by **JustinCredible** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:20 am

What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Post #6386 » by **paulpressey25** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:21 am

JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

xTitan · Post #6387 » by **xTitan** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:26 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

To much

Bernman · Post #6388 » by **Bernman** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:26 am

It would be much more sensible to have a plan in place that doesn't include Tyus Jones, and then be pleasantly surprised if he falls in to our laps. Because it probably won't happen. Bird in the hand is worth more than two in the bush. Pull the trigger on Lawson/Arthur for some 2-player combo of Knight/Ilyasova/Henson, maybe with a 2nd or Clips' 1st thrown in if on the table. And maybe we could incorporate the Kings into this too because we know they've loved Ersan and Knight at different times in the past year. We could possibly get one or both of the Stauskas/Thompson package coming back our way.

Dcebucks11 · Post #6389 » by **Dcebucks11** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:27 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

yup no interest, save those assets for when jabari and giannis are balling for real

JustinCredible · Post #6390 » by **JustinCredible** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:27 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?
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Henson and the Clip's first.

That's it? I'd do that. We would need another big then though.

Bernman · Post #6391 » by **Bernman** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:27 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

Eff yeah you do that deal. One of those three pieces are core players, and it's the one coming back in our direction.

El Duderino · Post #6392 » by **El Duderino** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:28 am

JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

It doesn't really matter IMO because i don't see the Bucks trading for him.

Unless the Bucks seriously intend to trade Knight and there are no signs of that at all, what point would there be for the team to even look into acquiring Lawson?

I get that Kidd plays Knight at SG here and there in games with Bayless at PG, but i don't see the team looking to acquire a full time PG and playing Knight at SG 30 plus minutes per game.

Prince12 · Post #6393 » by **Prince12** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:29 am

JustinCredible wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?
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Henson and the Clip's first.

That's it? I'd do that. We would need another big then though.

That's why we have frozen K-Marts body. We intend to bring him back from the dead for the playoff run.

Bernman · Post #6394 » by **Bernman** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:30 am

xTitan wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

To much

Not enough. I'd throw them another player just out of principle/fairness.

I'm kind of serious. If you try to screw teams over as much as possible they're not going to want to deal with you in the future, so you have to think about it somewhat from their perspective. You usually have to do that just to get a deal done. I wouldn't expect Henson/Clips' 1st to.

MiltownHawkeye · Post #6395 » by **MiltownHawkeye** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:30 am

Bucks2585 wrote:Still don't see the Knight hate.

For example, lets say that he was payed $12 Million a year.

http://www.spotrac.com/nba/rankings/point-guard/

He'd be the 10th highest paid PG in the NBA. Which honestly, matches his talent level, especially since by all accounts, he could be a starting SG in the NBA. Is him being the 10th highest paid PG that unreasonable? Considering younger guys could pass him up? Hell, the only reason guys like say Conley, Curry, etc. are lower than him is because they signed their deals before the cap was rising.

I mean, Im fine with Knight making $12 Million a year. Because worst case, he could simply slide over to SG. He's shown he can do it. He's shown he can play off ball. And he can sometimes play PG, even play PG on a team that is as successful as ours and contribute to a winning record. As a player, $12 Million is fine for him.

Hell, all the people that want Giannis to be a point forward. That will happen naturally if Giannis proves that he deserves that role. Players defer to the best player on the team.

We all hated on Monta Ellis in the exact same way. Yet, with a good team and good coach, he has a clear role that helps his team compete in a dominate Western Conference. Kidd knows how to use Knight, whether its as a SG or as a PG. In terms of pay, $12 Million a year will not be that much, especially if we sign him right before the huge cap jump.

Honestly, I feel no one would have a problem if Knight was 6-4 and people considered him a SG. But since he starts at PG, people hate him. Its not Knights fault that we don't have a better player at PG than him or even close to him. If we get a PG that can actually be an at least average starter at PG, then Knight will play SG, and that is fine with me at least.

Honestly, whats everyones problem if Knight is the SG making $12 Million a year? The team is looking into PGs. Were clearly looking at PGs, otherwise why be interested in Reggie Jackson? Honestly, I think were trying to run a Suns type system with Knight as the Goran Dragic SG role, and we can still resign Middleton to be the Gerald Green of last year. Those guys all got 28+ minutes last year. We can resign both to play in those roles.

I just don't see the problem with Knight when by all accounts, we've been looking at PGs at this trade deadline and the comments from Hammond. We want to resign Knight because he's a good player. He will only remain the PG if we don't find a PG that can start and be better than him. Up till this pint, we haven't. So its up to you. Do you think Hammond can find a true PG to pair with Knight? If so, then why trade Knight vs pay him to be the starting SG? I can see if some of you think that Jabari/Giannis should be the starting SF if one of them start at PF, but if thats the case, then if Jabari and Giannis show they deserve the spot over Middleton, they'll get it and Middleton will be a contender for 6th Man of the year every year then. If they don't, theres nothing wrong with Jabari or Giannis coming off the bench and still getting that 25-30 minutes per game. They'll still develop if they're playing that much.

Fact is, Knight is an extremely talented player. I don't see why everyone wants to get rid of him simply because they can't pigeon-hole him as a PG.

If you need to decrease a player's role and usage to justify their contract, that's not usually a good sign.

The fact you can't "pigeon-hole him as a PG" is a problem because that's the only position he has the size to defend.

Nowak008 · Post #6396 » by **Nowak008** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:33 am

stellation wrote:
Nowak008 wrote:Stelly that avatar is awesome... could you do one with out ferry... and slower picture change?

But of course, if you want it slower let me know.

You are a

JustinCredible · Post #6397 » by **JustinCredible** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:33 am

The Nugs would have to be extremely desperate to let Lawson go for Henson and Clips 1st. I'd be shocked if that got it done.

Garbs_7 · Post #6398 » by **Garbs_7** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:36 am

paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

If we give up Henson we are going to be very thin at C and will need someone coming back. I really like Darrell Arthur in that role and he is a solid, good defensive reserve big on a cheap expiring deal.

Bucks Get:

Lawson
Arthur

Nuggets Get:

Henson
Clips 1st
(Add JOB or a 2nd if needed)

Zaza / Arthur / Kenyon
Giannis / Ersan / JOB
Middleton / Dudley / Giannis
Knight / Mayo / Bayless
Lawson/ Bayless / Jorge

Can run a lot of different lineups with that and when Knight walks in the off-season we are still well placed.

mlloyd10 · Post #6399 » by **mlloyd10** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:38 am

xTitan wrote:
paulpressey25 wrote:
JustinCredible wrote:What do you guys think it would take to get Lawson?

Henson and the Clip's first.

To much

stellation · Post #6400 » by **stellation** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:40 am

Nowak008 wrote:
stellation wrote:
Nowak008 wrote:Stelly that avatar is awesome... could you do one with out ferry... and slower picture change?

But of course, if you want it slower let me know.

You are a

Actually, you need to add some of Supreme's genius in there, too, and move it over to imgur so it accepts the hosting site. This one should work if the other doesn't.