Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon

King4Day · Post #1661 » by **King4Day** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:01 pm

bigfoot wrote:
gaspar wrote:Banker Bob is just posturing. He wants the Lakers 1st unprotected.

Sarver has never shown he cared about draft picks.

From what I recall, he didn't want to deal Nash to LA but gave in. McDonough will convince Sarver if that's what's necessary.

bigfoot · Post #1662 » by **bigfoot** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:02 pm

Pure_Basketball wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
Firrhos wrote:Long time lurker, posted a few times ..

[tweet]https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard/status/568433500673548288[/tweet]

Deng and two future firsts ... I'd do it. So long as the firsts were four and six years out.

It's not Deng and two future firsts lol, it's just Two future 1sts.

So Miami is under the cap and can take on Dragic without sending us someone. Probably not. Tell us who would match his salary.

ImNotMcDiSwear · Post #1663 » by **ImNotMcDiSwear** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:03 pm

NotTraxxe wrote:As of now I would say IT is the one to be moved. And Zoran may be shipped off to Siberia to play for the Siberian Gulag International team, lol.

Miami may win if they budge a wee bit. But who knows.

Miami isn't offering Deng with that. Scrub package. And two middle of the pack firsts. We are trying to include a better package to covince them to part with Whiteside but they don't want nothing to do with chuckleheads.

Hey guy. Whiteside CAN'T be traded. :-?

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #1664 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:03 pm

whiteside can not be dealt. he was signed less than 3 months ago

not to mention he is untouchable

Post #1665 » by **Qwigglez** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:03 pm

Moving apartments today guys. I'll be around lurking though, lol.

Saberestar · Post #1666 » by **Saberestar** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:04 pm

Deng + 2 picks = Goran Dragic
2 picks = Isaiah Thomas
1 pick = Gerald Green

In Len We Trust · Post #1667 » by **In Len We Trust** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:04 pm

Just rip the **** bandaid off already. I can't take another 4 hours of this. I feel like a trade will end up happening less than 60 seconds before the deadline.

WeekapaugGroove · Post #1668 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:05 pm

SSOL wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
SSOL wrote:Glad Sarver isn't budging.
why? Is spite a good reason to not take 2 1st rounders? If dragic is on this team come Friday I might need to take a little break from the suns for a while.

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Why? Because a top 5 point guard (which he is when he is allowed to play with the ball), is worth more than the garbage that is being offered. There is a reason Goran will get the max this offseason and it is because multiple teams think he is that good. Do not cash out for cents on the dollar. The franchise is better served trying to rectify the problem and making the next two months a recruiting pitch.

I respect that you are clinging to the idea that Goran could come back but it ain't happening dude. That ship has sailed I recommend you start the grieving process.

Your attempt to make Goran a martyr is a little comical. You act like he did the suns some huge favor coming back in free agency... dude we paid him more money than anyone else would. Dragic should be thankful the suns believed in him since teams weren't lining up to make him their starting point. And why is everyone forgetting the last time Goran had total run of the point guard spot the suns won 25 **** games.

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MathiasPW · Post #1669 » by **MathiasPW** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:05 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
I would laugh so hard if we packaged Goran and Thomas to the same team. I wouldn't even care what we got back, just to be like "Goran, you said you wanted to play for the Knicks....you also said we should trade IT....you never said we shouldn't ALSO trade him to the Knicks....just trying to be accommodating!"

Unproductive, and you lose all credibility with players for the rest of your life, but I'd make a statue of our entire FO if they did that.

Pure_Basketball · Post #1670 » by **Pure_Basketball** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:05 pm

In Len We Trust wrote:How about..
Dragic bros and Tucker to Miami
2 Miami picks and Deng to Orlando
Frye to Miami
Tobias Harris to PHX

Miami aren't parting with Deng for Tucker and Frye, that's just not happening. You want 2 1sts and Tobias Harris for a decent role player and a guy who is leaving in the offseason? Come on man.

NotTraxxe · Post #1671 » by **NotTraxxe** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:05 pm

Also Boston pulled out as I stated before. Kings, Bulls, Houston, and Indy have been told no resign at this point. Sarver is pissed at the agent. PISSSSSSSSED.

From a fan perspective. Sarver is not a liked owner. The owners and the players hate him. He's our biggest hurdle. He makes promises and steps in where he should not making Ryan's job more difficult. He promised Goran more playing time as the primary BH. Then he promised IT a 3 guard rotation with the promise of Bledsoe not likely coming back. Contradictory crap.

From a fan perspective though what Goran is doing is bad. He's crapping on the future of this team by the way he positioned himself. He's letting his agent do it. But he consents to what his agent does and does not do. As fans we are tied to the team. So when a player damages a team (and he is damaging us to a large degree) you lose respect and desire for that player.

Say what you want about Bledsoe but he didn't publically hurt us. He did what was in his best interest for him and his family while not **** all over our Franchise.

And I am not Paul Coro. I'm much prettier than him

Post #1672 » by **DefenseWins** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:06 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/JoeGoodmanJr ... 5056728064

Cant embed this now but yeah this might be miami's thinking too

Pure_Basketball · Post #1673 » by **Pure_Basketball** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:06 pm

Saberestar wrote:Deng + 2 picks = Goran Dragic
2 picks = Isaiah Thomas
1 pick = Gerald Green

So I guess Pheonix are content with losing Dragic for nothing at the end of the year because that deal isn't happening.

saintEscaton · Post #1674 » by **saintEscaton** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:07 pm

I have a feeling McD has something else up under his sleeve. IDont have insider sources but.......

Puff · Post #1675 » by **Puff** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:08 pm

SSOL wrote:Glad Sarver isn't budging.

I have not agreed with much Sarver has done, but I am on his side on this one.

Dragic said he will only go to three teams. Bob said that is just fine but it is going to cost you $27 Million and for the next 8 months you can go back to Slovenia and play with the national team whom you care about more than the Phoenix Suns.

If we do not work out a trade that works for us I sincerely hope Sarver just tells him to stay home, while making no attempt to sign him or do a sign and trade with him to his preferred destinations. This nonsense of players determining where they end up is getting way out of hand.

Trashing an organization in the press as badly as Dragic has in the past 24 hours is really uncalled for and classless. The Phoenix Suns went out of their way to get him to the NBA, as a 2nd round pick, and made him a millionaire, WTF. I have lost all respect for this guy and will be rooting against any team he ends up with. It surely will not be hard to do if he end up in LA.

If he does stay and we decide to play him I may just boycott watching any Suns games until he is gone and I love watching basketball especially the Phoenix Suns no matter who is playing for him.

Post #1676 » by **DefenseWins** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:08 pm

Sometimes I wonder if Broussard ever got s report right. No one credible ever retweets him, especially since he is the first to break the news lmao

In Len We Trust · Post #1677 » by **In Len We Trust** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:09 pm

Miami's starting 5 would be very impressive if they get Dragic without dealing Deng

Dragic
Wade
Deng
Bosh
GOATside

malgus · Post #1678 » by **malgus** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:10 pm

shouldn't the suns like worry about other business than dragic? Trade Thomas because he's not good for chemistry and a ballhog - regardless of the Dragic situation.

Trade Green because he's not in the future plans.

Trade Plumlee because he has hands of stone and some value.

Then worry about Dragic instead of letting the Dragic situation overwhelm everything else. If it comes down to it, just play out the season with Bledsoe and Dragic and then if he walks, he walks. We have ennis. Point guards are a dime a dozen. Hell we could get a guy like Mo Williams easy at any time. Hell resign Bassy as a backup.

Pure_Basketball · Post #1679 » by **Pure_Basketball** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:10 pm

bigfoot wrote:
Pure_Basketball wrote:
bigfoot wrote:
Deng and two future firsts ... I'd do it. So long as the firsts were four and six years out.

It's not Deng and two future firsts lol, it's just Two future 1sts.

So Miami is under the cap and can take on Dragic without sending us someone. Probably not. Tell us who would match his salary.

No it would be two scrubs or two role players that make up the 7m in salary such as
Chalmers + Birdman, or Chalmers + Granger, Birdman + Haslem, Chalmeds + Haslem etc. how much value do you expect dude come on.

starbosa10 · Post #1680 » by **starbosa10** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 4:10 pm

NotTraxxe wrote:Also Boston pulled out as I stated before. Kings, Bulls, Houston, and Indy have been told no resign at this point. Sarver is pissed at the agent. PISSSSSSSSED.

From a fan perspective. Sarver is not a liked owner. The owners and the players hate him. He's our biggest hurdle. He makes promises and steps in where he should not making Ryan's job more difficult. He promised Goran more playing time as the primary BH. Then he promised IT a 3 guard rotation with the promise of Bledsoe not likely coming back. Contradictory crap.

From a fan perspective though what Goran is doing is bad. He's crapping on the future of this team by the way he positioned himself. He's letting his agent do it. But he consents to what his agent does and does not do. As fans we are tied to the team. So when a player damages a team (and he is damaging us to a large degree) you lose respect and desire for that player.

Say what you want about Bledsoe but he didn't publically hurt us. He did what was in his best interest for him and his family while not **** all over our Franchise.

And I am not Paul Coro. I'm much prettier than him

you mentioned before IT more likely to be dealt, any hints on likely destinations?