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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1781 » by SSOL » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:28 pm

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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1782 » by letsgosuns » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:29 pm

2.5 hours til the deadline and still no one has a clue what the Suns are going to do. Most tight lipped front office I have ever seen. This is nuts.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1783 » by gaspar » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:30 pm

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Jdiddy701 wrote:Well if Dragic doesn't get traded, we are f'd. Suns will give him a max and our future is done.


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Maybe not. Sarver is supposedly really pissed.


They need to get rid of someone. My guess is IT if Sarver is ticked.

Bob is pissed at Dragic.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1784 » by toucansma » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:30 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.


It worked with Steve Nash. Maybe Goran will cool off by then.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1785 » by Barkley6 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:30 pm

Looks like Denver is going full on tank. If they can deal Lawson, they will be incredibly bad. Hopefully this means they lose enough down the stretch to make the Lakers sweat about that pick.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1786 » by carey » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:31 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.


If you have been reading the forum at all, I mean, it's been mentioned a dozen times.... you can not do 5 year S&Ts anymore. You also can't trade to tax teams. Options would still be limited even in the Summer.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1787 » by JTrain » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:31 pm

Prettier than Coro? Now I know it's all bull****.
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Post#1788 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:31 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.
I'll say it one more time.... 5 YEAR SIGN AND TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE. Goran can only get that extra money from the team he's on come Friday not in a sign and trade.

If gorans doesn't get traded it's a complete disaster with 0 good outcomes. We probably just lose him for nothing and the only alternative is giving him 100 million
.. puke

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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1789 » by Grots » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:32 pm

A great way to make sure no attractive free agent comes here in the next handful years is to screw around with Dragic like that. He may deserve it, but it's dumb as hell.

Hopefully McD can convince him otherwise.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1790 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:34 pm

Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.


Just... no way. He would just go to the Lakers or Knicks outright. The best markets also happen to have the best roster situations and the most cap space. Not a plan. That's death.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1791 » by ShawnBronald » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:34 pm

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Post#1792 » by asubennett » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:35 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.
I'll say it one more time.... 5 YEAR SIGN AND TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE. Goran can only get that extra money from the team he's on come Friday not in a sign and trade.

If gorans doesn't get traded it's a complete disaster with 0 good outcomes. We probably just lose him for nothing and the only alternative is giving him 100 million
.. puke

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You don't lose him for nothing. You lose his cap hold and obtain his cap space. I hope Sarver 1) Doesn't trade him 2) Benches him for the season / suspends him 3)Trades IT and sends a clear message to this team that Bledsoe is our leader follow him.

In hindsight, how Bledsoe handled himself during his contract speaks volumes about him as a leader. Not all leaders are vocal.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1793 » by schnakenpopanz » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:35 pm

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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1794 » by Barkley6 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:35 pm

carey wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.


If you have been reading the forum at all, I mean, it's been mentioned a dozen times.... you can not do 5 year S&Ts anymore. You also can't trade to tax teams. Options would still be limited even in the Summer.


Knicks likely won't be a tax team, Lakers wont be either once they renounce Bird rights on Lin and Nash. But yeah, forgot about the 5 year rule.
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Re: Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1795 » by rsavaj » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:36 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.
I'll say it one more time.... 5 YEAR SIGN AND TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE. Goran can only get that extra money from the team he's on come Friday not in a sign and trade.

If gorans doesn't get traded it's a complete disaster with 0 good outcomes. We probably just lose him for nothing and the only alternative is giving him 100 million
.. puke

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Pretty much. You either move Goran for scraps, let him walk for nothing, or offer him 100/5.

Lose, lose, lose.
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1796 » by JTrain » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:36 pm

Maybe this is all a ploy by Duffy to make a statement since the FO was basically ignoring Dragic's concerns. They make the list of teams so small and ridiculous that a trade can't be worked out. Then we trade IT and meet Dragic's demands and pay him big.

Kobe 2007.

(I give this theory a 7% chance of being correct.)
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Re: Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1797 » by STEV13 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:36 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
STEV13 wrote:If we do stand pat, maybe this is what the FO's thinking.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/phoenix-su ... 00282.html


Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.
I'll say it one more time.... 5 YEAR SIGN AND TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE. Goran can only get that extra money from the team he's on come Friday not in a sign and trade.

If gorans doesn't get traded it's a complete disaster with 0 good outcomes. We probably just lose him for nothing and the only alternative is giving him 100 million
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Or we piss Dragic off/get back at him by causing him his $20M
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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1798 » by In Len We Trust » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:37 pm

Its gotta be Miami. I can't see a trade happening with anyone else. I'd be SHOCKED if Dragic ended up anywhere else.
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Post#1799 » by WeekapaugGroove » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:39 pm

rsavaj wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Barkley6 wrote:
Could be. Could also be that Suns aren't interested in the crap that is being offered now, and feel like they can get Goran his extra $20m in a sign and trade......but at a price. Draft picks+ a HUGE TPE from whichever team he decides to go to.
I'll say it one more time.... 5 YEAR SIGN AND TRADES ARE NOT ALLOWED ANYMORE. Goran can only get that extra money from the team he's on come Friday not in a sign and trade.

If gorans doesn't get traded it's a complete disaster with 0 good outcomes. We probably just lose him for nothing and the only alternative is giving him 100 million
.. puke

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Pretty much. You either move Goran for scraps, let him walk for nothing, or offer him 100/5.

Lose, lose, lose.
yeah seems pretty simple to me. **** if the best deal is some picks a few years from now from from Miami take it. The only trade that would be worse than just keeping him is taking a bad contract back.

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Re: Official Trade Thread: How to Trade Your Dragon 

Post#1800 » by STEV13 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:39 pm

Acc to Woj Lopez/Jackson deal about to go down. Cant wait for the main event; Dragic fiasco.

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