Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

3pt_chucker · Post #1181 » by **3pt_chucker** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:23 pm

Wow. I'm speechless. This team will never go anywhere with Billy King in charge.

Post #1182 » by **CalamityX12** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:24 pm

How did Houston get McDaniels... wtf.... why is that teams simply don't trade much to get great value in return yet we're a bunch of morons....

Post #1183 » by **NyCeEvO** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:34 pm

Now that the dust has settled, I'm betting that Presti set this up and wanted to screw King over for leaving OKC at the trade table a few weeks ago.

In our deal, OKC was giving up quite a bit for Lopez, who could've easily left at the end of the season, and forced us to trade KG. Within 30 minutes, they end up getting Kanter, Singler, and DJ Augustin while trading Jackson to DET. It was done so quickly that one really has to wonder if it was pre-meditated.

Much respect for Presti if that is true.

And just as I theorized yesterday, we now see that the improvement of the other teams fighting for the 8th spot has actually occurred.

We are 1 game behind the Heat who just acquired Goran Dragic.
We are .5 games ahead of Boston who just acquired a Isaiah Thomas.
We are 1 game ahead of Detroit who just replaced the loss of Jennings with Reggie Jackson.

Yeah, we probably improve with Thad but Plumlee lost his mentor, Brook is reportedly not sure whether he's going to opt-in, and MIN fans think that Thad will opt-in.

This is just about the worst scenario that could've happened.

F3LON · Post #1184 » by **F3LON** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:35 pm

3pt_chucker wrote:Wow. I'm speechless. This team will never go anywhere with Billy King in charge.

Im glad that the OKC trade fell through. Jackson is a MEH PG. I would rather have Lopez.

Zachbretton · Post #1185 » by **Zachbretton** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:37 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:Now that the dust has settled, I'm betting that Presti set this up and wanted to screw King over for leaving OKC at the trade table a few weeks ago.

In our deal, OKC was giving up quite a bit for Lopez, who could've easily left at the end of the season, and forced us to trade KG. Within 30 minutes, they end up getting Kanter, Singler, and DJ Augustin while trading Jackson to DET. It was done so quickly that one really has to wonder if it was pre-meditated.

Much respect for Presti if that is true.

And just as I theorized yesterday, we now see that the improvement of the other teams fighting for the 8th spot has actually occurred.

We are 1 game behind the Heat who just acquired Goran Dragic.
We are .5 games ahead of Boston who just acquired a Isaiah Thomas.
We are 1 game ahead of Detroit who just replaced the loss of Jennings with Reggie Jackson.

Yeah, we probably improve with Thad but Plumlee lost his mentor, Brook is reportedly not sure whether he's going to opt-in, and MIN fans think that Thad will opt-in.

This is just about the worst scenario that could've happened.

the worst kick to all of this is if Lopez Opts out and we lose him for nothing.

**** this is all a mess.

He probably will opt out, we tried to trade him 10000x and never got it done, its so clear we dont want him... but now he can leave on his own regard

F3LON · Post #1186 » by **F3LON** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:37 pm

Paradise wrote:
Prokorov wrote:celtics get better
heat get better
we take on salary

couldnt really have gone much worse. no playoffs, and we now dont get under the lux tax for next season and maybe king overpays Thad on an extension to compound things

Thad Young is a massive upgrade to KG at this point. We still came away with a good deal and Young is way better than Hickson or McGee.

Agreed.

If we can essential turn KG into Young and Blatche then I will feel much better about our chances of making the playoffs.

Prokorov · Post #1187 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:39 pm

Paradise wrote:
Prokorov wrote:celtics get better
heat get better
we take on salary

couldnt really have gone much worse. no playoffs, and we now dont get under the lux tax for next season and maybe king overpays Thad on an extension to compound things

Thad Young is a massive upgrade to KG at this point. We still came away with a good deal and Young is way better than Hickson or McGee.

on what planet is thad young a "massive" upgrade to KG? the guy has a 14 PER averages 5 reounds a game and has a 49 TS%. i get he can play back to backs and more minutes but no way is he any more then a minor upgrade to KG. plus he adds 10 million in salary so we no longer get out of the tax anymore

Lamak · Post #1188 » by **Lamak** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:40 pm

F3LON wrote:
3pt_chucker wrote:Wow. I'm speechless. This team will never go anywhere with Billy King in charge.

Im glad that the OKC trade fell through. Jackson is a MEH PG. I would rather have Lopez.

This x100

Lamak · Post #1189 » by **Lamak** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:43 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Paradise wrote:
Prokorov wrote:celtics get better
heat get better
we take on salary

couldnt really have gone much worse. no playoffs, and we now dont get under the lux tax for next season and maybe king overpays Thad on an extension to compound things

Thad Young is a massive upgrade to KG at this point. We still came away with a good deal and Young is way better than Hickson or McGee.

on what planet is thad young a "massive" upgrade to KG? the guy has a 14 PER averages 5 reounds a game and has a 49 TS%. i get he can play back to backs and more minutes but no way is he any more then a minor upgrade to KG. plus he adds 10 million in salary so we no longer get out of the tax anymore

The guy can run and jump at the age of a 26yr old compared to 38yr old KG. That alone is a massive upgrade. Defensively he leaves something to be desired, but KG wasn't even playing enough minutes for his defense to even be noted as great or anything. Thad can spread the floor some, run in transition, catch oops, and he seemed to have a high motor when playing meaningful basketball.

Palmeirense · Post #1190 » by **Palmeirense** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:43 pm

**** billy king. Yeah we got better with thad, but seriously, all teams battling with us for the last playoff spots did as.well

Prokorov · Post #1191 » by **Prokorov** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:45 pm

Zachbretton wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:Now that the dust has settled, I'm betting that Presti set this up and wanted to screw King over for leaving OKC at the trade table a few weeks ago.

In our deal, OKC was giving up quite a bit for Lopez, who could've easily left at the end of the season, and forced us to trade KG. Within 30 minutes, they end up getting Kanter, Singler, and DJ Augustin while trading Jackson to DET. It was done so quickly that one really has to wonder if it was pre-meditated.

Much respect for Presti if that is true.

And just as I theorized yesterday, we now see that the improvement of the other teams fighting for the 8th spot has actually occurred.

We are 1 game behind the Heat who just acquired Goran Dragic.
We are .5 games ahead of Boston who just acquired a Isaiah Thomas.
We are 1 game ahead of Detroit who just replaced the loss of Jennings with Reggie Jackson.

Yeah, we probably improve with Thad but Plumlee lost his mentor, Brook is reportedly not sure whether he's going to opt-in, and MIN fans think that Thad will opt-in.

This is just about the worst scenario that could've happened.

the worst kick to all of this is if Lopez Opts out and we lose him for nothing.

**** this is all a mess.

He probably will opt out, we tried to trade him 10000x and never got it done, its so clear we dont want him... but now he can leave on his own regard

lopez opting out would be the best possible scenario and a giant blessing. we shed 17M and get under the tax.

but that wont happen. 1 because the bball gods hate me and will keep him here just to torment me. second because he wont get half that if he optsout

Palmeirense · Post #1192 » by **Palmeirense** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:45 pm

Why are you guys interested in Blatche?

Keith Van Horn · Post #1193 » by **Keith Van Horn** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:46 pm

Why didn't king have a backup plan?

I don't want to trade lopez for nothing, but we should have moved him today.

Still can't believe we didn't do the Zeller and Stephenson deal.

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Lamak · Post #1194 » by **Lamak** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:50 pm

I think it is pretty frustrating that we couldn't dump JJ or D-Will, but we already knew nobody wanted their bloated contracts unless we threw more in with it. We're already in too deep at this point, might as well stay on the ship and just add some athleticism and play our guys, ATL is gonna swap picks with us anyway. Hopefully in the offseason King is fired or Prokorov sells and we can go from there with a true rebuild.

Atleast we didn't give up any picks, I don't think players want to sign here, I still remember 2010 free agency.

F3LON · Post #1195 » by **F3LON** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:52 pm

Lamak wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Paradise wrote:
Thad Young is a massive upgrade to KG at this point. We still came away with a good deal and Young is way better than Hickson or McGee.

on what planet is thad young a "massive" upgrade to KG? the guy has a 14 PER averages 5 reounds a game and has a 49 TS%. i get he can play back to backs and more minutes but no way is he any more then a minor upgrade to KG. plus he adds 10 million in salary so we no longer get out of the tax anymore

The guy can run and jump at the age of a 26yr old compared to 38yr old KG. That alone is a massive upgrade. Defensively he leaves something to be desired, but KG wasn't even playing enough minutes for his defense to even be noted as great or anything. Thad can spread the floor some, run in transition, catch oops, and he seemed to have a high motor when playing meaningful basketball.

Well Said.

I've always wanted Thad on the Nets. He gives us multiple looks in that we can go big at SF or small at PF.

MrDollarBills · Post #1196 » by **MrDollarBills** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:53 pm

macgyver893 wrote:Why didn't king have a backup plan?

This is the same man that traded the 6th pick for Gerald Wallace as a back up plan.

Post #1197 » by **CalamityX12** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:54 pm

The best upgrade we got was for someone capable of playing b2b and can run the floor more consistently?

Lance, Lance was right there for us!

Lopez better go HAM down this stretch... but he won't
Dwill better play like a winner again... but he won't
JJ better play better... but he'll complain

no upgrade to the wings where Boogy n AA occupy the time and nothing is showing for it.... SMH

Palmeirense · Post #1198 » by **Palmeirense** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:54 pm

Just saw something concerning. Thad young's dunks last 3 seasons: 82, 57, 14.

Is he declining as an athlete?

Post #1199 » by **CalamityX12** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:55 pm

Lamak wrote:I think it is pretty frustrating that we couldn't dump JJ or D-Will, but we already knew nobody wanted their bloated contracts unless we threw more in with it. We're already in too deep at this point, might as well stay on the ship and just add some athleticism and play our guys, ATL is gonna swap picks with us anyway. Hopefully in the offseason King is fired or Prokorov sells and we can go from there with a true rebuild.

Atleast we didn't give up any picks, I don't think players want to sign here, I still remember 2010 free agency.

what picks could we give up before 2019???? not even sure we have 2nd rounders

spearsy23 · Post #1200 » by **spearsy23** » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:55 pm

I don't think Presti purposefully f*cked you guys, but if he did I love it. Not because it hurts your team, but because **** Billy King, hopefully this will get him fired and you can get a realGM. Good luck guys, it might seem a ways away but there are brighter days ahead.