Lopez for Reggie Jackson falls apart; Nets acquire Thad Young for KG (UPDATE: Page 58)

[CalamityX12]

Just saw something concerning. Thad young's dunks last 3 seasons: 82, 57, 14.

Is he declining as an athlete?

If a player is declining then he should be on the BKN Nets....

[MrDollarBills]

Sounds like another bum ass player that king trips over himself to trade for

[Palmeirense]

Just saw something concerning. Thad young's dunks last 3 seasons: 82, 57, 14.

Is he declining as an athlete?

If a player is declining then he should be on the BKN Nets....

Lmao, sad but ture.

[F3LON]

I don't think Presti purposefully f*cked you guys, but if he did I love it. Not because it hurts your team, but because **** Billy King, hopefully this will get him fired and you can get a realGM. Good luck guys, it might seem a ways away but there are brighter days ahead.

LOL

You are so butt hurt.

Enes Kanter sucks.

[Lamak]

I think it is pretty frustrating that we couldn't dump JJ or D-Will, but we already knew nobody wanted their bloated contracts unless we threw more in with it. We're already in too deep at this point, might as well stay on the ship and just add some athleticism and play our guys, ATL is gonna swap picks with us anyway. Hopefully in the offseason King is fired or Prokorov sells and we can go from there with a true rebuild.

Atleast we didn't give up any picks, I don't think players want to sign here, I still remember 2010 free agency.

what picks could we give up before 2019???? not even sure we have 2nd rounders

I was worried BK would find a way to trade more picks in a salary dump, maybe 2020 lol

[spearsy23]

I don't think Presti purposefully f*cked you guys, but if he did I love it. Not because it hurts your team, but because **** Billy King, hopefully this will get him fired and you can get a realGM. Good luck guys, it might seem a ways away but there are brighter days ahead.

LOL

You are so butt hurt.

Enes Kanter sucks.

Butt hurt? We just got a way better deal

[F3LON]

Sounds like another bum ass player that king trips over himself to trade for

I dont think so. Young is going to upgrade this team dramatically. I personally would resign Blatche and go big

Plumlee
Blatche
Young
JJ
Jack

JJ is much better at SG then SF since he should definitely have a big size advantage. I think part of his struggles at times have been due to having a true forward playing him.

We could pretty much switch on every matchup with this lineup which would help the defense.

Keep Lopez coming off the bench and let him do his thing in the post.

[MGrand15]

Just saw something concerning. Thad young's dunks last 3 seasons: 82, 57, 14.

Is he declining as an athlete?

Eh. It's possible but his situations has changed quite a bit. He was on an actual team when he had 82 dunks. 57 dunks - he was the only NBA player on the Sixer squad. This year, the Wolves have had no PG most of the year (Mo Williams only) and awful spacing.

He's pretty young to decline like that.

[F3LON]

I don't think Presti purposefully f*cked you guys, but if he did I love it. Not because it hurts your team, but because **** Billy King, hopefully this will get him fired and you can get a realGM. Good luck guys, it might seem a ways away but there are brighter days ahead.

LOL

You are so butt hurt.

Enes Kanter sucks.

Butt hurt? We just got a way better deal

Better deal? Kanter is pretty much mediocre at everything. Lopez has flaws in his game but his offense is elite. Thunder have to get through Duncan, Bogut and Gasol and Lopez has the abilty to get them into foul trouble. Kanter is just a guy.

[spearsy23]

Better deal? Kanter is pretty much mediocre at everything. Lopez has flaws in his game but his offense is elite. Thunder have to get through Duncan, Bogut and Gasol and Lopez has the abilty to get them into foul trouble. Kanter is just a guy.

If you say so, bud. I think you're about the only one who would evaluate it that way, but you're entitled to your opinion.

[MGrand15]

I don't think Presti purposefully f*cked you guys, but if he did I love it. Not because it hurts your team, but because **** Billy King, hopefully this will get him fired and you can get a realGM. Good luck guys, it might seem a ways away but there are brighter days ahead.

King **** himself. As always.

Presti did what a good GM does. Have multiple options. Work the phones for awhile. Talk to multiple teams.

This could've been a done deal WEEKS ago. Billy decided to wait until the day of the deadline to talk to ONLY OKC about Brook. Literally nothing else was floated out there. Embarrassing that one team pulling out leaves us without any options. Of course, OKC gets a MUCH better deal and we get absolutely nothing.

[F3LON]

Best thing about Young is that he is lefty. This means we can place him on one block and Lopez or Plumlee on the other since they go over different shoulders when performing their post moves.

[enetric]

maybe you cant blame king if okc pulls out now.... BUT reports are okc and char thought they had a deal last month, you can certainly blame him for that

Or credit him for NOT making a deal last month that offered nothing.

it offered players who want to be here that the fans could get behind as well as zellar, a ok young player on a rookie deal. It also dealt from strength(C) to fill our weakest spot (SG) and being just 1 game out of the playoffs, maybe that makes the difference.

i dont think 6M in salary relief, Zeller, and a flyer on lance while balancing the roster is nothing. its not adding a star you can building around, but it certainly isnt nothing. It also rids of of lopez, who this year and last year we have been better without and whom some fans cant stand watching

I would have been fine with this trade. I reject much of the premise though. Any time someone pitches the idea of I hate that guy...we should trade him for anyone even if that guy is much much worse but he tries harder I get a little nausea.

Trades are directional. You are either trading up or down in the NBA. Know where you want to go and make a sound decision. Far too often it is blind hate for a player around here followed by an intense desire to acquire someone who isnt close to as good or a deal that doesnt offer future picks. It is hey...lets pretend this offer or that rumored trade makes us better right now. I cant look at a face value trade of Lance Stephenson for Brook Lopez and say oh man....King should have made that trade because it would have made us better right now when I can see that as disappointing as Lopez can be he destroys Lance Stephenson.


And I further cant justify we can root for a back up scrub big man....over a center who cant drop 20 per night. Like him or not...yes worth more in present day value than that. And that's my challenge to you. The only sentence that really matters is "rid ourselves of Lopez". I fear you and some others are so consumed with it that your excitement isnt over the warmed over trash sometimes being discussed its over ANYTHING NOT LOPEZ!

That's when objectivity goes out the window. You know what it reminds me of? When Raptor fans decided that following some tough injury years and perceived lack of effort, Vince Carter was the reason they were struggling when in fact despite some issues he was still their best player. I would always prefer to be the team acquiring that type of player not the one dumping him for pretend junk.

At the end of the day it doesnt matter. I have always felt Lopez was far closer to being a solid #2 than Deron was to being the supposed superstar we traded for.

Eventually we will rebuild and if we have to dump better players for lesser ones the hope is that we can acquire some sort of future trade assets.

[enetric]

I six I was fine with any rebuild move. But I expect looking that roster on paper we get vastly worse not better in pursuit of the playoffs. I think you have always under valued Lopez. Not that I think the criticisms are unfair...but the comparison of him to other players as if some of the hot buttered trash offered was an improvement in win now talent is my issue.

Hope I am wrong and somehow we improve.

And side note. I cringe when I read things about players fitting this coach. Unless you have Phil Jackson coaching you....that shouldn't be in the conversation. Not to mention I don't know how anyone is happy to have this guy coaching this team.

Maybe i have undervalued lopez as a player. but i think you overrate his impact on winning.

We were better without him last year. there are several reasons that dont have to do with lopez as to why that isnt the case. We are also better without lopez this year (5-5 without him, 16-26 with him). maybe that is a small sample. Either way, this season, brook lopez surely isnt the difference between us being a .400 team and a .200 team.

I think it is going overboard to suggest we get much much worse with jackson in place of lopez.

Well I appreciate you acknowledging that.

I do however disagree on the evaluation that we are better off without him this year or last.

That roster last year was a massive overhaul plus new first time coach. We have many examples of teams far better struggling early in the season as they figure each other out. I firmly believe that we would have won more games with Lopez than we did without him in the second half. He would have IMO made us a much better team.

And this year...how is there no accountability to the coach? For all the whining around here about Kidd...Avery and PJ dont look now but he is playing the guys you want him to play and we are vastly worse in a weaker EC. I know its hard for the Lopez haters to consider...but perhaps the key was to find a coach that makes sense with Lopez rather than pretend that this guy who will wear out his welcome once again is somehow noble for his tough talk and arrogant lineup changes.

[F3LON]

Better deal? Kanter is pretty much mediocre at everything. Lopez has flaws in his game but his offense is elite. Thunder have to get through Duncan, Bogut and Gasol and Lopez has the abilty to get them into foul trouble. Kanter is just a guy.

If you say so, bud. I think you're about the only one who would evaluate it that way, but you're entitled to your opinion.

When you see him play vs a good defender you will see how good he is.

You got what you payed for. Getting Lopez would have been a steal for OKC. Im not even a Lopez fan but he is far better then Kanter.

[MGrand15]

I hope Deron took this long All Star break to stay in shape and do basketball work. I hope Joe got his much needed rest.

We're sadly going to need A LOT out of them. The more we rely on Jack, the more we're going to sink. No doubt in my mind about that. He's tough but he kills ball movement, isn't a good defender, doesn't take or make 3s. This has been his MO even when he was on GS. He was taking possessions away from Steph Curry. He's not going to defer to Joe Johnson or Brook Lopez or Deron.

[F3LON]

I don't think Presti purposefully f*cked you guys, but if he did I love it. Not because it hurts your team, but because **** Billy King, hopefully this will get him fired and you can get a realGM. Good luck guys, it might seem a ways away but there are brighter days ahead.

King **** himself. As always.

Presti did what a good GM does. Have multiple options. Work the phones for awhile. Talk to multiple teams.

This could've been a done deal WEEKS ago. Billy decided to wait until the day of the deadline to talk to ONLY OKC about Brook. Literally nothing else was floated out there. Embarrassing that one team pulling out leaves us without any options. Of course, OKC gets a MUCH better deal and we get absolutely nothing.

Did you ever consider that there werent any other worthwhile deals out there?

The OKC package was horrible and for all of you who knocked the Wallace trade, this would have been worse. Jackson is a non impact player.

And Kanter isnt even half the player Lopez is. The Lopez hate goes ridiculously far on this site.

[enetric]

celtics get better
heat get better
we take on salary

couldnt really have gone much worse. no playoffs, and we now dont get under the lux tax for next season and maybe king overpays Thad on an extension to compound things

Throw out cap, upside and everything else for a sec. Right now...today....

Lopez>>>>>KG
T.Young>>>>Lance Stephenson


Not saying that a reason to do it and under your theory of liking what I root for...my favorite player ever was sent packing today. But short term Thad Young is a better upgrade than the player we could have had 3 weeks ago and it cost us less in player talent. And as much as I love the career of KG believe me I am choking on that statement here in 2015.

[enetric]

MCW on the Bucks? Weird, Knight was balling. Thomas on the Celtics is an interesting pickup.

I am tearing through all of the updates on that crazy deal and the one thing I cant figure out is...what the hell did Philly get for MCW? Does anyone know?

[enetric]

As long as King is GM we're gonna continue getting shafted on trades.. Even on ones we don't make.

But did we get shafted today? If you believe Wojo...Nets were all in on that trade. OKC made a different move.


And had we made that trade...I still say roster would not have improved for this season plus...Heat and Celtics still made bigger moves.