What are the Sixers doing?

[basketball royalty]

would you have kept MCW? That Lakers pick will be top 10, potentially top 3 next year.

As for McDaniels he's an athletic freak but clearly wanted out and not worth the deal he will likely get.

Noel/Embiid is what they are investing in.

MCW for what should be a high pick is fine. McDaniels for Canaan is not.

Canaan is pretty crappy and obviously a tank driver at best. McDaniels did what you could only dream a 2nd round pick would do and they trade him so they don't have to pay him. Who is to say he is not worth what he will get? Who else do they have to pay while waiting for the right pick to land on their team?

[Johnlac1]

Mcw is maybe the worst rookie of the year of all time. Unlike say, Mike Miller, he doesn't have a really good, near-elite obvious NBA skill. the only danger in that pick is that the Lakers sign new players like Durant and love before paying it, at which point it loses value.

Yeah...just an awful player with three triple doubles this year and four or five near triple doubles. No skills whatsoever.

[wicked_crossova]

funny to see the typical Hinkie nut-huggers aren't in this thread

[BullyKing]

would you have kept MCW? That Lakers pick will be top 10, potentially top 3 next year.

As for McDaniels he's an athletic freak but clearly wanted out and not worth the deal he will likely get.

Noel/Embiid is what they are investing in.

MCW for what should be a high pick is fine. McDaniels for Canaan is not.

Canaan is pretty crappy and obviously a tank driver at best. McDaniels did what you could only dream a 2nd round pick would do and they trade him so they don't have to pay him. Who is to say he is not worth what he will get? Who else do they have to pay while waiting for the right pick to land on their team?

KJ got off to a hot start and makes some amazing plays but he's been surpassed at the 3 by Covington and Grant who are both signed long-term for cheap. I think Hinkie viewed it as not worthwhile to give him a lot of money when he's already 3rd on the SF depth chart.

That said, I am a little disappointed in the return.

[GallagherArt]

His play has been horrible this season. But, promise =/= evaluation of current play. Promise reflects potential to play well, which is forward-looking. While I still don't like him nor what I perceive to be the empty stats he puts up, I think he has great promise. Nice try though, and I'm not surprised that this is coming from you, as you've historically had a problem with what I've said about your Sixers.

You're right that promise isn't indicative of current evaluation, however how much promise can you really believe he has when he's 23 years old and your evaluation of him currently is that he puts up empty stats, is horrible, and you don't like him?

23 isn't even close to being a finished product. And plenty of players have worked themselves up from bad play. So it's not a stretch to say that he has promise.

Again, you're right, 23 isn't even close to being a finished product, however it's older than most consider to be a prospect with supposed great promise when the current perceptions of that player are what they are according to you.

[Takingbaconback]

I think KJ is a good prospect but sixers hands were forced to trade him away. I love the MCW trade for bucks and philly. I don't think he's a player to build around for philly but maybe JKidd can utilize him in his offense.

[JaysRangers]

76ers are a joke and Hinkie is the most overrated GM in the entire sports analytics community

[basketball royalty]

would you have kept MCW? That Lakers pick will be top 10, potentially top 3 next year.

As for McDaniels he's an athletic freak but clearly wanted out and not worth the deal he will likely get.

Noel/Embiid is what they are investing in.

MCW for what should be a high pick is fine. McDaniels for Canaan is not.

Canaan is pretty crappy and obviously a tank driver at best. McDaniels did what you could only dream a 2nd round pick would do and they trade him so they don't have to pay him. Who is to say he is not worth what he will get? Who else do they have to pay while waiting for the right pick to land on their team?

KJ got off to a hot start and makes some amazing plays but he's been surpassed at the 3 by Covington and Grant who are both signed long-term for cheap. I think Hinkie viewed it as not worthwhile to give him a lot of money when he's already 3rd on the SF depth chart.
That said, I am a little disappointed in the return.

So who is the SG that is better than him? Covington is good, don't know about Grant but they gave up on him after less than a year. He showed ELITE Defense and CRAZY athleticism. You can't teach that. Who says he is going to be offered a deal that is too much anyway? Indefensible move IMO. It pisses me off because I wish the Raps could have got in on it.

[CrazyKnicks]

Not sure why they keep assembling picks if they fail at developing young talent.

They could have given MCW a shot to see how he does with Embid at least.... Or when he's surrounded by an actual NBA team.

[Mik317]

I can almost swallow the MCW trade...the KJ one?

nah.

KJ was flawed and all that but not for Cannon and a second round pick. He wasn't behind Cov and Grant either...he was the **** starting SG FFS.

Guys you can occasionally dislike some things Hinkie does....it doesnt change the whole IF EVERYTHING WORKS OUT part of the plan but it was a **** deal and a cheap one at best. If KJ walked because he wanted too much..so?

[BullyKing]

MCW for what should be a high pick is fine. McDaniels for Canaan is not.

Canaan is pretty crappy and obviously a tank driver at best. McDaniels did what you could only dream a 2nd round pick would do and they trade him so they don't have to pay him. Who is to say he is not worth what he will get? Who else do they have to pay while waiting for the right pick to land on their team?

KJ got off to a hot start and makes some amazing plays but he's been surpassed at the 3 by Covington and Grant who are both signed long-term for cheap. I think Hinkie viewed it as not worthwhile to give him a lot of money when he's already 3rd on the SF depth chart.
That said, I am a little disappointed in the return.

So who is the SG that is better than him? Covington is good, don't know about Grant but they gave up on him after less than a year. He showed ELITE Defense and CRAZY athleticism. You can't teach that. Who says he is going to be offered a deal that is too much anyway? Indefensible move IMO. It pisses me off because I wish the Raps could have got in on it.

I loved watching KJ but the dude is not a SG. He can't dribble or pass. But yeah, like I said, I would have expected more in return.

[Stills12]

At some point you have to start assembling an actual team. Can't keep trading young players for younger potential players.

And that will happen in due time. Sixers after all are only in Year 2 of their rebuild.

Teams have gone longer with nothing to show for and Hinkie has gotten his share of talent & picks in just these 2 years.

[I_amWEB]

Perhaps going to go after Reggie Jackson in FA?

[mateo82]

I believe the scientific term is "tanking".

[RussellandFlow]

Not saying they will be in the playoffs next year, but why are so many people so sure the Lakers pick will be a top 10 pick next year. A returning Kobe + healthy Randle+ 2015 lotto pick+ cap space= Not so bad.

[Effigy]

Mcw is maybe the worst rookie of the year of all time. Unlike say, Mike Miller, he doesn't have a really good, near-elite obvious NBA skill. the only danger in that pick is that the Lakers sign new players like Durant and love before paying it, at which point it loses value.

Yeah...just an awful player with three triple doubles this year and four or five near triple doubles. No skills whatsoever.

Thank god you're in Miluakee. Finding a beer to cry in tonight shouldn't be a problem.

[Dupp]

They're doing a great job. They didn't see MCW as a long term prospect so they moved him.

[GallagherArt]

Not saying they will be in the playoffs next year, but why are so many people so sure the Lakers pick will be a top 10 pick next year. A returning Kobe + healthy Randle+ 2015 lotto pick+ cap space= Not so bad.

Kobe is going to be 37-38, Randle will have missed an entire season, this applies to Randle as well since he's technically going to be a rookie, but even the best rookies don't usually impact the game in ways that win many more games. We'll see who signs in LA.

[Catchall]

Trying to sell high on assets.

[wicked_crossova]

At some point you have to start assembling an actual team. Can't keep trading young players for younger potential players.

And that will happen in due time. Sixers after all are only in Year 2 of their rebuild.
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That's one way to look at it.


The other way to look at it is that after two whole years, all they have to show for it is 1 starter (Noel), a rookie that has a high risk of injury (Embiid), and a question mark that hasn't played a single game in the NBA (Saric). If that's all they can do in 2 years, how long is it going to take to get a decent team? 5? 10? and what player will want to sign with them when 1) they're horrible or 2) they're decent but they treat their players like numbers in a computer?