Official Trade Thread - Part XXVIII

[gambitx777]

Sessions is not a terrible grab. If he can get back in to form by play off time this could be a solid up grade! Now we should have made other moves! look at what the 76ers were doing, I have no doubt that a second and Thomas would have gotten them to take webby! But oh well. We have some room to bring in a guy of the street. Jerebko, Datome, or Shved could hit the waiver wire soon and I would pick up any of those 3 guys!. Plus China guys coming back and any one else who gets bought out or cut. Kick gooden to the curb and add 2 solid players. It's not the best that could have happened, but its not the worst. Teams like the bucks, the heat and OKC all got better, the pistons did not do to badly either. We just did a moderately good possible upgrade.
If sanders is not as far gone as we think and Shved's issues can be handled. They would help this team a lot. Risky maybe, but if it paid off it could be almost like the deals that were not made. If not there are still guys to bring in that would get minutes over temple/kevin/blair/gooden.

Are we sure we did not get anything else in the Sessions / miller deal?

shved is trash of the worst kind, he's never been decent.

Jonas would be a great grab. He has 3pt range. Doesn't rebound that well but I figure it is hard to rebound in DET with Drummond and Monroe padding their stats. I don't see any reason for BOS to cut him though, they aren't over on players are they?

We might be best off bringing in Birch still and telling Hump to launch 3s :/

I did not know that Kelly and sully were hurt.
I mean there are options, Dominique Jones would be nice him and sessions could hold it down on D in the second unit and if they both played well that would be a nice back up back court. as for a big I think we need to cut gooden and bring in someone. Viacheslav Kravtsoz, Eli Holman, Brandon Costner, Trey Thompkins, Arnett Moultrie, would all be very nice additions.

[queridiculo]

So, according to the Washington Post the Wizards believe that Sessions. drop off in production may have had to do with his balky back.

What's the over under that he'll get surgery within the next three to four months?




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[Ruzious]

So, according to the Washington Post the Wizards believe that Sessions. drop off in production may have had to do with his balky back.

What's the over under that he'll get surgery within the next three to four months?

But before that, sign him to a 4 year extension.

[TheSecretWeapon]

So, according to the Washington Post the Wizards believe that Sessions. drop off in production may have had to do with his balky back.

What's the over under that he'll get surgery within the next three to four months?

That's just silliness. Balky backs routinely fix themselves.

[nate33]

So, according to the Washington Post the Wizards believe that Sessions. drop off in production may have had to do with his balky back.

What's the over under that he'll get surgery within the next three to four months?

That's just silliness. Balky backs routinely fix themselves.

[WallToWall]

So, according to the Washington Post the Wizards believe that Sessions. drop off in production may have had to do with his balky back.

What's the over under that he'll get surgery within the next three to four months?

That's just silliness. Balky backs routinely fix themselves.

I am sure our crack medical staff looked at it before the trade went through. We're good, nothing to be concerned about.

[dckingsfan]

That would explain why he could not stay in front of ANYONE

Sessions + Seraphin on D should be really interesting for the second unit

[Ruzious]

Thomas Robinson was bought out today. Any thoughts on whether the Wiz should make a run at him? He's an excellent rebounder, but he has several issues on offense (as he did in college) and fouls a lot.

[TheSecretWeapon]

Thomas Robinson was bought out today. Any thoughts on whether the Wiz should make a run at him? He's an excellent rebounder, but he has several issues on offense (as he did in college) and fouls a lot.

Robinson has played poorly in the NBA. Don't see much point in bringing him in.

[nuposse04]

Thomas Robinson was bought out today. Any thoughts on whether the Wiz should make a run at him? He's an excellent rebounder, but he has several issues on offense (as he did in college) and fouls a lot.

I think finding a shot blocking 5 or a stretch big is probably a bigger priority, and I say this as someone who really wants to see T-Rob find success.

[Dat2U]

Undersized PFs simply make for disastrous top 5 picks.... see Thomas Robinson & Anthony Bennett as very recent examples. Two guys many folks here were highly interested in during their respective drafts.

[Ruzious]

I concur with all 3 responses - though I'm not sure he's under-sized. He looks the part and has the physical ability - he's just not a real good basketball player.

[nate33]

Undersized PFs simply make for disastrous top 5 picks.... see Thomas Robinson & Anthony Bennett as very recent examples. Two guys many folks here were highly interested in during their respective drafts.

Yeah, but Michael Beasley and Derrick Williams panned out just fine.

[hands11]

At least I won't have to read about how we are the oldest team in the league anymore. Gotta factor that in, right ?

And if we got rid of Gooden (not that we should), we would average even younger.

Which is why complaining saying they were an old team was such a joke.

Specially since Rasual doesn't play near his age. Dude is 35 and he plays like he is 30

And Gooden at 33 is not a big deal. Dude should be fresh as a daisy having not logged many minutes this year.

That only leave Paul as the old dude.

Miller made them look like a much older team then they actually are.

[hands11]

Interesting Read on how the trade was actually pulled off

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/2/20 ... de-machine

Nice to know someone know what they are doing regarding the rules.

We shouldn't forget the TPE we got here.

And that extra room might mean a better player then vet min.

I guess when you add it all up, it was a decent little deal they pulled off.

Younger, faster player that drives, shoot more three, get to the line more, has some upside if the fit is right, signed next year so I imagine less cap hold, less money this year, TPE and whatever player we can now add..

Ray Allen ? Who knows.

[LyricalRico]

Interesting Read on how the trade was actually pulled off

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/2/20 ... de-machine

Nice to know someone know what they are doing regarding the rules.

We shouldn't forget the TPE we got here.

And that extra room might mean a better player then vet min.

I guess when you add it all up, it was a decent little deal they pulled off.

Younger, faster player that drives, shoot more three, get to the line more, has some upside if the fit is right, signed next year so I imagine less cap hold, less money this year, TPE and whatever player we can now add..

Ray Allen ? Who knows.

Exactly.

[TheSecretWeapon]

At least I won't have to read about how we are the oldest team in the league anymore. Gotta factor that in, right ?

And if we got rid of Gooden (not that we should), we would average even younger.

Which is why complaining saying they were an old team was such a joke.

Specially since Rasual doesn't play near his age. Dude is 35 and he plays like he is 30

And Gooden at 33 is not a big deal. Dude should be fresh as a daisy having not logged many minutes this year.

That only leave Paul as the old dude.

Miller made them look like a much older team then they actually are.

Not really. Us stat goobers use minutes-weighted age. Miller certainly pulled the Wizards up a bit, but he was only getting 12.4 minutes per game. The Wizards rotation is pretty old -- Pierce is an NBA senior citizen. After him, Nenê is at the tail end of "middle-aged". Gortat is middle-aged by NBA standards. So is Sessions. Butler is old. So is Gooden.

The Wizards have one quality young player (Wall). Beal and Porter have potential and are expected to be good in the future. Seraphin is pretty young, but not so good. They won't use Blair.

Switching from Miller to Sessions might knock the Wiz to 8th oldest in minutes-weighted age.

[gambitx777]

Sessions was a calculated risk, if he can pull it together, he will be worlds better than Miller at this point. if not he is not much worse!

[TGW]

Interesting Read on how the trade was actually pulled off

http://www.bulletsforever.com/2015/2/20 ... de-machine

Nice to know someone know what they are doing regarding the rules.

We shouldn't forget the TPE we got here.

And that extra room might mean a better player then vet min.

I guess when you add it all up, it was a decent little deal they pulled off.

Younger, faster player that drives, shoot more three, get to the line more, has some upside if the fit is right, signed next year so I imagine less cap hold, less money this year, TPE and whatever player we can now add..

Ray Allen ? Who knows.

Exactly.

Exactly what? You honestly believe Sessions is an upgrade? I know your rose-colored glasses want you to think Sessions is better than Miller, but this was not a good trade. Miller was a captain for that second unit—Sessions literally is better at nothing other than maybe penetrating (and missing shots).

Going from 39 to 29 isn't a move made for youth. That's a stupid argument that doesn't apply. At this point, we need players that can contribute and play at a high level, and Sessions doesn't fit that bill. Neither will some bum they sign off the scrap heap for around the vet min.

[gambitx777]

Exactly what? You honestly believe Sessions is an upgrade? I know your rose-colored glasses want you to think Sessions is better than Miller, but this was not a good trade. Miller was a captain for that second unit—Sessions literally is better at nothing other than maybe penetrating (and missing shots).

Going from 39 to 29 isn't a move made for youth. That's a stupid argument that doesn't apply. At this point, we need players that can contribute and play at a high level, and Sessions doesn't fit that bill. Neither will some bum they sign off the scrap heap for around the vet min.

It's not like Sessions is a scrub, hes not. a down year sure, but he is not a bad player. Last year we would have killed to get him. if he get's back to form he will be a lot better than miller, if not he won't be much worse. Plus we have more flexibility. We can go and bring in a Seth Curry, Kalin Lucas, Bryce Cotton, Aaron Craft, Peyton Siva, or a Gary Talton and not have Miller going nuclear because he's not playing. Then if who ever we bring in flops we have Sessions to come in and give us some solid play. There are some advantages to having sessions.