OT - NBDL Team Experimenting w/ Grinnell College Frenetic Offensive System

[Wont PerDont]

I keep forgetting how old I am since this happened right after my senior year in HS...

Look up 1989-1990 Loyola Marymount.

2nd round of march madness... 149-115 Loyola over Michigan.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIF1TFwBe2A[/youtube]

Paul Westhead tried to bring it to the NBA with the Nuggets.

Didn't we just see this happen also in the last decade with the Suns which got Nash 2 MVPs?

And running that style in Denver is the perfect place for it to work (if it were ever going to at the NBA level). Run teams to death in that altitude where they come in once or twice a season not acclimated for it during a road trip and if you have the system/personnel you SHOULD dominate a LOT of second halves on your way to some easy wins. Makes me think it's too gimmicky for the NBA.

[kyrv]

Wouldn't work in the NBA.

Already working for Milwaukee.

Nobody on that team plays more than 29 minutes, they play pressure defense attacking the ballhandler, they'll take steals over a contested shot, and they have the #3 defense in the league.

That's not quite the Grinnell system. You should YouTube it (I can't at work).

-Speed up the game as much as possible. Get a lot more field goal attempts than the opposition and make sure most of them are 3's.
-Defensively, a field goal attempt or a made basket is better than a stop in play
-Quick shots early in the shot clock, preferably threes.
-Full court press after every made basket
-4 Players going for the offensive rebound
-Kicking back out for more 3 point attempts on an offensive board.
-Always double team the ballhandler

That sounds really entertaining to watch to be honest.

Also if a mediocre team does this and they are mediocre people will say "it doesn't work", of course hard to tell how they would be otherwise unless there is a big increase or decrease in wins.

Sounds like a major pita to play against too.

[kyrv]

I keep forgetting how old I am since this happened right after my senior year in HS...

Look up 1989-1990 Loyola Marymount.

2nd round of march madness... 149-115 Loyola over Michigan.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIF1TFwBe2A[/youtube]

Paul Westhead tried to bring it to the NBA with the Nuggets.

Didn't we just see this happen also in the last decade with the Suns which got Nash 2 MVPs?

And running that style in Denver is the perfect place for it to work (if it were ever going to at the NBA level). Run teams to death in that altitude where they come in once or twice a season not acclimated for it during a road trip and if you have the system/personnel you SHOULD dominate a LOT of second halves on your way to some easy wins. Makes me think it's too gimmicky for the NBA.

Good call, if you could hand pick a city, Denver seems like the choice. (Sorry Mecca.)

[Red Larrivee]

That sounds really entertaining to watch to be honest.

Also if a mediocre team does this and they are mediocre people will say "it doesn't work", of course hard to tell how they would be otherwise unless there is a big increase or decrease in wins.

Sounds like a major pita to play against too.

I'm surprised ESPN hasn't decided to air a game of there's yet. It's a pretty crazy scheme overall and usually there's one shooter on the court who gets a ton of points.

I just can't see something like this working in the NBA. It wasn't created to win games.

[kyrv]

That sounds really entertaining to watch to be honest.

Also if a mediocre team does this and they are mediocre people will say "it doesn't work", of course hard to tell how they would be otherwise unless there is a big increase or decrease in wins.

Sounds like a major pita to play against too.

I'm surprised ESPN hasn't decided to air a game of there's yet. It's a pretty crazy scheme overall and usually there's one shooter on the court who gets a ton of points.

I just can't see something like this working in the NBA. It wasn't created to win games.

I wonder if some form of it, a compromise, would work, although we could maybe argue Phoenix did a light form of this?

[Red Larrivee]

I wonder if some form of it, a compromise, would work, although we could maybe argue Phoenix did a light form of this?

I guess there are some casual similarities, but I would say D'Antoni's offense was closer to being Chip Kelly's offense than Grinnell. I don't think Grinnell's sytem is meant for the higher level of play. It just throws away too many traditional and essential principles:

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMHvbjNtI8w[/youtube]

[dougthonus]

I don't think any team could play this for any length of time and be successful at the NBA level, not even mediocre.

I think it is something you could practice as a set to use at end of games when you're down and want to try and make a big run, but this is too easy to stop with NBA caliber defenders IMO.