Goran Dragic Appreciation Thread

[garrick]

I come in peace!

Looking up Dragic I see he scores but how is his passing? Is he a shot first PG or a mix? Do his teammates like him?

He is a willing passer however he does have a tendency to put his head down on drives and not really find the open man as well as Bledsoe does.
I'd say he is more or less a combo guard who passes well yet is not an elite passer like Nash or CP3 but he has never been given reigns to an elite team yet so I imagine his assist numbers will rise in Miami.

The Heat are an "elite team" in your book? lol

If the new big 3 are healthy then yes but with Bosh likely sidelined the rest of the season it doesn't seem to be the case anymore.
Their bench is garbage but that will be likely be addressed in the off season.

[jeff2020]

will always remember goran for his performance in game 3 of the 2010 western conf semis against san antonio to give us a 3-0 series lead and get a little revenge for 2007.

[STEV13]

Thanks Goran, you will be missed. Now my two favorite Suns have left (see avatar), but I'm still a Suns fan... and maybe I'll be one for life.

[bigsportsfan2]

I'm honestly starting to lose my love for the Suns. Maybe it's because I became a fan during Nash's tenure here and I feel kind of lost in the shuffle. I have zero faith in our FO or Bledsoe/Knight....what a horrible trade. Dragic was a fantastic player, and we put him with three PG's who need the ball to be effective. It's madness.

Goodbye, Dragon. Tear **** up in the EC and win a damn 'chip.

You could become a HEAT FAN and follow your hero to the Championships

[SUN]

I'm honestly starting to lose my love for the Suns. Maybe it's because I became a fan during Nash's tenure here and I feel kind of lost in the shuffle. I have zero faith in our FO or Bledsoe/Knight....what a horrible trade. Dragic was a fantastic player, and we put him with three PG's who need the ball to be effective. It's madness.

Goodbye, Dragon. Tear **** up in the EC and win a damn 'chip.

You could become a HEAT FAN and follow your hero to the Championships

You think I signed up here in 2010 to follow Goran Dragic?

[bwgood77]

The thing that makes Goran stand out for me is the fact that he is among the very few, not only in this lineup but for years, who actually really cares about that logo on center court. I think he has said many times that he's been a Suns fan before coming to the NBA. Then he came back to the organization that traded him, came back being the second choise (after Gordon), and took only 7 mln when he could have taken 10 easily. Then struggled through all the mishaps of the organization in recent years without much complaints and gave his all.
I think that everyone who doesn't appreciate having a player like this on his team and is happy to see him gone just like that doesn't care about that logo as well.

Yes, it's amazing how many people worship McD and his every word. Dragic was a great player for the Suns. I'm glad he got to go to a situation he will be appreciated. Given the circumstances of the moves McD made, the trade was the right move, but the circumstances should have never gotten to that point.

I doubt you are reading this Goran, and hopefully not since so many douchebags talk ****, but if you are, good luck, and thanks for the fun watching you and good times, and coming back to the Suns after they traded you.

[SunsRback4Good]

I'm honestly starting to lose my love for the Suns. Maybe it's because I became a fan during Nash's tenure here and I feel kind of lost in the shuffle. I have zero faith in our FO or Bledsoe/Knight....what a horrible trade. Dragic was a fantastic player, and we put him with three PG's who need the ball to be effective. It's madness.

Goodbye, Dragon. Tear **** up in the EC and win a damn 'chip.

You could become a HEAT FAN and follow your hero to the Championships

You think I signed up here in 2010 to follow Goran Dragic?

Pretty much, i mean if everyone had your thoughts the Suns wouldn't have a fan base at all.

[SUN]

I don't get you....I just miss a player who was here for awhile. Why does that make me a bad fan? Can you please PM me the requirements to become a proper fan?

[Revived]

I don't get you....I just miss a player who was here for awhile. Why does that make me a bad fan? Can you please PM me the requirements to become a proper fan?

1) Worship every single player on the team

2) Never question any moves that the coaching staff or front office make. They are absolutely right every single time.

[Revived]

Good article on the whole Dragic situation

http://www.azcentral.com/story/sports/h ... /23610925/

[Flying Colors]

The thing that makes Goran stand out for me is the fact that he is among the very few, not only in this lineup but for years, who actually really cares about that logo on center court. I think he has said many times that he's been a Suns fan before coming to the NBA. Then he came back to the organization that traded him, came back being the second choise (after Gordon), and took only 7 mln when he could have taken 10 easily. Then struggled through all the mishaps of the organization in recent years without much complaints and gave his all.
I think that everyone who doesn't appreciate having a player like this on his team and is happy to see him gone just like that doesn't care about that logo as well.

Yes, it's amazing how many people worship McD and his every word. Dragic was a great player for the Suns. I'm glad he got to go to a situation he will be appreciated. Given the circumstances of the moves McD made, the trade was the right move, but the circumstances should have never gotten to that point.

I doubt you are reading this Goran, and hopefully not since so many douchebags talk ****, but if you are, good luck, and thanks for the fun watching you and good times, and coming back to the Suns after they traded you.

I think this was largely a no win situation for the FO, IT was always going to be insurence, in more ways than one. He was brought in because bledsoe's signing was taking too long and even if he had resigned there were still injury concerns. Dragic's best was when eric went down, and even then at his best he could only keep us around .500 ball during that period. A far cry from the record that we had with both of them. McD probably look at the situation, and thought "if bledsoe gets hurt again, Dragic would have to carry this load by himself, and would wear himself out before the playoffs even began, if we can even make the playoff." so he look at the market and the best player we can get, after all this LeBron postering, (who took like three weeks to finally tell us no) but at that point, IT was largely the only thing left. We should probably should have just traded Dragic during the summer, but McD couldn't do that with all the public backing goran had.

So yes McD probably had misstepped, but he was walking in a minefield. Maybe he did outsmart himself, but people make mistakes. That being said, he has done a lot for this franchise already. When you considered the state this team was when he inherited and damn near turned it around quickly. I do think he has a vision for this team, but hes been half stuck between two ideas because goran was here. Like i said before, Goran leaving was a band aid we needed to rip off, he is a great player but once the word 20 million was thrown around i think we are better off with out him. I would just be patient now, relax, see how his new moves turn out and let him work his game.

we gotta stay flexible

[DRK]

I'm honestly starting to lose my love for the Suns. Maybe it's because I became a fan during Nash's tenure here and I feel kind of lost in the shuffle. I have zero faith in our FO or Bledsoe/Knight....what a horrible trade. Dragic was a fantastic player, and we put him with three PG's who need the ball to be effective. It's madness.

Goodbye, Dragon. Tear **** up in the EC and win a damn 'chip.

You could become a HEAT FAN and follow your hero to the Championships

You think I signed up here in 2010 to follow Goran Dragic?

My BOY SUN is BACK!! What up my homie!

[sunstrooper]

[/quote] I think this was largely a no win situation for the FO, IT was always going to be insurence, in more ways than one. He was brought in because bledsoe's signing was taking too long and even if he had resigned there were still injury concerns. Dragic's best was when eric went down, and even then at his best he could only keep us around .500 ball during that period. A far cry from the record that we had with both of them. McD probably look at the situation, and thought "if bledsoe gets hurt again, Dragic would have to carry this load by himself, and would wear himself out before the playoffs even began, if we can even make the playoff." so he look at the market and the best player we can get, after all this LeBron postering, (who took like three weeks to finally tell us no) but at that point, IT was largely the only thing left. We should probably should have just traded Dragic during the summer, but McD couldn't do that with all the public backing goran had.

So yes McD probably had misstepped, but he was walking in a minefield. Maybe he did outsmart himself, but people make mistakes. That being said, he has done a lot for this franchise already. When you considered the state this team was when he inherited and damn near turned it around quickly. I do think he has a vision for this team, but hes been half stuck between two ideas because goran was here. Like i said before, Goran leaving was a band aid we needed to rip off, he is a great player but once the word 20 million was thrown around i think we are better off with out him. I would just be patient now, relax, see how his new moves turn out and let him work his game. [/quote]

I agree with you on the 20 mln. IMO 20 mln is way too much for any NBA player. I think, though, that if things were ok, nothing of this had happened and the team was doing ok, that Dragic would have taken less to accommodate acquiring a quality big. With him being unsatisfied and all if he decided to stay he would have demanded that 20 mln just to punish the FO. No question, with all the cards on the table trades were inevitable.
About McD - seems to me he leans too much on technical analysis which leads to stockpiling and "get the BPA" no matter the position and team's needs. I mean it's good tacts if you play FIFA, but in RL....my 2 cents. Besides, even remotely hoping TheClown would go to Phoenix was delusional imo and McD risked too much (and swayed the off-season moves) with no chance to win.

[Fo-Real]

Huge fan of Goran up till the end, where he allowed his agent and agents son to sling mud on this orginazation. Did also feel that of anyone on the team, he personified the Suns.... then his selfish and demanding ways came to light through back stories and his own bitch ass comments that he decided were best to be PUBLIC WITH, instead of handling fam matters in house between us. If it was his agent and demon spawn who convinced him to act and talk out of character. ... i still blame him for being a weak bitch... you dont get a pass under the guise "My agent made me do it". I think Bledso got too much money, liked Goran more.... that said, NO WAY IN HOT ASS HELL, would any of us have felt Goran should be making 20 million dollars this offseason. So in all, its kinda similar to when Fry, and Amare left for me.... Good luck, be well... YOU ARENT WORTH THE MONEY YOU ARE GONNA GET, but good job of getting someone to pay it to you... glad its not us and I have always liked Brandon knight. Was one of the main people who thought a sign and trade of Bled before we gave him all that money, for Knight and Henson would have been a good trade. Wanted to pair him with Dragic..... this obviously before Bled got PAID.... Mighty Mouse got signed, and our chemistry issues consumed all of our progress made the last couple years. Funny, wanted Bled gone and Goran paired with Knight and got the opposite. Oh well, still hope knight pans out..... GOOD LUCK G

[Ryu]

I agree with you on the 20 mln. IMO 20 mln is way too much for any NBA player. I think, though, that if things were ok, nothing of this had happened and the team was doing ok, that Dragic would have taken less to accommodate acquiring a quality big. With him being unsatisfied and all if he decided to stay he would have demanded that 20 mln just to punish the FO. No question, with all the cards on the table trades were inevitable.
About McD - seems to me he leans too much on technical analysis which leads to stockpiling and "get the BPA" no matter the position and team's needs. I mean it's good tacts if you play FIFA, but in RL....my 2 cents. Besides, even remotely hoping TheClown would go to Phoenix was delusional imo and McD risked too much (and swayed the off-season moves) with no chance to win.

You are kidding yourself if you think this was possible. Dragic is not a kind of guy Ginobili is (for example). He doesn`t want to sacrifice his stats for team success. He wants to be A MAN, even though he lacks in a leadership department. And he wants to be paid like Kobe.

[Flying Colors]

I agree with you on the 20 mln. IMO 20 mln is way too much for any NBA player. I think, though, that if things were ok, nothing of this had happened and the team was doing ok, that Dragic would have taken less to accommodate acquiring a quality big. With him being unsatisfied and all if he decided to stay he would have demanded that 20 mln just to punish the FO. No question, with all the cards on the table trades were inevitable.
About McD - seems to me he leans too much on technical analysis which leads to stockpiling and "get the BPA" no matter the position and team's needs. I mean it's good tacts if you play FIFA, but in RL....my 2 cents. Besides, even remotely hoping TheClown would go to Phoenix was delusional imo and McD risked too much (and swayed the off-season moves) with no chance to win.

I remenber a knock on blanks was that he would never do things like traft BPA and instead draft for need, which resulted in things like drafting kendall marshall way too eary.

The lebron thing is understandable really. If the best player in the world is listening to you pitches, then you would be a bad gm if your didn't try to secure them. Suns were in right up in there until the penultimate day he made lebron made his choice, in a list that went smaller and smaller. it just shouldn't have taken THREE WEEKS, really Rich Paul was the one who screwed us.

[letsgosuns]

I do not care that Dragic is gone. I never liked his game. He is a selfish point guard that does not like to pass. The best games of his career are games that he scored a lot of points, not games he had a lost of assists. He lacks the main trait you need in a point guard which is the ability to create easy shots for other teammates. He does not make players around him better. It was not a coincidence that Gortat played so much better with Steve Nash and then had a scoring drop off when Dragic became the point guard. I would cringe every time Dragic would look for his own shot, not be able to get a shot off, and then would finally look to pass just to bail himself out because he could not get his shot off. Wow I am seriously not going to miss him even 0.000000000001%. I am not the biggest Bledsoe fan either. I just despise how Dragic played. There were so many times he refused to pass the ball. All he cares about is scoring. He played hard and had a lot of heart, but so did Allen Iverson. And I hated Iverson's game. And Iverson was 1000x the player Dragic is. One good year in seven years. I guess that is all it takes now for some team out there to pay a player 20+ million dollars a year. And people think Bledsoe is overpaid at 13 million a year. What a joke. Complete insanity. I cannot believe Dragic is going to get a max contract this offseason.

[sunstrooper]

Maybe we live in parallel unverses...Dragic was the only one able to create for teammates with "pass first" mentality and only lately reverted to being more selfish when things obviously didn't work. I hope you enjoyed the PG play of Bled last night. Me and wife just watched a replay and she was like "this is our best player now?!?! All he does is reach 1m before the 3pt line, get rid of the ball and disappear...". I guess it was that obvious.

[SUN]

Maybe we live in parallel unverses...Dragic was the only one able to create for teammates with "pass first" mentality and only lately reverted to being more selfish when things obviously didn't work. I hope you enjoyed the PG play of Bled last night. Me and wife just watched a replay and she was like "this is our best player now?!?! All he does is reach 1m before the 3pt line, get rid of the ball and disappear...". I guess it was that obvious.

Bledsoe is hard to watch. I'd have to say he's my least favorite star player we've ever had. I use the term star very lightly.

[mixerball]

im looking at it like this... atleast he told FO that he was not going to resign and they could get something back.

he was not gonna resign cause they diminished his role, but the tipping point was trade talk(cause they were affraid he wasnt gonna resign). i really thought that we were gonna watch him in orange till his retirement. so i couldnt understand why they were including him in trade talks. the whole deadline deal was ugly, but hey. McD said it all by calling markieff and bled better players. just shows how much he was appreciated.

as a slovenian im leaving you guys also. i fell in love with the suns and all the players. im still gonna look for your scores and how the western opponents for the 8th are doing.
I also like a lot of you guys here but the trade has been done so im off to the eastern conference. hell, all these years i hated miami, what can i say. atleast he didnt go to sh***y LA or NY.