Why do Suns players who leave PHX struggle so much elsewhere

[Revived]

with Frye, he actualy sucked every other place he was in til he came to PHX.

He wouldn't be anything if it wasn't for the Suns.

He sucked before PHX and he sucks after PHX.

[DRK]

Having Elfrid Payton and whoever else runs PG for Orlando (Oladipo?) must be a major factor.

Theres a difference between getting passes from Payton and Oladipo than getting passes from Dragic and Bledsoe.

[3rdside]

You could phrase it the other way and ask why is it that 2 former suns players - Marion and Diaw - both won titles after they left, and Steve Kerr - a former Phoenix FO guy - looks like he'll win one as well?

[3rdside]

You could phrase it the other way and ask why is it that 2 former suns players - Marion and Diaw - both won titles after they left, and Steve Kerr - a former Phoenix FO guy - looks like he'll win one as well?

[Revived]

Having Elfrid Payton and whoever else runs PG for Orlando (Oladipo?) must be a major factor.

Theres a difference between getting passes from Payton and Oladipo than getting passes from Dragic and Bledsoe.

None of the 4 you mentioned are good passers.

Regardless, most Magic fans don't hate his offense as much as they do his defense, they want him gone because of the enormous liability that he is defensively.

[puma31]

2 words. STEVE NASH. He made everyone better. A player like him comes along once in a generation. So underappreciated.

[og15]

2 words. STEVE NASH. He made everyone better. A player like him comes along once in a generation. So underappreciated.

Nash is a great PG and a great asset to a team, but he still can't make a bad shooter a good shooter or a bad finisher a good finisher. Ekpe Udoh won't dominate inside because he landed on a team with Nash at PG and Andre Roberson won't become a lights out shooter in the same manner.

Dudley was injured, he's fine now that he is healthy again with the Bucks

Having Elfrid Payton and whoever else runs PG for Orlando (Oladipo?) must be a major factor.

Theres a difference between getting passes from Payton and Oladipo than getting passes from Dragic and Bledsoe.

None of the 4 you mentioned are good passers.

Regardless, most Magic fans don't hate his offense as much as they do his defense, they want him gone because of the enormous liability that he is defensively.

At 39.3% 3PT, Frye's 3PT% is actually higher this season than last and his TS% is at .545. His FG% is low because a higher percentage of his FGA this season are three's, about 73% compared to about 55% last season, and he's somehow shooting 40% inside 3 feet.

He's basically only shooting three's in Orlando, rebounding is down on offense, he's doing nothing inside the arc, defense has never been a strong suit anyways.

[Revived]

Will Dragic join this list? Lol.

[Orens]

Will Dragic join this list? Lol.

Hopefully.

[kennydorglas]

Will Dragic join this list? Lol.

Depends.
I dont think he's a 5/108M player... but Spoelstra is too good to make him fail.

[phrazbit]

Will Dragic join this list? Lol.

Depends.
I dont think he's a 5/108M player... but Spoelstra is too good to make him fail.

Coach Spo sucks.

23-30 in the East with that roster... a bad coach that for years was propped up by the best team in the NBA, a team which underachieved by any standard given the talent they had. Now, despite still having TWO all-star caliber players AND a huge stroke of luck in Whiteside's emergence, Spo has them clinging to the last playoff spot in a terrible conference. He is awful.

[kennydorglas]

Will Dragic join this list? Lol.

Depends.
I dont think he's a 5/108M player... but Spoelstra is too good to make him fail.

Coach Spo sucks.

23-30 in the East with that roster... a bad coach that for years was propped up by the best team in the NBA, a team which underachieved by any standard given the talent they had. Now, despite still having TWO all-star caliber players AND a huge stroke of luck in Whiteside's emergence, Spo has them clinging to the last playoff spot in a terrible conference. He is awful.

Ok, then.
Just keep in mind that Spoelstra is the one who keep giving Whiteside a chance to prove himself (like 3 or 4 tryouts)