Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space

[AtheJ415]

We should consider getting a rookie max player if theres one out there that would fit this team. even if its like 3 million overpay, because theres a chance that a max contract will never be this "cheap" ever again

This. And the rookie max isn't as high as most think to begin with. Harris, Leonard, and Butler are all easy guys for us to max. Green isn't though.

[Barkley6]

Tristan Thompson-He's having a solid year this year, (9ppg 8rpg and shooting 53%), he's still very young at 23. Also, with Love and LeBron both likely opting out and looking for new deals, Thompson might be available at a solid price. I'd rather pay Thompson 8-10m/season than Monroe the max.

Thompson rejected 4-year 52 mil deal from Cavs. And his agent is our old friend Rich Paul.

Think he might regret that decision. Markieff Morris' contract is going to set his market in the offseason. Just like the Kyle Lowry contract was the starting point for Tier 2 PGs, Morris will set the bar for tier 2 PFs. He might get more than Markieff based on the fact he's younger and a better rebounder, but not much. I think the most he'll get is 11m/per, especially because I think a lot of teams are going to be trying to keep costs low before the salary cap jumps up.

[Barkley6]

I wouldn't max out 1 player. Dont think it makes sense for where we are. If we were one piece away, then sure, why not? But we need more than just 1 guy to make this team a legit competitor in the West.

Some guys I'd go after, in order of priority:
Tristan Thompson-He's having a solid year this year, (9ppg 8rpg and shooting 53%), he's still very young at 23. Also, with Love and LeBron both likely opting out and looking for new deals, Thompson might be available at a solid price. I'd rather pay Thompson 8-10m/season than Monroe the max.

Khris Middleton- Bucks would likely match as he's a RFA, but he's a 6'7'' SG who is shooting 40.8% from 3 for his career. Bucks are paying OJ Mayo $8m next year, and they don't have a ton of cap space, an early offer sheet would handcuff them in FA if they matched. Worth considering.

Wesley Matthews- Not sure if he's a max guy, though he'll be asking for it. The one place this FA class is deep is on the wings, so that might drive down price a bit. If you can get him without overpaying, dude straight fills it up from 3. Is 28, but doesn't take a lot of contact (Only averages 3 FTA/game for his career) and hasn't had any major injuries.

Jeremy Lin- I'm not even joking here. He'd be a great 3rd Pg. Fits in with our youth movement at 26. His numbers aren't SO good that he warrants starters minutes (10ppg, 4apg), so not as much worry about an IT like situation, but he'd be a different look off the bench and bring a little BBIQ.

Henry Sims- Cheap(ish) backup big man. Still young at 24, so room to grow, but a decent contributor the last 2 seasons for Philly.

Derrick Williams- I think he just needs to find the right situation and hasn't done that yet. Also needs to mature a little bit. Still is only 23 and has definitely shown flashes. Could be a bargain that could really pay off if he ends up being a little bit of a late bloomer.

Danny Green- With Duncan, Ginobili and Kahwi all up for new contracts, I think Danny Green is the guy left out. Excellent 3pt shooter, obviously knows how to play team D, and moves the ball well for a 2 guard (averaging 3.3 APG for his career).

I'm fine with everyone except Thompson and Lin. Thompson already rejected a $12 million a year deal. He's not even a starter and he wants a max, and given his agent, who negotiates by demanding max or rejecting all other offers, I wouldn't eve want to deal with him.

Lin is not what we need. We can a PG or have Archie get those minutes, which we can now d thanks to Bullock.

Archie isn't a PG. He's a 2. What he does well is minimized playing at the 1.

[Barkley6]

Tristan Thompson-He's having a solid year this year, (9ppg 8rpg and shooting 53%), he's still very young at 23. Also, with Love and LeBron both likely opting out and looking for new deals, Thompson might be available at a solid price. I'd rather pay Thompson 8-10m/season than Monroe the max.

Thompson rejected 4-year 52 mil deal from Cavs. And his agent is our old friend Rich Paul.

Think he might regret that decision. Markieff Morris' contract is going to set his market in the offseason. Just like the Kyle Lowry contract was the starting point for Tier 2 PGs, Morris will set the bar for tier 2 PFs. He might get more than Markieff based on the fact he's younger and a better rebounder, but not much. I think the most he'll get is 11m/per, especially because I think a lot of teams are going to be trying to keep costs low before the salary cap jumps up.

I could also see Thompson not willing to commit his long term future to a team that is very up in the air. What if Love and LeBron both leave and the team drifts down to the 8-10 spot in the East?

[Damkac]

How about Goran Dragic?

[thamadkant]

Tobias Harris max'd will not be matched by Magic... but you will be hoping that he fits in well. I don't think you can maximize him with the Morris twins though.

[TeamTragic]

I'd take a loooong hard look at Monroe. He'll definatley is getting the max, and I'm not sure he deserves that, but if he is signed to the old-CBA max, he might be worth it in the new-CBA cap, if you get my drift...
This also depends on how we looking till the end of year (if we can rebuild chemistry, and our young guys show some improvement/promise), and of course how Monroe does till the end of year.
I just hope McD is doing his homework a lot better than in the previous offseason...

I wouldn't mind Harris, and I'd stay away from Draymond, I think he is a product of that system, and will struggle elsewhere, once defenses have time and possibility to cover him a bit than now in GS, where every opponent is just chasing the Splash bros around.

The rest of the names are not too realistic, nor too exciting for me.

Green and Monroe would be my thought process. I'm not sold on Harris though I haven't seen him play much. Detroit won't offer near max for Monroe?

[DesertDreams]

We're going to find a way to get Okafor in the draft and sign either Harris or Butler and suit:

Center: Len
PF: Okafor
SF: Tobias Harris Or Jimmy Butler
SG: Bledsoe
PG: Knight

How's that for optimism after all we been through, lol.

But seriously, for the right price I woudn't mind Harris or Butler, both young, long and fill the wing.

[bigfoot]

So some questions ... see if you agree

1) Does Chicago match a max on Butler? I would say yes.

2) Does Portland match a max on Mathews? They have to pay Aldridge, Lopez, and Mathews. Plus Lillard in two years. This one is questionable. I would say no.

3) Does GSW match a max on Draymond Green? That would put them close to $95M. Way over the cap and the will need to pay Curry max in two years. I would say no.

4) Milsap too old and is gonna get paid by the Hawks. They have plenty of space.

5) Cavs with Thompson ... james/Love/Irving signed to huge deals already. I would say they won't match.

6) Monroe ... Detroit. He's available as a UFA. Detroit has lots of space but doesn't hold his Bird rights. Not sure if he wants to play in MoTown. This one is a maybe.

7) D'Andre Jordan ... He'll get paid by a deep pocketed guy from Microsoft.

8) Leonard ... Spurs have tons of room. They will match any offer.

Looks like Mathews/Green/Thompson/Monroe are all possibilies. Missing anyone?

[In Len We Trust]

So some questions ... see if you agree

1) Does Chicago match a max on Butler? I would say yes.

2) Does Portland match a max on Mathews? They have to pay Aldridge, Lopez, and Mathews. Plus Lillard in two years. This one is questionable. I would say no.

3) Does GSW match a max on Draymond Green? That would put them close to $95M. Way over the cap and the will need to pay Curry max in two years. I would say no.

4) Milsap too old and is gonna get paid by the Hawks. They have plenty of space.

5) Cavs with Thompson ... james/Love/Irving signed to huge deals already. I would say they won't match.

6) Monroe ... Detroit. He's available as a UFA. Detroit has lots of space but doesn't hold his Bird rights. Not sure if he wants to play in MoTown. This one is a maybe.

7) D'Andre Jordan ... He'll get paid by a deep pocketed guy from Microsoft.

8) Leonard ... Spurs have tons of room. They will match any offer.

Looks like Mathews/Green/Thompson/Monroe are all possibilies. Missing anyone?

Just curious, why didn't you mention Tobias Harris?

[RaisingArizona]

How about Goran Dragic?

This isn't singles tennis.

[jcsunsfan]

I think the Bledsoe, Knight, Archie backcourt has some real potential. Knight adds the shooting. Len is fine as the future starter at C.

We need a starter upgrade at the pf/sf positions. Yes. The problem is that Kieff is playing too well to come off the bench, but not consistent enought to be our long term answer at pf. I think he has to be traded at some point. Marcus does too, then.

PJ will play wherever. We need to improve the starting SF position. We need a versatile player with both offense and D like Grand Hill was. If Warren can do that, fine. But otherwise we need to draft or sign one.

Best rebounder in free agency. DeAndre Jordan. Can he start at the 4 or is he a center? Take a run a Kevin Love, take a run at Alderidge. Greg Monroe? Good scorer, passer, rebounder. Bad defender. If you sign him, you better trade Kieff.

At SF all the players we would want are restricted.

[bigfoot]

So some questions ... see if you agree

1) Does Chicago match a max on Butler? I would say yes.

2) Does Portland match a max on Mathews? They have to pay Aldridge, Lopez, and Mathews. Plus Lillard in two years. This one is questionable. I would say no.

3) Does GSW match a max on Draymond Green? That would put them close to $95M. Way over the cap and the will need to pay Curry max in two years. I would say no.

4) Milsap too old and is gonna get paid by the Hawks. They have plenty of space.

5) Cavs with Thompson ... james/Love/Irving signed to huge deals already. I would say they won't match.

6) Monroe ... Detroit. He's available as a UFA. Detroit has lots of space but doesn't hold his Bird rights. Not sure if he wants to play in MoTown. This one is a maybe.

7) D'Andre Jordan ... He'll get paid by a deep pocketed guy from Microsoft.

8) Leonard ... Spurs have tons of room. They will match any offer.

Looks like Mathews/Green/Thompson/Monroe are all possibilies. Missing anyone?

Just curious, why didn't you mention Tobias Harris?

Missed him

9) Tobias Harris ... Orlando has lots of space. They will probably match.

[AtheJ415]

I wouldn't max out 1 player. Dont think it makes sense for where we are. If we were one piece away, then sure, why not? But we need more than just 1 guy to make this team a legit competitor in the West.

Some guys I'd go after, in order of priority:
Tristan Thompson-He's having a solid year this year, (9ppg 8rpg and shooting 53%), he's still very young at 23. Also, with Love and LeBron both likely opting out and looking for new deals, Thompson might be available at a solid price. I'd rather pay Thompson 8-10m/season than Monroe the max.

Khris Middleton- Bucks would likely match as he's a RFA, but he's a 6'7'' SG who is shooting 40.8% from 3 for his career. Bucks are paying OJ Mayo $8m next year, and they don't have a ton of cap space, an early offer sheet would handcuff them in FA if they matched. Worth considering.

Wesley Matthews- Not sure if he's a max guy, though he'll be asking for it. The one place this FA class is deep is on the wings, so that might drive down price a bit. If you can get him without overpaying, dude straight fills it up from 3. Is 28, but doesn't take a lot of contact (Only averages 3 FTA/game for his career) and hasn't had any major injuries.

Jeremy Lin- I'm not even joking here. He'd be a great 3rd Pg. Fits in with our youth movement at 26. His numbers aren't SO good that he warrants starters minutes (10ppg, 4apg), so not as much worry about an IT like situation, but he'd be a different look off the bench and bring a little BBIQ.

Henry Sims- Cheap(ish) backup big man. Still young at 24, so room to grow, but a decent contributor the last 2 seasons for Philly.

Derrick Williams- I think he just needs to find the right situation and hasn't done that yet. Also needs to mature a little bit. Still is only 23 and has definitely shown flashes. Could be a bargain that could really pay off if he ends up being a little bit of a late bloomer.

Danny Green- With Duncan, Ginobili and Kahwi all up for new contracts, I think Danny Green is the guy left out. Excellent 3pt shooter, obviously knows how to play team D, and moves the ball well for a 2 guard (averaging 3.3 APG for his career).

I'm fine with everyone except Thompson and Lin. Thompson already rejected a $12 million a year deal. He's not even a starter and he wants a max, and given his agent, who negotiates by demanding max or rejecting all other offers, I wouldn't eve want to deal with him.

Lin is not what we need. We can a PG or have Archie get those minutes, which we can now d thanks to Bullock.

Archie isn't a PG. He's a 2. What he does well is minimized playing at the 1.

We can always draft someone or sign someone else to fill the 3rd PG spot. Paying Lin just isn't the answer. His defense is just awful, his celebrity causes issues, and for all we know he'd want to start because he has in the past.

[AtheJ415]

Does anyone know if we're allowed to bring over Bogdan a year early? With all the turnover recently, I think he could be used on next year's team.

[Revived]

I wouldn't max out 1 player. Dont think it makes sense for where we are. If we were one piece away, then sure, why not? But we need more than just 1 guy to make this team a legit competitor in the West.

Some guys I'd go after, in order of priority:
Tristan Thompson-He's having a solid year this year, (9ppg 8rpg and shooting 53%), he's still very young at 23. Also, with Love and LeBron both likely opting out and looking for new deals, Thompson might be available at a solid price. I'd rather pay Thompson 8-10m/season than Monroe the max.

Khris Middleton- Bucks would likely match as he's a RFA, but he's a 6'7'' SG who is shooting 40.8% from 3 for his career. Bucks are paying OJ Mayo $8m next year, and they don't have a ton of cap space, an early offer sheet would handcuff them in FA if they matched. Worth considering.

Wesley Matthews- Not sure if he's a max guy, though he'll be asking for it. The one place this FA class is deep is on the wings, so that might drive down price a bit. If you can get him without overpaying, dude straight fills it up from 3. Is 28, but doesn't take a lot of contact (Only averages 3 FTA/game for his career) and hasn't had any major injuries.

Jeremy Lin- I'm not even joking here. He'd be a great 3rd Pg. Fits in with our youth movement at 26. His numbers aren't SO good that he warrants starters minutes (10ppg, 4apg), so not as much worry about an IT like situation, but he'd be a different look off the bench and bring a little BBIQ.

Henry Sims- Cheap(ish) backup big man. Still young at 24, so room to grow, but a decent contributor the last 2 seasons for Philly.

Derrick Williams- I think he just needs to find the right situation and hasn't done that yet. Also needs to mature a little bit. Still is only 23 and has definitely shown flashes. Could be a bargain that could really pay off if he ends up being a little bit of a late bloomer.

Danny Green- With Duncan, Ginobili and Kahwi all up for new contracts, I think Danny Green is the guy left out. Excellent 3pt shooter, obviously knows how to play team D, and moves the ball well for a 2 guard (averaging 3.3 APG for his career).

I'm fine with everyone except Thompson and Lin. Thompson already rejected a $12 million a year deal. He's not even a starter and he wants a max, and given his agent, who negotiates by demanding max or rejecting all other offers, I wouldn't eve want to deal with him.

Lin is not what we need. We can a PG or have Archie get those minutes, which we can now d thanks to Bullock.

Archie isn't a PG. He's a 2. What he does well is minimized playing at the 1.

I really hope this is realized soon. One of the main reasons that Goodwin sucked at Kentucky was because Caliparri tried to turn him into a PG.

Goodwin himself said that he isn't a PG, his instincts are those seen in a SG.

[Frank Lee]

........ Missing anyone?

Larry Sanders

[Young gun 6]

Didn't realise Matthews was 28. Probably lowers my preference to sign him. Leonard won't leave, don't want to max Green. I feel Butler is basically a pipe dream but I would LOVE him. Would love Monroe but feel he is going to go to Lakers.

Who else are chances that we could realistically get ? I don't see any above average players we could likely sign over teams like the Lakers and the Knicks etc etc

[RunDogGun]

So some questions ... see if you agree

1) Does Chicago match a max on Butler? I would say yes.

2) Does Portland match a max on Mathews? They have to pay Aldridge, Lopez, and Mathews. Plus Lillard in two years. This one is questionable. I would say no.

3) Does GSW match a max on Draymond Green? That would put them close to $95M. Way over the cap and the will need to pay Curry max in two years. I would say no.

4) Milsap too old and is gonna get paid by the Hawks. They have plenty of space.

5) Cavs with Thompson ... james/Love/Irving signed to huge deals already. I would say they won't match.

6) Monroe ... Detroit. He's available as a UFA. Detroit has lots of space but doesn't hold his Bird rights. Not sure if he wants to play in MoTown. This one is a maybe.

7) D'Andre Jordan ... He'll get paid by a deep pocketed guy from Microsoft.

8) Leonard ... Spurs have tons of room. They will match any offer.

Looks like Mathews/Green/Thompson/Monroe are all possibilies. Missing anyone?

Detroit does have Monroe's bird rights. The only way they would have lost bird rights for Monroe, is if they traded him, then no team would have them. But they didn't, so it would be the only thing that would give them any leverage. They could sign and trade him (4 yrs max), or offer him the only thing no other team can, a fifth year.

[RunDogGun]

Does anyone know if we're allowed to bring over Bogdan a year early? With all the turnover recently, I think he could be used on next year's team.

It depends on what contract he signed in Europe,and how much of a buyout he has.