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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#41 » by Flying Colors » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:13 am

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AtheJ415 wrote:Does anyone know if we're allowed to bring over Bogdan a year early? With all the turnover recently, I think he could be used on next year's team.

It depends on what contract he signed in Europe,and how much of a buyout he has.

i think he signed a four year contract with his team with the option to buy out after his 2nd year. so i wouldn't expect the guy until 2017 at the latest
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Post#42 » by Young gun 6 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:45 am

Not sure with bogdan if we even need/want him now. He is a 2 isn't he ? Maybe for when green retires to see out of him and bullock plays behind knight / Goodwin in the future ha
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Post#43 » by Flying Colors » Sun Feb 22, 2015 9:49 am

well a lot could happen in that time, we'll see how it goes
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Post#44 » by Frank Lee » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:41 am

Sanders fits the bill. Problems be damned. Its not like legal issues have mattered so far to this FO. And Larry isn't being charged with anything.

Renew his career here and he is fits the bill for what we need.

Remember, we easily can be viewed as a pariah in free agency.
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Post#45 » by Bogyo » Sun Feb 22, 2015 11:59 am

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Bogyo wrote:I'd take a loooong hard look at Monroe. He'll definatley is getting the max, and I'm not sure he deserves that, but if he is signed to the old-CBA max, he might be worth it in the new-CBA cap, if you get my drift...
This also depends on how we looking till the end of year (if we can rebuild chemistry, and our young guys show some improvement/promise), and of course how Monroe does till the end of year.
I just hope McD is doing his homework a lot better than in the previous offseason...

I wouldn't mind Harris, and I'd stay away from Draymond, I think he is a product of that system, and will struggle elsewhere, once defenses have time and possibility to cover him a bit than now in GS, where every opponent is just chasing the Splash bros around.

The rest of the names are not too realistic, nor too exciting for me.


Green and Monroe would be my thought process. I'm not sold on Harris though I haven't seen him play much. Detroit won't offer near max for Monroe?


I think they didn't offer the max last summer, so not likely, unless their new GM is enamored with him, and/or they re-thought everything with the Josh Smith release and the new cap after the mega TV deals. I'd say 50-50%. But if Len becomes a good defensive C, which is likely, then Moose would be a solid upgrade in inside scoring/rebounding over Keef. (I'm only wondering how he would handle coming off the bench...)
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#46 » by bigfoot » Sun Feb 22, 2015 2:59 pm

Frank Lee wrote:Sanders fits the bill. Problems be damned. Its not like legal issues have mattered so far to this FO. And Larry isn't being charged with anything.

Renew his career here and he is fits the bill for what we need.

Remember, we easily can be viewed as a pariah in free agency.


Larry has been suspended twice for drugs (Pot). Next time it is 25 games and the fourth a 2-year ban. My guess is he's got a lot of dough in the bank even after the Bucks buyout. Although I agree he fits the bill in terms of a backup center with size and weight.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#47 » by Kjdills13 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 3:16 pm

d.jordan, 4 years 52 million!

Then trade

Morris, Morris, 1st to cleavland for k.love. If he doesn't want to resign there and max k.love out 5 years 100 mill roughly.

Resign b knight 4 years 48 million


B knight/ draft pick or fa
Bledsoe/ Goodwin
Tucker/warren
Love/ draft pick or fa
Jordan/Len
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Post#48 » by MathiasPW » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:39 pm

weak SF rotation. We need the upgrade at the 3 much more than at PF or C.
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Post#49 » by MathiasPW » Sun Feb 22, 2015 4:40 pm

If we go for Love, Kieff will be traded. Both have similar styles: offense, spacing, bad to ok defense.
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Post#50 » by Kerrsed » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:35 pm

I would go after Butler or Green. For my rebuild, this is what i would try to accomplish:

1. Sign T-Rob & Sanders before the season ends.

2. Sign Butler or Green to a max deal.

3. Re-sign and trade Knight/Len/Warren/Suns 2016 1st/Miami 2016 1st to the Kings for Cousins. Knight would be a perfect young PG for them to rebuild their franchise in the Karl Era. Len also gives them a very young big thats bursting with potential.

4. Re-sign Wright/Goodwin

Bledsoe/Goodwin
Butler/Bullock/ROOKIE
Tucker/Morris/Granger
Morris/Wright/Robinson
Cousins/Sanders/Wright
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Post#51 » by sunsfever68 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:54 pm

I'm just saying how hilarious would it be if we resigned Knight and then somehow we signed Dragic LOL


We 3 point guard dilemma all over again

Honestly tho unless Bledsoe improves alot as a floor leader, we really might have to think about trading him and maxing his value I just don't like how he plays compared to his contract. Now if he were on a 8M a year deal that's one thing but he's at 13-15M a year it's different
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Post#52 » by sunsfever68 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:56 pm

Kerrsed wrote:I would go after Butler or Green. For my rebuild, this is what i would try to accomplish:

1. Sign T-Rob & Sanders before the season ends.

2. Sign Butler or Green to a max deal.

3. Re-sign and trade Knight/Len/Warren/Suns 2016 1st/Miami 2016 1st to the Kings for Cousins. Knight would be a perfect young PG for them to rebuild their franchise in the Karl Era. Len also gives them a very young big thats bursting with potential.

4. Re-sign Wright/Goodwin

Bledsoe/Goodwin
Butler/Bullock/ROOKIE
Tucker/Morris/Granger
Morris/Wright/Robinson
Cousins/Sanders/Wright



larry Sanders doesn't love the game anymore so I say no to him unless he has a change of heart and mind. Talent is there tho

If Sac does that I am tempted to do that deal. although I would really like to see how knight plays bc I'm not sold on Bledsoe as the PG of the future bc he doesn't pass it all that well and he doesn't shoot it all that well either.
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Re: Official Free Agent Thread: What to do with our cap space 

Post#53 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 5:59 pm

Move Len to PF and get Monroe in a sign and trade for Bledsoe

Knight
Goodwin
Warren
Len
Monroe

give them 3 years!
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Post#54 » by sunsfever68 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:01 pm

If we sign Monroe to a deal here we need a defensive center like Len who can clean up the mistakes around the rim block shots bc from what I understand Monroe doesn't defend that well.
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Post#55 » by sunsfever68 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:03 pm

JMac1 wrote:Move Len to PF and get Monroe in a sign and trade for Bledsoe

Knight
Goodwin
Warren
Len
Monroe

give them 3 years!



they have Brandon Jennings why do they need Bledsoe?

I understand the S&T so they get value back for Monroe just curious. I think him and Len together would be great and I agree a penetrating guard who can't shoot well from the outside like Bledsoe doesn't work well at all with monroe
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Post#56 » by Kerrsed » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:10 pm

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JMac1 wrote:Move Len to PF and get Monroe in a sign and trade for Bledsoe

Knight
Goodwin
Warren
Len
Monroe

give them 3 years!



they have Brandon Jennings why do they need Bledsoe?

I understand the S&T so they get value back for Monroe just curious. I think him and Len together would be great and I agree a penetrating guard who can't shoot well from the outside like Bledsoe doesn't work well at all with monroe


Jennings isnt their long term PG of the future anymore. But still, they dont need Bledsoe as they just traded for Reggie Jackson!

Why are we all of a sudden talking about trading Bledsoe? If anyone goes its Knight. He was obtained to be used as an asset.
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Post#57 » by ImNotMcDiSwear » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:19 pm

I say be patient, PASS on everything. Once Knight's re-signed, we'll be in great position the following offseason, when none of our core players will be up for an extension. 2016's our target year, IMO. In 2017, Alex and Archie will be up. Following year, TJ.
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Post#58 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:21 pm

sunsfever68 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:Move Len to PF and get Monroe in a sign and trade for Bledsoe

Knight
Goodwin
Warren
Len
Monroe

give them 3 years!



they have Brandon Jennings why do they need Bledsoe?

I understand the S&T so they get value back for Monroe just curious. I think him and Len together would be great and I agree a penetrating guard who can't shoot well from the outside like Bledsoe doesn't work well at all with monroe


My bad...

On the draft board someone brought up Jordan.

I think we need a big to go along with Len. If Archie continues to grow (dude is still 19!!!) he could be SUPER dynamic with Len. I think that is the way we get competitive, with our guys like GS did, then pick up a supporting cast. I'm not feeling Bledsoe right now.
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Post#59 » by WeekapaugGroove » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:23 pm

Sanders from a pure basketball perspective would be a great fit. But dude has some serious mental issues, it's not just the weed smoking he simply can't control his emotions. If he gets his life turned around he's worth a look but he might never play agian.

Pairing him with the Morris bros would guarantee we lead the league in technicals next year lol

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Post#60 » by JMac1 » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:24 pm

Kerrsed wrote:
sunsfever68 wrote:
JMac1 wrote:Move Len to PF and get Monroe in a sign and trade for Bledsoe

Knight
Goodwin
Warren
Len
Monroe

give them 3 years!



they have Brandon Jennings why do they need Bledsoe?

I understand the S&T so they get value back for Monroe just curious. I think him and Len together would be great and I agree a penetrating guard who can't shoot well from the outside like Bledsoe doesn't work well at all with monroe


Jennings isnt their long term PG of the future anymore. But still, they dont need Bledsoe as they just traded for Reggie Jackson!

Why are we all of a sudden talking about trading Bledsoe?
If anyone goes its Knight. He was obtained to be used as an asset.


I just don't see him being a 15 million dollar player. And yes, for the past two games, I like Knight more than Eric......especially Archie. If Bledsoe doesn't step up soon, Archie just might make him expendable.

Hell, Bledsoe is more reckless with the ball than Archie.

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