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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#121 » by InFlames » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:12 pm

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What those two scouting reports basically say, is that Porzingis is a better shooting Jan Vesely. Both are "extremely athletic" for Euros and long. Both excel in transition. Both can guard multiple positions. Both excel on cuts to the basket Both aren't big enough physically to bang in the NBA. All of this..."allegedly" of course.

Yeah, they're pretty similar. Aside from the difference in shooting, these two scouting reports say the same thing...but worded differently.


Hey man I agree, if you take away the two biggest differences (shooting and ball-handling) they are pretty similar! Almost verbatim like you said.




And based on the 3 point shooting numbers, the shooting really isn't a huge difference. Vesely shot 46 percent in one league from 3 point range, per your stats.


You know there is more to shooting then just being able to hit an open 3 every now and then right? This is what is said about Kristap's shooting. "He’s a solid shooter, with range also from three point, showing a remarkable confidence and variety of solutions: step-back, pull-up jumper, catch and shoot are all part of his repertoire." Nowhere is anything said even remotely similar about Vesely's offense. Vesely has taken exactly 1 3 pt shot this season in euroleague and has missed it, he is also shooting 39% FT.

Aaron Gordon is shooting 47% from 3. Would you say this means that AG is some skilled shooter able to score in a variety of ways including step backs, pull ups and catch and shoot? Of course you wouldn't.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#122 » by Truth24 » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:34 pm

Nobody ever clamored over Vesely's shooting, that is the one thing a lot of people just love about Kristaps is his ability to shoot and to shoot consistently. Jan didn't have a post game, but guess who does have a post game that would be Kristaps, the only reason why people like to talk about Kristaps athleticism is because he is 7'1 and can move well. I really do see a poor mans dirk in him in a similar mold of what Montiejunas is.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#123 » by AshBlackstone » Thu Feb 19, 2015 7:42 pm

This guy's NBA comparison in that scouting report was John Salley. Uh...that's not the next Dirk. Nor is that an awesome shooter. Nor is that someone you take with the 5th pick.

For a guy that none of us have actually seen play, I think I'll pass.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#124 » by Skin » Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:28 pm

AshBlackstone wrote:This guy's NBA comparison in that scouting report was John Salley. Uh...that's not the next Dirk. Nor is that an awesome shooter. Nor is that someone you take with the 5th pick.

For a guy that none of us have actually seen play, I think I'll pass.

This explains a lot. Maybe you should watch him before you attempt another lazy critique.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#125 » by pogiro » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:09 am

AshBlackstone wrote:This guy's NBA comparison in that scouting report was John Salley. Uh...that's not the next Dirk. Nor is that an awesome shooter. Nor is that someone you take with the 5th pick.

For a guy that none of us have actually seen play, I think I'll pass.


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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#126 » by Skin » Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:38 am

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AshBlackstone wrote:This guy's NBA comparison in that scouting report was John Salley. Uh...that's not the next Dirk. Nor is that an awesome shooter. Nor is that someone you take with the 5th pick.

For a guy that none of us have actually seen play, I think I'll pass.


http://www.nbadraft.net/players/deshawn-stevenson

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The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#127 » by Blue_and_Whte » Fri Feb 20, 2015 1:04 am

Thelead made look at Russell a little more an now skin has me thinking about this kid. Not on board yet but I like him now that I've done the research. He's more versatile than Vesely that's for true.


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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#128 » by Skin » Fri Feb 20, 2015 8:12 am

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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#129 » by gumbyr24 » Fri Feb 20, 2015 7:52 pm

Assuming the top 4 prospects are gone.. Okafor, Towns, Mudiay, Russell
and were picking 5th or 6th, i'm not sure who i'd rather have between Porzingiz or Turner.
I'd be happy with either, but I can't tell who has the highest ceiling.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#130 » by Skin » Sat Feb 21, 2015 6:11 am

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC_vc7uLVpM[/youtube]

Just saw this. Only 654 views so I don't think many have seen this one. Had some pluses and minuses but I thought it showed more truth than traditional highlight clips that only show good.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#131 » by Truth24 » Sat Feb 21, 2015 7:30 am

Really good video and it's really hard not to like this kid because he definitely has a skill set that would help our team out. I just love how mobile he is, up and down the court at a crazy pace for a guy his size. Has a great form on his three point shot and might love it a little to much, but he hits it at a really good clip and not a lot of people can disrupt a 7'1 shooter. The downside is you can see he is a little weak in the post getting a couple ticky tak fouls because of it, but he moves his feet well and can weak side shot block with the best of them. I'm starting to get excited for Kristaps because it looks like we are going to be outside the range for Towns and this guy could be a really great pick up for us.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#132 » by Muizha » Sun Feb 22, 2015 8:27 am

Skin wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC_vc7uLVpM[/youtube]

Just saw this. Only 654 views so I don't think many have seen this one. Had some pluses and minuses but I thought it showed more truth than traditional highlight clips that only show good.


Here are some links with similar highlights that show a bit more than the usual highlight reel from Kristaps' latest games:

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... edz_ar_rez

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... nitas_piec

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... ativi_ieme

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/legi ... lietuvos_r
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#133 » by Skin » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:57 pm

Muizha wrote:
Skin wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC_vc7uLVpM[/youtube]

Just saw this. Only 654 views so I don't think many have seen this one. Had some pluses and minuses but I thought it showed more truth than traditional highlight clips that only show good.


Here are some links with similar highlights that show a bit more than the usual highlight reel from Kristaps' latest games:

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... edz_ar_rez

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... nitas_piec

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... ativi_ieme

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/legi ... lietuvos_r

OMG. I just watched the first one so far and I'm more in love with this guy than ever! You can clearly see his imperfections, but he does so many other things so well and makes so many wow plays in one game. He's the perfect fit for this team. We need to be a team that is strong defensively in opposing FG% at the rim and at the 3PT line, so we can force teams to take midrange shots. Offensively, he's CRAZY versatile!
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#134 » by Nyce_1 » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:17 am

Skin wrote:
Muizha wrote:
Skin wrote:[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KC_vc7uLVpM[/youtube]

Just saw this. Only 654 views so I don't think many have seen this one. Had some pluses and minuses but I thought it showed more truth than traditional highlight clips that only show good.


Here are some links with similar highlights that show a bit more than the usual highlight reel from Kristaps' latest games:

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... edz_ar_rez

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... nitas_piec

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/eiro ... ativi_ieme

http://sportacentrs.com/basketbols/legi ... lietuvos_r

OMG. I just watched the first one so far and I'm more in love with this guy than ever! You can clearly see his imperfections, but he does so many other things so well and makes so many wow plays in one game. He's the perfect fit for this team. We need to be a team that is strong defensively in opposing FG% at the rim and at the 3PT line, so we can force teams to take midrange shots. Offensively, he's CRAZY versatile!

nothing spectacular, but I was impressed by his passing. He's no Divac or Webber, but he can make the right passes, when they're there, and that's important. I'm digging him more and more.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#135 » by Nyce_1 » Sat Mar 7, 2015 12:26 am

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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#136 » by p0peye » Sun Mar 8, 2015 9:16 pm

Intrigued at first, not a fan after reading that last piece on DX. Featherly on defending the paint, can't rebound, has a 3pt shot. Well, that's Charmin Frye right there.

I want nastiness on D from our 4 (we sure as hell can't get that from Vučević).
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#137 » by majortom71 » Sun Mar 8, 2015 9:34 pm

looks too frail for me to want him here. Need a badass mofo rim protector.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#138 » by KillMonger » Sun Mar 8, 2015 9:52 pm

majortom71 wrote:looks too frail for me to want him here. Need a badass mofo rim protector.

do we though? i think a swingman might be the bigger need, especially if the Dedmon experiment works out.....It's either Hezonja or Johnson for me at this point. Not naive enough to think we'll crack the top 3
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#139 » by majortom71 » Mon Mar 9, 2015 12:14 am

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majortom71 wrote:looks too frail for me to want him here. Need a badass mofo rim protector.

do we though? i think a swingman might be the bigger need, especially if the Dedmon experiment works out.....It's either Hezonja or Johnson for me at this point. Not naive enough to think we'll crack the top 3

I agree, those are the 2 spots most important imo.
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Re: The case for Kristaps Porzingis 

Post#140 » by CraZyPraiZ » Mon Mar 9, 2015 5:08 pm

This guy is a damn good athlete for his size. Reminds me of AD potential. Then again I'm the fool that wanted to offer D12 to the Pelicans for that #1 draft pick so we could nab AD.

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