D'angelo Russell

DickGrayson · Post #241 » by **DickGrayson** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:27 pm

Marcus wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:How about Rod Strickland as a comp for Russell?

Strick had no jumper.

Great finisher however.

Post #242 » by **Marcus** » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:29 pm

DickGrayson wrote:
Marcus wrote:
Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:How about Rod Strickland as a comp for Russell?

Strick had no jumper.

Great finisher however.

yep and shifty as hell for a guy that only really went one way.

76ciology · Post #243 » by **76ciology** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:21 am

How's D'Angelo Russell's ability to get to the line? Isn't he slow to defend quicker PGs like Cp3, Wall and Westbrook?

Post #244 » by **Marcus** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 3:38 am

76ciology wrote:Isn't he slow to defend quicker PGs like Cp3, Wall and Westbrook?

isn't practically everybody?

76ciology · Post #245 » by **76ciology** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:02 am

Marcus wrote:
76ciology wrote:Isn't he slow to defend quicker PGs like Cp3, Wall and Westbrook?

isn't practically everybody?

Well, let me rephrase it.. will he be a liability defending against them?

djphan · Post #246 » by **djphan** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:31 am

he uses his length well... his footwork isn't the greatest and he's not super quick on defense but he has long arms and he has good instincts if not lacking on the effort level at times...

with guards you just don't know... i mean james harden should be a good defender but he isnt... it doesn't really hurt his value too much though...

Maker_84 · Post #247 » by **Maker_84** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:07 am

Negrodamus wrote:More of the same from Thad Matta and his garbage coaching. Couldn't beat a down (in talent and injuries) Michigan team with one of the best players in the country.

worst coach in college basketball and not close. His teams are a fundamental disaster and never do anything right. All he can do is recruit and nothing else

76ciology · Post #248 » by **76ciology** » Wed Feb 25, 2015 6:46 am

djphan wrote:he uses his length well... his footwork isn't the greatest and he's not super quick on defense but he has long arms and he has good instincts if not lacking on the effort level at times...

with guards you just don't know... i mean james harden should be a good defender but he isnt... it doesn't really hurt his value too much though...

I think Harden is more athletic and longer. Plus, I think quickness is a more important trait guarding PGs than SGs.

crazy_me_87 · Post #249 » by **crazy_me_87** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 6:52 pm

I have to say Russell has won me over.

Did we had a freshman one and Done PG/SG this complete in recent years?
19/5,8/5,5 with 1,6 spg and great Shooting numbers. Whats the last Freshman one and done guy to do that? i cant remember one.

I know he has his weaknesses. He's not really strong and isnt a great athlete.

But still.

He looks like something between Stephen Curry(not as pure a shooter but simillar in strenght and Scoring/Playmaking combination),Brandon Roy(Very Fundamental Game,Clutch,Great All arounder good but not great athlete) with a heavy dose of "cant really compare him".

The cool thing is if he can gain some weight he easily can be a SG hes 6'5 and maybe grow to 6'6. He's not bound to the PG spot.

Post #250 » by **Ruzious** » Thu Feb 26, 2015 7:11 pm

Bucks2585 wrote:Bradley Beal. With slightly better passing, worse defense and rebounding.

Beal has essentially no point guard skills and his attempts to penetrate in the NBA have been awful due to his poor ball-handling. While he's an excellent 3 point shooter, his 2 point jump shot percentage has been bad, and he shoots a lot more long 2's than 3's. Hopefully his shot selection improves - and he improves on his mid-range jumper. Russell has a much quicker release which should allow him to get more good looks on his 3's, and he has all the skills to play the point. I agree that Beal has the better defensive tools, but I don't think Beal has an advantage in rebounding. Russell is an elite prospect - better than Beal was.

SparksFly87 · Post #251 » by **SparksFly87** » Fri Feb 27, 2015 3:16 am

The game recently against Michigan really sold me on Russell . I always thought of him as a brilliant playmaker and shooter. However, he showed me some new dimensions to his game vs Michigan. He had a huge block and he showed ability to finish at the rim with sneaky speed and craftiness with regularity.

boogie-reke · Post #252 » by **boogie-reke** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 6:17 am

Haven't had the chance to see him in a real game, just highlights - but he gives me a sorta Kevin Durant meet Steph Curry vibe (Assuming he's a PG which I think is valid to project him as although again, just seen highlights)

KD for the length and size compared to his position aswell as the narrow frame with that sweet sweet stroke and ability to just bomb it from anywhere, on top of just stuffing the stat-sheet as far as rebounding etc - Steph for the passing and vision - and both(tho moreso Steph) for the ability to just pull up and shoot, even when a guy is just on his grill the whole time, being able to create just enough separation and use his length(Durant) to get a clear shot off.

This kid is extremely impressive. Definitely gonna make time to watch him play a full game.

E-Balla · Post #253 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 11:08 am

boogie-reke wrote:Haven't had the chance to see him in a real game, just highlights - but he gives me a sorta Kevin Durant meet Steph Curry vibe (Assuming he's a PG which I think is valid to project him as although again, just seen highlights)

KD for the length and size compared to his position aswell as the narrow frame with that sweet sweet stroke and ability to just bomb it from anywhere, on top of just stuffing the stat-sheet as far as rebounding etc - Steph for the passing and vision - and both(tho moreso Steph) for the ability to just pull up and shoot, even when a guy is just on his grill the whole time, being able to create just enough separation and use his length(Durant) to get a clear shot off.

This kid is extremely impressive. Definitely gonna make time to watch him play a full game.

Not sure if you are overrating Steph's passing and vision or underrating D'angelo's.

boogie-reke · Post #254 » by **boogie-reke** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:13 pm

Steph's an extremely good passer, where's this coming from? He pretty much can do any pass in the book and seeing plays 3 steps ahead, so I don't know what you're saying here.

As I said I only watched Russel in highlights, but If he's that much better as a passer and has that higher vision then that's pretty insane, although I doubt it personally.

HeartBreakKid · Post #255 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:28 pm

E-Balla wrote:
boogie-reke wrote:Haven't had the chance to see him in a real game, just highlights - but he gives me a sorta Kevin Durant meet Steph Curry vibe (Assuming he's a PG which I think is valid to project him as although again, just seen highlights)

KD for the length and size compared to his position aswell as the narrow frame with that sweet sweet stroke and ability to just bomb it from anywhere, on top of just stuffing the stat-sheet as far as rebounding etc - Steph for the passing and vision - and both(tho moreso Steph) for the ability to just pull up and shoot, even when a guy is just on his grill the whole time, being able to create just enough separation and use his length(Durant) to get a clear shot off.

This kid is extremely impressive. Definitely gonna make time to watch him play a full game.

Not sure if you are overrating Steph's passing and vision or underrating D'angelo's.

Er...what? Stephen Curry is one of the finest passers I've ever seen. He has always been a great passer.

Post #256 » by **Ruzious** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:29 pm

People here have compared him to Harden a lot, but I think Curry is a much better comp for his style of play, skills, physical tools, and even his temperament.

E-Balla · Post #257 » by **E-Balla** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 3:56 pm

HeartBreakKid wrote:
E-Balla wrote:
boogie-reke wrote:Haven't had the chance to see him in a real game, just highlights - but he gives me a sorta Kevin Durant meet Steph Curry vibe (Assuming he's a PG which I think is valid to project him as although again, just seen highlights)

KD for the length and size compared to his position aswell as the narrow frame with that sweet sweet stroke and ability to just bomb it from anywhere, on top of just stuffing the stat-sheet as far as rebounding etc - Steph for the passing and vision - and both(tho moreso Steph) for the ability to just pull up and shoot, even when a guy is just on his grill the whole time, being able to create just enough separation and use his length(Durant) to get a clear shot off.

This kid is extremely impressive. Definitely gonna make time to watch him play a full game.

Not sure if you are overrating Steph's passing and vision or underrating D'angelo's.

Er...what? Stephen Curry is one of the finest passers I've ever seen. He has always been a great passer.

I can name 5 better playing in the league right now off the top of my head. Rondo, Chris Paul, Ricky Rubio, John Wall, and Jeff Teague. I could probably keep going. Curry is great at a lot of things but compared to other starting NBA PGs Curry is around average. If he's one of the best you've ever seen you must've only watched Golden State games over the last 7 years (because if you go back 8 years you would've seen Baron Davis).

reanimator · Post #258 » by **reanimator** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 8:08 pm

Curry is an average passer.....gotcha.

reanimator · Post #259 » by **reanimator** » Wed Mar 4, 2015 8:09 pm

SparksFly87 wrote:The game recently against Michigan really sold me on Russell . I always thought of him as a brilliant playmaker and shooter. However, he showed me some new dimensions to his game vs Michigan. He had a huge block and he showed ability to finish at the rim with sneaky speed and craftiness with regularity.

Really? I thought that game was THE display of his weaknesses.

HeartBreakKid · Post #260 » by **HeartBreakKid** » Thu Mar 5, 2015 2:16 pm

E-Balla wrote:
HeartBreakKid wrote:
E-Balla wrote:Not sure if you are overrating Steph's passing and vision or underrating D'angelo's.

Er...what? Stephen Curry is one of the finest passers I've ever seen. He has always been a great passer.

I can name 5 better playing in the league right now off the top of my head. Rondo, Chris Paul, Ricky Rubio, John Wall, and Jeff Teague. I could probably keep going. Curry is great at a lot of things but compared to other starting NBA PGs Curry is around average. If he's one of the best you've ever seen you must've only watched Golden State games over the last 7 years (because if you go back 8 years you would've seen Baron Davis).

Jeff...Teague? Sorry, can't say much with that. Seeing both those guys play, Curry can make any type of pass, he might not be amongst the best playmakers, but actual passing ability is way above someone like Teague.

I don't really get the Baron Davis comment, I said amongst the finest, didn't say he was the finest. Reading this post, it seems like you think I said best or something. I mean Rubio, Rondo and Paul? They would also be amongst the finest passers I've seen. Putting Jeff Teague in the same breath as them is just bizarre to me, maybe I've been missing something with Teague.