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Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended?

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Should the Bulls penalize Rose for missing practice?

Yes, he should pay a fine
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Yes, suspend him for a game
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#61 » by BungalowBill » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:05 pm

bullslas wrote:He should not be fined for travel issues.

The big issue is the .500 comment. I travel daily and travel the last 3 months gave been brutal.

People just want an excuse to get on Rose.


This. The .500 is a real head shaker that I can't defend, but at the end of the day I don't really care because they have won 5 out of their last 6 and Rose has looked really good in most of those games. I just chalk it up to he will say stupid things, and move on. The fact that others can't and are serious about him getting suspended, is really just sad and bitter.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#62 » by dougthonus » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:20 pm

BungalowBill wrote:This. The .500 is a real head shaker that I can't defend, but at the end of the day I don't really care because they have won 5 out of their last 6 and Rose has looked really good in most of those games. I just chalk it up to he will say stupid things, and move on. The fact that others can't and are serious about him getting suspended, is really just sad and bitter.


I think it's silly to suspend Rose. Whatever the standard fine is should be fine.

He was amazing in the Cleveland game. He was very good against Sacramento. He was abysmal against the Pistons, he was poor against Phoenix. He was okay in the other two.

Rose does seem like overall that he's going two steps forward, one step back through the season, overall making slow progress towards being closer to the player he was with break out games then awful games sandwiched in between.

The good news is that there's no real fear of reinjuring himself anymore. His minute restrictions are also gone. His minutes per game have gone up each month of the season (up until Feb). The bad news is his efficiency has dropped every month of the season too (up until Feb).

Rose has two more months to put it all together, if he continues to slowly progress he might be the player we need him to be by the playoffs, but I'm not optimistic overall.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#63 » by Betta Bulleavit » Sun Feb 22, 2015 6:36 pm

dougthonus wrote:
BungalowBill wrote:This. The .500 is a real head shaker that I can't defend, but at the end of the day I don't really care because they have won 5 out of their last 6 and Rose has looked really good in most of those games. I just chalk it up to he will say stupid things, and move on. The fact that others can't and are serious about him getting suspended, is really just sad and bitter.


I think it's silly to suspend Rose. Whatever the standard fine is should be fine.

He was amazing in the Cleveland game. He was very good against Sacramento. He was abysmal against the Pistons, he was poor against Phoenix. He was okay in the other two.

Rose does seem like overall that he's going two steps forward, one step back through the season, overall making slow progress towards being closer to the player he was with break out games then awful games sandwiched in between.

The good news is that there's no real fear of reinjuring himself anymore. His minute restrictions are also gone. His minutes per game have gone up each month of the season (up until Feb). The bad news is his efficiency has dropped every month of the season too (up until Feb).

Rose has two more months to put it all together, if he continues to slowly progress he might be the player we need him to be by the playoffs, but I'm not optimistic overall.


I'll And1 this post but I must state that I disagree that he was poor against the Suns. I'd put that game in the realm of okay. He scored 16 points on 12 shots (I think...went 5-12) and he didn't take a ton of bad shots. He had a couple of turnovers early on and got into some foul trouble but beyond that, he didn't hurt the team last night. I can live with the foul trouble because that's the one thing that Rose has always been good at steering clear of.

So overall, I'd say that Rose has been okay to good in the majority of the games over the past 3 weeks or so. He's had a few horrible games but like you, I do see some real progression.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#64 » by transplant » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:11 pm

This one's easy. As many have said, there's probably a mandatory fine for an unexcused absence for a practice and Rose should be subject to that sanction. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#65 » by kyrv » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:15 pm

transplant wrote:This one's easy. As many have said, there's probably a mandatory fine for an unexcused absence for a practice and Rose should be subject to that sanction. Nothing more, nothing less.


Noah or someone was talking about this, he or someone was late for practice, set fine, everybody moves on.

I would venture to guess that close to zero players have been suspended in the NBA for missing one(1) practice that was not done out of malice (like blue flu or a hold out).

One of the silliest polls we have had. Like, totally, in forever.

Players are late sometimes, just as we are sometimes late for work. Stuff happens. Normally we don't hear about it. Because it's not a big deal.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#66 » by transplant » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:30 pm

kyrv wrote:
transplant wrote:This one's easy. As many have said, there's probably a mandatory fine for an unexcused absence for a practice and Rose should be subject to that sanction. Nothing more, nothing less.


Noah or someone was talking about this, he or someone was late for practice, set fine, everybody moves on.

I would venture to guess that close to zero players have been suspended in the NBA for missing one(1) practice that was not done out of malice (like blue flu or a hold out).

One of the silliest polls we have had. Like, totally, in forever.

Players are late sometimes, just as we are sometimes late for work. Stuff happens. Normally we don't hear about it. Because it's not a big deal.

Yeah, it's pretty clear that while Rose may not be the Rose of old, he's not an "attitude problem."
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#67 » by RayClayMatthews » Sun Feb 22, 2015 10:00 pm

Betta Bulleavit wrote:
dougthonus wrote:
BungalowBill wrote:This. The .500 is a real head shaker that I can't defend, but at the end of the day I don't really care because they have won 5 out of their last 6 and Rose has looked really good in most of those games. I just chalk it up to he will say stupid things, and move on. The fact that others can't and are serious about him getting suspended, is really just sad and bitter.


I think it's silly to suspend Rose. Whatever the standard fine is should be fine.

He was amazing in the Cleveland game. He was very good against Sacramento. He was abysmal against the Pistons, he was poor against Phoenix. He was okay in the other two.

Rose does seem like overall that he's going two steps forward, one step back through the season, overall making slow progress towards being closer to the player he was with break out games then awful games sandwiched in between.

The good news is that there's no real fear of reinjuring himself anymore. His minute restrictions are also gone. His minutes per game have gone up each month of the season (up until Feb). The bad news is his efficiency has dropped every month of the season too (up until Feb).

Rose has two more months to put it all together, if he continues to slowly progress he might be the player we need him to be by the playoffs, but I'm not optimistic overall.


I'll And1 this post but I must state that I disagree that he was poor against the Suns. I'd put that game in the realm of okay. He scored 16 points on 12 shots (I think...went 5-12) and he didn't take a ton of bad shots. He had a couple of turnovers early on and got into some foul trouble but beyond that, he didn't hurt the team last night. I can live with the foul trouble because that's the one thing that Rose has always been good at steering clear of.

So overall, I'd say that Rose has been okay to good in the majority of the games over the past 3 weeks or so. He's had a few horrible games but like you, I do see some real progression.



yup. whats important is hes having some good games so now, even when he has off shooting, hes pulling defenses in when hes attacking the basket etc. Good Rose having bad nights means honest defenses and wins for the Bulls
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#68 » by bullsnewdynasty » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:12 am

dougthonus wrote:Eh, Derrick Rose doesn't seem to care so much about basketball. At least not so much as someone being paid 20 million dollars a year to do it ought to.

Did he encounter travel issues? Probably. However, he planned his trip in such a way as to cut it really close where that could be a problem. Sure, he's within his rights to do that, but it doesn't seem like the actions of the guy who lives and dies on the basketball court like he'd lead you to believe.

As noted above, Derrick Rose doesn't seem to have an edge anymore. He's lazy on the court more games than not. He's acting completely entitled out there which is surprising, because I'd have expected him to get hungry after not playing for two years, but instead he seems to have gotten ambivalent.


Post is 100% spot on with truth. Rose sees basketball as his job, he doesn't live and breathe it anymore. Pretty sure he has alluded to this after missing seasons and birth of his child. Goes back to the 'being sore in business meetings' comment. His commitment and drive are very questionable, especially when he faces players he believes to be inferior to him.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#69 » by GetBuLLish » Mon Feb 23, 2015 2:20 am

At the very least, Rose should be tarred and feathered in public. I think we can all agree on that.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#70 » by Stratmaster » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:17 pm

unknownnewbie wrote:Unless the Bulls have some real proof that Rose deliberately blew off practice, there's no way they can fine or suspend him. "Travel issues" are going to happen in the winter. Is there any proof that Derrick was in town but simply didn't want to go to practice?


From what I understand, he scheduled his flight back the same day of practice. So he was planning on flying into town and, I assume, heading directly to practice. If that was due to a family situation or something similar, you can accept that. If it is due to wanting to spend one more night partying on the beach, not so much. That wouldn't be accepted by most employers, and most of their employees are taking what would be maybe a once a year vacation. This guy can afford to get to the beach anytime he doesn't have a work commitment, and has all kinds of flexibility with his time ion the off-season.

He apologized, said he was wrong, that he is supposed to be a leader etc. So he said the right things and I am fine with that. i am more worried about his "we're over .500" comment which seems to be consistent with his demeanor this season. A demeanor that, whether it is true or whether he realizes it, screams "I don't give a #$%^" and/or "I'm above the rules everyone else follows".
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#71 » by jumpstart » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:34 pm

All the time he spent injured allowed him to really enjoy an what an early "retirement" feels like and enjoy his $$. I'm sure he still wants to win a title. But I'm sure he's began to enjoy the finer thjngs in life now that he's gotten older. Dude prob still works his butt off.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#72 » by bullsRlife » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:33 pm

I've noticed that Rose has a very very defensive personality, and often snooty. Its starting to bug me, and its getting annoying. The whole aloof thing is getting played out.

Still love the guy as a player, and will always root for him, but his personality just irks me a lot this year.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#73 » by bullsRlife » Mon Feb 23, 2015 10:53 pm

dougthonus wrote:Eh, Derrick Rose doesn't seem to care so much about basketball. At least not so much as someone being paid 20 million dollars a year to do it ought to.

Did he encounter travel issues? Probably. However, he planned his trip in such a way as to cut it really close where that could be a problem. Sure, he's within his rights to do that, but it doesn't seem like the actions of the guy who lives and dies on the basketball court like he'd lead you to believe.

As noted above, Derrick Rose doesn't seem to have an edge anymore. He's lazy on the court more games than not. He's acting completely entitled out there which is surprising, because I'd have expected him to get hungry after not playing for two years, but instead he seems to have gotten ambivalent.


I honestly never thought Id ever think he's lost his edge, or that his hunger wasn't the same, but man, I'm starting to see a little bit of that this year.

We could be wrong, and he's just dying to go ALL OUT in the playoffs, but when you get paid like Rose does, there's absolutely no room to half ass it on a consistent basis.

Yes, injuries are a definite factor, and he's already had a few scares this season, but I'd rather have the old warrior mentality Rose back, even though its somewhat understandable that he's being careful with his body.

So torn on the guy this year. Its a love/hate thing with me, and it has nothing to do with his stats or production on the court.
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Re: Rose Misses Practice - Should He Get Suspended? 

Post#74 » by BrooklynBulls » Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:45 am

I'm afraid Rose left some skills back on that island he visited. Oh no. I guess this means...
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