Game Thread: Phoenix (29-27) vs Boston (20-33)

Blackification · Post #381 » by **Blackification** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:39 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Jeff is not a good coach. Bledsoe struggles in the half court offense because we have no half court offense.

He struggles in any offense because nothing he has done in the last two years shows that he can actually run an offense

SunsFanSSOL · Post #382 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:41 am

Blackification wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Jeff is not a good coach. Bledsoe struggles in the half court offense because we have no half court offense.

He struggles in any offense because nothing he has done in the last two years shows that he can actually run an offense

He's had 3 games, not 2 years.

Revived · Post #383 » by **Revived** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:41 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:Jeff is not a good coach. Bledsoe struggles in the half court offense because we have no half court offense.

This could also be the reason.

Blackification · Post #384 » by **Blackification** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:41 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:
Blackification wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Jeff is not a good coach. Bledsoe struggles in the half court offense because we have no half court offense.

He struggles in any offense because nothing he has done in the last two years shows that he can actually run an offense

He's had 3 games, not 2 years.

He has been the main ball handler all of this year and he had it when he played last year.

SunsFanSSOL · Post #385 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:42 am

SF88 wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Jeff is not a good coach. Bledsoe struggles in the half court offense because we have no half court offense.

This could also be the reason.

It definitely is. No plays = Bledsoe iso/Markieff iso/Players stagnant in corners.

azsportsman · Post #386 » by **azsportsman** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:42 am

The cohesion isn't there and if we had this roster starting beginning of last off season then it would be Jeff's fault. But its tough to "coach on the go"

We would have won this game easily if we had this roster all season.

SunsFanSSOL · Post #387 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:43 am

We'd been a top 6 team in the West if we had Budenholzer.

Marz11 · Post #388 » by **Marz11** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:45 am

Calvin Klein wrote:Please let's get over the Dragic thing. It doesn't help.

What doesn't help is management not taking care of our best player, then spinning afterwards saying that we are now better without him. Clearly we are not.

McD made some good moves in the past but made 5 mistakes this season.

-Not signing Frye or replacing him well enough.

-Signing Tolliver, now gone.

-Signing IT, now gone.

-Made moves that led to Dragic being an off the ball player playing at half his capacity. Now gone for pretty much nothing.

-Trading away the Lakers pick.

Knight is ok, but for IT, Dragic, Ennis, Plumlee and Lakers pick? :crazy:

Then there is Hornacek who has ignored the young guys all season. Who would have thought Archie is better than Green? Or that Warren can play. A waste.

sunsfever68 · Post #389 » by **sunsfever68** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:45 am

JMac1 wrote:
In Len We Trust wrote:A Dragic-Knight backcourt would have been pretty awesome

Yup, we traded the wrong PG.

Hey Kerssed,

Bledsoe is an over paid TO machine. Knight is under control and composed, he is/will be a much better player than Bled, that is why the trade Bledsoe talk.

Yep. Nailed it. Maybe Bledsoe figures it out we need to get Nash here to mentor him or something but Hornacek doesn't help Bledsoe much by not calling plays not having set offenses and rotations it literally looks like it's just a free for all

SunsFanSSOL · Post #390 » by **SunsFanSSOL** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:45 am

Jeff's "system" only works with a stretch 4, allowing the guards room to drive. Not surprising he requested we trade for a stretch 4.

In Len We Trust · Post #391 » by **In Len We Trust** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:46 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:We'd been a top 6 team in the West if we had Budenholzer.

If you look at the fact that we have lost 16(!!!!!!!!!) games by 5 points to less, as crazy as it may sound, you could argue that we could have about 10 more wins, good enough for 3rd in the West.

azsportsman · Post #392 » by **azsportsman** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:47 am

Marz11 wrote:
Calvin Klein wrote:Please let's get over the Dragic thing. It doesn't help.

What doesn't help is management not taking care of our best player, then spinning afterwards saying that we are now better without him. Clearly we are not.

McD made some good moves in the past but made 5 mistakes this season.

Not signing Frye or replacing him well enough.

Signing Tolliver, now gone.

Signing IT, now gone.

Made moves that led to Dragic being an off the ball player playing at half his capacity. Now gone for pretty much nothing.

Trading away the Lakers pick.

Knight is ok, but for IT, Dragic, Ennis, Plumlee and Lakers pick?

Dang. Never thought of it this way. McD got schooled this year.

TeamTragic · Post #393 » by **TeamTragic** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:47 am

Just wanted to chime in real quick. We are obviously tanking and I completely understand why we are doing it. We are not making the playoffs with this team. Do you really want the 14th pick in the draft?

We are actually experimenting with our lineup which will determine who is going to get traded. Wright had a great game tonight and Knight is just getting in the groove. Bledsoe is turnover prone because we need an actual point guard handling the ball.

We have ZERO rebounding and ZERO defensive skills. Tucker/Green/Marcus Morris need to get traded ASAP and Hornacek is not a good coach. These are all things that we already knew.

In Len We Trust · Post #394 » by **In Len We Trust** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:47 am

If we want a stretch 4 then we should draft Kyle Wiltjer out of Gonzaga in the 2nd round.

letsgosuns · Post #395 » by **letsgosuns** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:48 am

When Isaiah Thomas hit that shot and stared at the Suns bench, it reminded me of the first time the Suns played Stephon Marbury after he was traded to the Knicks. The Suns were playing in NY and Amare was not back yet and Marbury at one point in the game was hitting three pointers several feet behind the three point line. He was glaring at the Suns bench. Same type of thing that Thomas did tonight. I said all season Thomas reminded me of Marbury. All he cares about is himself. Has no clue how to play team basketball. He can gloat all he wants. He is an egomaniac loser. I could not be happier about the fact that he is off the Suns.

Post #396 » by **bwgood77** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:49 am

SunsFanSSOL wrote:
SF88 wrote:
SunsFanSSOL wrote:Jeff is not a good coach. Bledsoe struggles in the half court offense because we have no half court offense.

This could also be the reason.

It definitely is. No plays = Bledsoe iso/Markieff iso/Players stagnant in corners.

What do you think he is writing on that whiteboard during timeouts? Just..."Not very good play guys. Score more!"

toucansma · Post #397 » by **toucansma** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:50 am

Calvin Klein wrote:Please let's get over the Dragic thing. It doesn't help.

Sorry still in the first few steps of the grief stages ...

MilotheSlayer · Post #398 » by **MilotheSlayer** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:51 am

So I missed the game, see Len had a monster game. We have too many turnovers which is expected with a new team. Green didn't play? Poor shooting from the guards. What am i missing that the box score didn't tell?

collidingNeurons · Post #399 » by **collidingNeurons** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:52 am

Midnight_Suns wrote:Len, Len, Len. Goodwin, Goodwin, Goodwin. Warren, Warren, Warren. La la la don't care about this season any more.

which makes trading the LA pick even worse, Knight is not difference maker, he is a more passive version of Dragic, that trade looks worse and worse to me after the three games since

collidingNeurons · Post #400 » by **collidingNeurons** » Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:53 am

SF88 wrote:
In Len We Trust wrote:Bledsoe had the worst 21 point, 10 assist, 7 rebound game of all time

He stat pads at the end of games so damn much, only reason why his "clutch" numbers look good.

that was pretty obvious the night he mugged Goran for a meaningless rebound to get his triple double